Ghoulishly keeping with the liberal media’s new enthusiasm of bashing Catholics and hating on those who pray following a transgender terrorist’s attack on a Catholic church and killing children during mass, CNN co-host Pamela Brown sat down with anti-gun rights extremist David Hogg on Thursday’s The Situation Room and cheered the notion that “thoughts and prayers rhetoric” was on the decline.
Looking for possible avenues to push for any form of gun control, Brown cited one Fox News host who seemed to be amenable to gun grab policies. She used this to suggest that there was a major shift that could be exploited:
I want to talk about what we are actually hearing from politicians on both sides of the aisle, not just Democrats, but even conservatives. You had the conservative Fox News host, Trey Gowdy suggesting this morning that it may be time for a national reckoning on guns, that this is, you know, not the sort of thoughts and prayer's rhetoric that we're used to hearing after these tragedies.
“So, are you seeing a turn in terms of how politicians on both sides of the aisle are now responding to school shootings like this?” she asked Hogg.
“Yeah, I mean, I think there has been some of a turn on it,” Hogg touted. “As I mentioned, there were you know, I think it was ten Republican senators that voted for the Safer Communities Act after Uvalde. First federal gun law in 30 years, but it's still not enough, obviously, as given the fact that I'm speaking on this show right now, after this happened.”
Hogg, who flopped as a member of the Democratic Party apparatus as vice chair, had a blue print for those politicians who wanted to strip guns rights away from law-abiding Americans:
I think what Democrats and Republicans need to do is they need to go and meet behind closed doors and talk with each other and say, ‘all right, what can we actually do here that we can both politically survive with but actually does something about this?’ Even if it's not super huge, even if it's not super, you know, sexy and out there for either political side and seen as a win for either of them. What can we do to save lives? Even if it's just one or two or three or 100 lives? That's still worth it because the answer here, regardless of whether or not you completely agree with me on this issue or you completely disagree with me, I think we all can agree that we have to do something. And the answer cannot be inaction as it has been for decades.
Prior to cheering on the supposed decline of prayer, Brown spoke with the police chief of Minneapolis and scoffed at FBI Director Kash Patel for saying they were investigating the incident as a biologically male transgender shooter committing an act of domestic terrorism:
I want to go to what we heard from the FBI Director Kash Patel, who wrote that his agency is investigating the shooting “as an act of domestic terrorism and hate crime targeting Catholics.” Have you learned anything in the hours since that press conference that you held shortly after the shooting indicating that this could be a hate crime, specifically targeting Catholics?
Chief Brian O’Hara started off by saying the right thing, noting that “there's absolutely no question that the shooter intended to terrorize those children, those parishioners, the members of the school staff that were in that building, as well as their parents and the larger community here.”
But he soon pivoted to ridiculously claiming “we have not been able to narrow it down to one specific motivation.”
On the shooter’s equipment were scrawled hate toward numerous groups, including Christians, Jews, and Republicans (to name a few). O’Hara seemed to be suggesting that since the shooter only targeted one of the groups he hated, it couldn’t be classified as a hate crime.
O’Hara also said it was “unfortunate” that “the public is expecting answers” because “the reality is this is completely senseless and just an unthinkable tragedy.”
The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read:
CNN’s The Situation Room
August 28, 2025
10:36:13 a.m. Eastern(…)
PAMELA BROWN: Breaking news this morning, chilling details about the 23-year-old shooter who fired on a Minneapolis catholic school yesterday killing two children and wounding 14 others and three elderly parishioners. We're learning more now about the bravery of bystanders and law enforcement at the scene.
And joining us now is the chief of the Minneapolis police department, Brian O'Hara. Chief, thank you for taking the time to speak with us. I know how busy you are. I want to go to what we heard from the FBI Director Kash Patel, who wrote that his agency is investigating the shooting “as an act of domestic terrorism and hate crime targeting Catholics.” Have you learned anything in the hours since that press conference that you held shortly after the shooting indicating that this could be a hate crime, specifically targeting Catholics?
CHIEF BRIAN O’HARA (Minneapolis Police Department): Good morning. Will I can tell you there's absolutely no question that the shooter intended to terrorize those children, those parishioners, the members of the school staff that were in that building, as well as their parents and the larger community here.
What we have found are really just hundreds of pieces of evidence that we continue to go through with our investigators, with the help of the FBI and all of our law enforcement partners. What we have found so far unfortunately, is what has been all too common in this country, is sort of a classic pathway to violence for an active shooter or a mass shooter.
This is an individual that harbored a whole lot of hate towards many people and many groups of people. And clearly intended to commit an act of violence with as much carnage and trauma as possible for the purpose of their own personal notoriety.
So, that is what we have found so far. There's obviously other writings and pieces of evidence that our investigators continue to go through with the help of the FBI. And we were open to every possibility in terms of what a potential motive may be. We're trying to see if there was some sort of triggering event that may have caused him to commit this act but as of this time, we have not been able to narrow it down to one specific motivation, but our investigators are continuing on that path.
But I think what is unfortunate is the public is expecting answers and in some way expecting us to try and make sense of this and the reality is this is completely senseless and just an unthinkable tragedy.
(…)
11:22:58 a.m. Eastern
BROWN: I want to talk about what we are actually hearing from politicians on both sides of the aisle, not just Democrats, but even conservatives. You had the conservative Fox News host, Trey Gowdy suggesting this morning that it may be time for a national reckoning on guns, that this is, you know, not the sort of thoughts and prayer's rhetoric that we're used to hearing after these tragedies. So, are you seeing a turn in terms of how politicians on both sides of the aisle are now responding to school shootings like this?
DAVID HOGG: Yeah, I mean, I think there has been some of a turn on it. As I mentioned, there were you know, I think it was ten Republican senators that voted for the Safer Communities Act after Uvalde. First federal gun law in 30 years, but it's still not enough, obviously, as given the fact that I'm speaking on this show right now, after this happened.
I think what Democrats and Republicans need to do is they need to go and meet behind closed doors and talk with each other and say, ‘all right, what can we actually do here that we can both politically survive with but actually does something about this?’ Even if it's not super huge, even if it's not super, you know, sexy and out there for either political side and seen as a win for either of them. What can we do to save lives? Even if it's just one or two or three or 100 lives? That's still worth it because the answer here, regardless of whether or not you completely agree with me on this issue or you completely disagree with me, I think we all can agree that we have to do something. And the answer cannot be inaction as it has been for decades.
(…)
