The liberal victim mentality will lead to its sycophants making insane comments in order to justify hating America. That truth was on full display during Wednesday’s edition of The View as moderator Whoopi Goldberg and co-host Sunny Hostin proclaimed it was worse to be black in American than live under the oppressive theocratic regime of the ayatollahs in Iran. Hostin also insisted that Israel needed to use “diplomacy” when dealing with an enemy threatening to nuke them, not bombs.
What triggered Goldberg’s rage was right-leaning co-host Alyssa Farah Griffin pointing out the fact that people in the Iran were actually being oppressed by their government. “But let's remember too, the Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings. They don't adhere to basic human rights,” Farah Griffin accurately noted, to which Goldberg demand she not bring that up because the U.S. was worse:
GOLDBERG: Let's not do that because if we start with that, we've been known in this country to tie gay folks to the car!
[Applause]
FARAH GRIFFIN: I’m sorry, but where Iranian regime is today is nothing compared is nothing compared to the Unites States!
GOLDBERG: Listen, I'm sorry! They used to just keep hanging black people!
FARAH GRIFFIN: It’s not even the same! I couldn’t step foot wearing this outfit in Iran right now.
After a fracas back and forth, Farah proclaimed the fact that it was better to live in America today than to live in Iran. “Not if you’re black,” Goldberg and Hostin echoed each other:
FARAH GRIFFIN: Okay. I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is in Iran.
GOLDBERG: Not if you're black!
HOSTIN: Not for everybody!
GOLDBERG: Not if you're black!
FARAH GRIFFIN: Guys, don't compare us to Tehran. No one at this table should go to Tehran.
Farah Griffin went on tell them at “it’s important we remember that there are places much darker than this country.” Goldberg shouted her down by sneering: “Not everybody feels that way! Not everybody feels that way!”
Earlier in the show, Hostin was upset “that Israel preemptively struck Iran” and thought it was “very problematic.”
She was almost immediately interrupted by co-host Joy Behar who confronted her on how Iran had been threatening to wipe Israel off the map for decades. Still Hostin pushed the lie that it was “illegal” for a country to preemptively strike another in all scenarios (Click “expand”):
BEHAR: Because I think that the Iranians and the Israelis believe Iran would like to completely destroy Israel.
FARAH GRIFFIN: They call for the destruction.
BEHAR: Iran is an actual existential threat to Israel.
HOSTIN: But that does not –
HAINES: They also fund Hamas.
BEHAR: So, they’re saying, if you're trying to kill us, we want a nuclear bomb – we don't want you to have a nuke.
HOSTIN: That is fine, but you have to do that legally. And under international criminal law, you are not supposed to do this.
FARAH GRIFFIN: Well, Iran’s launched tons of missiles against Israel in the last few years.
BEHAR: I'm not sure Iran does things legally.
HOSTIN: But under international law, Israel should not be preemptively striking another country.
Hostin took on a more ludicrous position when she rabidly insisted that a country’s only recourse when staring down the barrel of a nuke being pointed at it was “diplomacy” because “You can’t just bomb a country”:
BEHAR: Well, think of it this way. What if Canada was saying they were going to build a nuclear bomb and threatened to kill us all, what would we do?
HOSTIN: You have to do it diplomatically, Joy! You can’t just bomb a country!
BEHAR: Really? What's diplomatic of having a nuclear bomb and threatening another country?
Goldberg backed Hostin up, declaring: “the reason there is diplomacy is so people aren't bombing each other willy nilly.”
Co-host Sara Haines tried to argue that Israel was facing an onslaught from Iran-backed terrorist organizations that have been shooting missiles at them for years. “Doesn't mean you can proactively bomb a country,” Hostin ridiculously asserted, essentially arguing that Israel didn’t have a right to defend itself.
At no point did Hostin explain how Israel was supposed to negotiate with a country whose position was that they shouldn’t exist and that all the Jews needed to die, but Hostin was adamant that you couldn’t call her an anti-Semite:
And by the way, I want to say this so I don't get a bunch of hate mail. Criticism of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitic! I'm criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu! I am criticizing Israel! I'm not an anti-Semite! But under international criminal law what is happening now is not legal! That's the bottom line!
The real bottom line was that while Hostin liked to boast that she’s a former federal prosecutor, she had not actively practiced law in years and was not trained on international law.
