Joy Reid, Matthew Dowd: January 6 Was WORSE Than 9/11, GOP Must Be Crushed

July 6th, 2021 11:46 PM

Tuesday night on MSNBC’s The ReidOut, host Joy Reid and longtime faux Republican Matthew Dowd engaged in some corrosive, offensive, and repulsive rhetoric as they insisted that the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was worse than the radical Islamic terror attacks on September 11, 2001 and that an insufficient number of Democrats share the same concern.

And in the segment beforehand, Reid showed off her anti-Christian bigotry by mocking Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) for “tweet[ing] Bible verses every day for random reasons” as he, according to Reid, supports white supremacists.

 

 

Reid didn’t waste anytime in the Dowd block, telling him right off the bat that “it feels like things have actually got worse since January 6th, honestly,” which Dowd said he “absolutely agree[s] with.”

Dowd then explained things were worse “because there's been no accountability, it's given permission to do more...crazy things” with the Republican Party further destroying the country.

His arrogance grew exponentially as Dowd boasted that, upon visiting Lincoln’s birthplace, he realized the 16th President’s prediction that America would destroy itself from within was coming to fruition because of right-of-center Americans.

It was here that Dowd trotted out his 9/11 comparison, first asking rhetorically what would the response had been if the Bush administration “had done nothing” after al-Qaeda attacked America before saying the murder of 3,000 people was water under the bridge compared to the Capitol riot:

[T]o me, though there was less loss of life on January 6th, January 6th was worse than 9/11 because it's continued to rip our country apart and give permission for people to pursue autocratic means and so I think we're in a much worse place than we’ve been and, as I’ve said, I think to you before, I think we're in the most perilous point in time since 1861 in the advent of the Civil War. 

Of course, Reid agreed and illustrated the level of fear porn that dominates CNN and MSNBC as she complained fellow left-of-center people are insufficiently crippled in fear of the other side of the aisle (click “expand”):

I do too. I do too. And it — it frightens me. You know what scares me most, Matthew, is that I'm not sure that most Democrats — at least most elected Democrats in Washington — agree with us or are as afraid as we are of — you know, I said yesterday, talking with Malcolm Nance and Susan del Percio, who’s a Republican strategist, if you break down what this looks like to me, it looks directly like fascism. It looks like Mussolini’s Italy, the brown shirts, the — the violence against our Capitol, the attempts to overthrow the government, the centering of the white citizens that happen to be the top citizens or else the country dies and to see a Republican party either because of cowardice or because they agree with it, say we're going to go with that, we’re going to do with that. If that's what it takes for us to have power, then fine, we'll take fascism. I don't know what you do with that when one party decides that and you’ve only really got two.

Dowd’s response reminded viewers of how authoritarian and fascist many leftists and so-called “principled” politicos are as he argued that right-leaning Americans should be bludgeoned into obscurity: “[T]he only thing you can do is rid the country of that political party and completely rid it of it and make it suffer devastating losses in a series of elections.”

Somewhere, Kurt Bardella must have been pleased with this 9/11 comparison.

Rewind a few minutes and we had more of the poisonous, punishment-free rhetoric we’ve come to expect from Reid as she tag-teamed with one of Rubio’s possible 2022 Senate opponents to mock his public professing of his faith in Jesus Christ.

During a segment about the six-month anniversary of the attack on the Capitol, Reid told Congresswoman Val Demings (D-FL) that the incumbent Senator was someone “who tweets Bible verses every day for random reasons” and refused to denounce “white supremacists.” 

 

 

Demings agreed, saying “Rubio can send out all of the Bible verses that he wants to,” because people should examine “not what he says but what he does” and realize that he’s never, “said one word to denounce white supremacists since he's been in office.”

A quick search of Rubio’s government and personal Twitter accounts and Senate website will show he’s condemned anti-LGBTQ violence (regarding the Pulse nightclub attack), anti-Semitic violence, Charlottesville, the events of January 6, hate crimes against minorities, racial discrimination and slavery, and white supremacy

But seeing as how MSNBC cares more about gaslighting and spewing vitriol than facts, it’s doubtful they’d be interested in any of that.

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To see the relevant MSNBC transcript from July 6, click “expand.”

