It’s really clear that some of the liberal hosts of The View don’t even listen to themselves when they talk. If they did, they’d realize how insane it is to suggest that they are “all pro-life.” On Tuesday, even the presence of Republican guest co-host Carly Fiorina and absence of Joy Behar could not curb the other co-hosts’ outlandish and false claims regarding abortion and the pro-life movement.
The deeply pro-abortion Whoopi Goldberg lectured Fiorina: “We're all pro-life.” She then opened the segment by commenting on efforts by legislators in both Texas and Mississippi to limit abortions in their state:
I also am a fan of life. I don't think anyone who has an abortion is not a fan of life…the abortion laws do not force any woman to get an abortion. No one is forced to get an abortion. It is a difficult thing to decide to do…I like the idea that if my family or if I need it, it is there for me.
Goldberg has no problem with abortions being legal, despite being a “fan of life,” since no one is forced to have an abortion. One has to wonder if this logic applies to other methods of ending life as well.
Fiorina, former Republican presidential candidate and businesswoman, joined the show as a guest co-host, presumably as a moderating voice. However, she spent most of the segment attempting to find common ground with her ideological opponents, agreeing with Goldberg despite being “the only pro-life person at this table.”
Goldberg immediately pushed back, saying, “we’re all pro-life at this table,” and Sunny Hostin added, “I would fall under the rubric of what's traditionally called pro-life.”
Both seem to forget not only Goldberg’s monologue two minutes earlier, but also the countless examples of pro-abortion rhetoric displayed on The View. Less than two weeks ago, on September 10th, guest America Ferrera claimed that pro-life laws are racist, while the show hosts sat back and agreed. On September 7th, Joy Behar called Republicans “the Taliban in America” and said pro-life legislation is “hatred of women.”
With such clearly pro-abortion statements, it’s not shocking that the liberal hosts of The View have no idea what being pro-life means. However, they’re not just out of touch with the Republican viewpoint; they’re also supposedly ignorant of the real Democrat abortion agenda.
“The Republican Party, the Texas law is extreme, but the Democrat Party's policy position is abortion at any time in a pregnancy for any reason right up until the bitter end. That is also extreme,” said Fiorina. Co-host Sara Haines expressed shock: “I don’t know anyone who thinks that.”
Hostin tried to deflect the conversation and cry hypocrisy, bringing up vaccine hesitancy among Republicans. When that failed to stick, she made up a statistic, saying “I don’t have the numbers, but Republicans also are largely in favor of abortion when it comes to the first trimester.” The real number, according to Gallup polls, is 42% of Republicans who support the legalization of abortion in the first trimester.
The four co-hosts wrapped up the segment by pivoting to the legal precedent of Roe v. Wade, expressing hope that the Supreme Court will hold true to that precedent and continue to enable women to get abortions legally.
Not pro-life, by any stretch of the imagination.
This segment on The View was sponsored in part by Hershey.
Below is a full transcript of the segment. Click expand to read.
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: You know, we were talking about a woman's right to choose, you know, it's a conversation that we have and probably are going to continue to have as long as we're talking about, you know, choice and such, and I just wanted to say, you know, I also am a fan of life. I don't think anyone who has an abortion is not a fan of life, but people find themselves in different situations, and what I find hard about all of this, because a woman's right to choose is back on trial, as a Texas doctor is being sued for defying the state’s law banning abortion after six weeks. The Supreme Court is preparing to hear a case about a similar law in Mississippi, and it's one of those things that I always feel like I have to say. The law, the abortion laws do not force any woman to get an abortion. No one is forced to get an abortion. It is a difficult thing to decide to do.
No one does it, like, they're going for a party. That was all a lie when they were saying women are getting it, you know, all the time. That was not quite true, but because no one says you have to get it, I like the idea that if my family or if I need it, it is there for me. What's hard for me is when they say, well, I don't like it and you can't do it. You are telling me that I'm not smart enough to decide with my child or if my child has been someone who's had incest forced upon her or there have been other — rape. You're telling me I don't have the right to make this decision with my family personally. And I don't understand why we are — why we're back to this. So does this mean in your opinions that conservatives have found a way to overturn Roe V. Wade on a technicality?
CARLY FIORINA: So let me just say as perhaps the only pro-life person at this table, I agree with everything that you just said.
GOLDBERG: We're all pro-life, everybody. Yeah.
SUNNY HOSTIN: I’m Catholic. So I would fall under the rubric of what's traditionally called pro-life.
FIORINA: Well, I have come to believe that the best way to save unborn life is to change hearts and minds, and I agree with you absolutely. Any woman who faces this choice faces a terrible choice, and she deserves our support and our - empathy, and she needs to be aware of all the choices.
FIORINA: The Texas law is extreme in so many instances, but particularly in that it deputizes citizens. What a terrible idea.
GOLDBERG: Yeah. Yeah.
FIORINA: This Texas doctor is now being sued by some guy in, I don't know, Indiana and another one in Arkansas who's been accused of tax fraud, really? This is a bad idea all over.
GOLDBERG: Yeah. Yeah.
FIORINA: But here's what I wish. I wish that we could come to a common sense solution that a diverse democracy could agree with. I want to read you some polls. 61 percent of Americans say abortion should be legal in the first trimester. 65 percent say abortion should be illegal in the second trimester. 80 percent say it should be illegal in the third trimester. The Republican Party, the Texas law is extreme, but the Democrat Party's policy position is abortion at any time in a pregnancy for any reason right up until the bitter end. That is also extreme. The American people –
SARA HAINES: I don’t know anyone that thinks that. Are there really —
FIORINA: That is the Democrat policy position. Here’s the reality.
HOSTIN: Well, the policy position is choice at all times.
FIORINA: The policy position is choice at all times right up until the end. The American people know what the right answer is here -
HOSTIN: And the Republican position is choice at no time except when you don't want to take a vaccine that helps everyone in the country.
FIORINA: I agree with that too. I agree with that. I agree with you. Here's my point. Having gotten involved in politics, the dirty little secret I think is this. Politicians on neither side want this issue resolved. It is a great issue to bring voters out, to have people outraged, to raise money. They don't want it resolved, and yet the majority of American people know what a common sense answer is that we could all live with. Why can't we get there after all this time?
HOSTIN: And I don’t have the numbers, but Republicans also are largely in favor of abortion when it comes to the first trimester.
FIORINA: 61 percent of Americans means some Republicans are in favor.
HOSTIN: It's definitely a majority and I'll get those stats, but I will say this, the Texas law is not a true loophole. You can't have people from other states suing someone in another state. That's unconstitutional.
FIORINA: I dropped out of law school, but I think that's called lack of standing.
HOSTIN: It's lack of standing. You remember that.
FIORINA: Yes, I remember lack of standing.
HOSTIN: It's lack of standing. That's not going to happen. What I am very concerned about is the Supreme Court case that's coming up.
HOSTIN: It's going to be heard in December. I think it's coming out of Mississippi.
HOSTIN: Roe V. Wade certainly is still the law of the land until this case though, and it's a 6-3 conservative majority now, and I think we really have to start looking towards that if we're concerned about women's rights.
HAINES: But don’t you think precedent will rule? Lawyers, like, when you look at how they interpret the constitution, that does divide whether they fall conservative or liberal, but when it comes down to it, isn't precedent so sacred among legal minds that when you saw these people questioned in hearings and they talked about when push comes to shove regardless of their personal belief that that precedent with every passing day holds. That's pretty sacred. Isn't it called stare decisis or something?
FIORINA: Wow, that was impressive. Stare decisis.
HAINES: I married a lawyer.
HOSTIN: Stare decisis. It is precedent, but of course it's federal precedent. It's a Supreme Court precedent.
HAINES: Do you think, If it goes to them, that they would -- cause I heard predictions and this is all hearsay, that some of those conservative appointees value that precedent over their personal belief. Do you think that's --
HOSTIN: Well, they should.
GOLDBERG: That's what the Supreme Court is supposed to do. Here's the bottom line. If a woman decides that this is what's best for her, she's not going to let anybody stop her. That's why we did this. That's why it's there, because we got tired of seeing women using hangers and going to butchers and doing all kinds of - that's why it's there.
FIORINA: Wasn’t Clinton – safe, legal and rare?
GOLDBERG: That’s it. We're going to be right back. We're going to be right back.