MSNBC’s The ReidOut
July 6, 2021
7:04 p.m. Eastern

JOY REID: And I do have a question for you, sort of on a law enforcement kinda theme, but — does — does it surprise — and, you know, in Florida, it's a small world, as you and I both know. But people like Marco Rubio — who you're running against in the United States Senate — who tweets Bible verses every day for random reasons, these people aren't saying to themselves, “I don't want to be associated with white supremacists.” Where are [sic] the Speaker? Where is Marco Rubio? Where are all of these people constantly lecturing us about what history we're allowed to learn. Why aren't they saying anything? 

CONGRESSWOMAN VAL DEMINGS (D-FL): Well, you know, Joy, a long time ago someone told me I’d rather see a sermon any day than to hear one. So Rubio can send out all of the bible verses that he wants to. We're looking at not what he says but what he does. We're talking about a man, as you've indicated, thank you for bringing up, who has not said one word to denounce white supremacists since he's been in office, by the way. We're talking about a man who voted against an independent commission that would investigate the insurrection that occurred on 1/6. And so, again, we know them by the fruits that they bear. Rubio has not delivered. And as you know, that is exactly why I am running. Florida deserves better.

(....)

7:08 p.m. Eastern

REID: Matthew, it — it feels like things have actually got worse since January 6th, honestly. You know, I remember reading the reports about when Trump began his run for office, he inspired an uptick in white nationalism and in violent white nationalism. The chatter was this guy is our guy. He's gone now. But even without his presence daily on social media, we now have members of Congress openly palling around with people who marched in Charlottesville, Nick Fuentes, who openly say we’ve got to return the United States to being a white, Christian country, who just say that openly and congresspeople — they’re not even embarrassed to be around them. What in the world is going on? 

MATTHEW DOWD: Well, I absolutely agree with you, Joy, that I think it is much worse than on January 6th. It’s much worse than it was in November. It’s much worse after January 6th and part of the problem is because — because there's been no accountability, it's given permission to do more of this. And not only has it given permission to just average people who might do crazy things, it's allowed the Republicans just to continue this big lie that they've pushed across. I was — yesterday, I was in Kentucky. I decided to go to Lincoln's birthplace and his boyhood home. And I was reflecting about it because one of the things Lincoln said was, America will never be destroyed from outside, America will destroy itself. And I think that's what I fear about right now. And one of the things if you think about this, what would happen if, after 9/11, we had done nothing? We had done nothing.

REID: Right. 

DOWD: Think about that. If we had done nothing after 9/11, and to me, though there was less loss of life on January 6th, January 6th was worse than 9/11 because it's continued to rip our country apart and give permission for people to pursue autocratic means and so I think we're in a much worse place than we’ve been and, as I’ve said, I think to you before, I think we're in the most perilous point in time since 1861 in the advent of the Civil War. 

REID: I do too. I do too. And it — it frightens me. You know what scares me most, Matthew, is that I'm not sure that most Democrats — at least most elected Democrats in Washington — agree with us or are as afraid as we are of — you know, I said yesterday, talking with Malcolm Nance and Susan del Percio, who’s a Republican strategist, if you break down what this looks like to me, it looks directly like fascism. It looks like Mussolini’s Italy, the brown shirts, the — the violence against our Capitol, the attempts to overthrow the government, the centering of the white citizens that happen to be the top citizens or else the country dies and to see a Republican party either because of cowardice or because they agree with it, say we're going to go with that, we’re going to do with that. If that's what it takes for us to have power, then fine, we'll take fascism. I don't know what you do with that when one party decides that and you’ve only really got two.

DOWD: Well, the only thing you can do is rid the country of that political party and completely rid it of it and make it suffer devastating losses in a series of elections. To me, there's no moral argument we can make against Republicans who’ve decided that moral —

REID: Yeah.

DOWD: — positioning doesn't matter anymore. Well, I was thinking of this. You know, J.D. Vance, the charlatan who’s running for U.S. Senate in Ohio who’s completely created — has created fictions and says whatever, he said something I actually agree with at his announcement and he said the Republican establishment doesn't care about its voters and thinks their voters are stupid and thinks their voters are bigots. What he should have said is, “I don't care,” like all of the other Republicans, what you have in this country right now — and you know this — if you're in a relationship and somebody constantly lies to you — 

REID: Yeah.

DOWD: — somebody who does all kinds of things that shows they don't care about them, they think you're a yahoo, right? 

REID: Yeah, yeah. 

DOWD: And that’s what they — the Republicans think their base is bigoted and their base is stupid and that's why they keep doing what they're doing.

REID: Yeah, yeah.