The transcript is below. Click "expand" to read:
ABC’s The View
June 18, 2025
11:06:00 a.m. Eastern(…)
SUNNY HOSTIN: Well, that’s what I think is very problematic, because what people aren't talking about is that Israel preemptively struck Iran. And so, I think the conversation would be very different if another country preemptively sent missiles to this country, right? No one would be saying this is fine with --
JOY BEHAR: Whoa, whoa, whoa, can I interrupt you?
HOSTIN: Sure.
BEHAR: Because I think that the Iranians and the Israelis believe Iran would like to completely destroy Israel.
ALYSSA FARAH GRIFFIN: They call for the destruction.
BEHAR: Iran is an actual existential threat to Israel.
HOSTIN: But that does not –
SARA HAINES: They also fund Hamas.
BEHAR: So, they’re saying, if you're trying to kill us, we want a nuclear bomb – we don't want you to have a nuke.
HOSTIN: That is fine, but you have to do that legally. And under international criminal law, you are not supposed to do this.
FARAH GRIFFIN: Well, Iran’s launched tons of missiles against Israel in the last few years.
BEHAR: I'm not sure Iran does things legally.
HOSTIN: But under international law, Israel should not be preemptively striking another country.
And President Trump just said yesterday, he demanded Iran's unconditional surrender and threatened to kill its supreme leader. He wrote, “we know where the so-called supreme leader is hiding. He’s an easy target, but is safe there. We are not going to take him out - kill – at least not for now.”
That is also illegal under this country’s – um – executive order – and these executive orders have been going ongoing since Gerald Ford. The current executive order says you cannot threaten nor can you kill the leader of another country.
We really need to have a bird’s eye view of what's going on. If that’s okay for Israel to do, if that’s okay for our president to do, is that okay for another country to do to us? That is unsafe and illegal.
BEHAR: Well, think of it this way. What if Canada was saying they were going to build a nuclear bomb and threatened to kill us all, what would we do?
HOSTIN: You have to do it diplomatically, Joy! You can’t just bomb a country!
BEHAR: Really? What's diplomatic of having a nuclear bomb and threatening another country?
HOSTIN: First of all, they don't necessarily have a nuclear bomb. President Obama, one of his foreign policy wins was that he had an agreement with Iran.
BEHAR: No, but they're building it.
HOSTIN: Well – well, Trump actually –
FARAH GRIFFIN: Obama acknowledged that they were building it.
HOSTIN: Trump actually – um - rolled back the -- out of that bill. And that's why I think Israel took this opportunity because if there had been an agreement between the U.S. and Iran, a nuclear agreement Israel could not have bombed. And so, they decided to bomb.
SARA HAINES: Israel has had a target on its back it’s enter existence from every terrorist organization known to man, and Iran is the world leading state-sponsor of terrorism.
HOSTIN: Doesn't mean you can proactively bomb a country.
HAINES: I’m just saying. These are the people that attacked them. They fund Hamas. I understand why they’re doing it.
HOSTIN: Do you think it’s illegal?
Let me remind people about the Iranian woman who was killed for miswearing her hijab. A vast majority of that country is not happy with the people in power.
HOSTIN: So, we don't like what another country is doing and so we can bomb?
HAINES: I'm not going to defend the legalness of a terrorist nation that has been funding people killing people for decades and saying, ‘they're not follow –
[Crosstalk]
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: I want to throw this in there. You might want to think about this because the reason there is diplomacy is so people aren't bombing each other willy nilly.
HOSTIN: Yeah.
HAINES: Which is why I commend what’s going on right now, cause the U.S. is not actively involved.
GOLDBERG: Well, now. They're not actively involved because by law --
HOSTIN: They're not supposed to be.
GOLDBERG: - he can't make that decision uni – [flubs saying “unilaterally”] what is wrong with my face?
[The cast saying “unilaterally” in unison]
FARAH GRIFFIN: But by the way, Iran has launched ballistic missile attacks U.S. forces in Iraq, just three years ago, preemptively! They have attacked Israel, preemptively.
GOLDBERG: Understood. Understood but –
FARAH GRIFFIN: They are a terrorist nation.
HOSTIN: So, should we do what they do?
FARAH GRIFFIN: No. As I said, the people of Iran have self-determination, and they want the ayatollah gone they should do it internally through a democratic process.
HOSTIN: And by the way, I want to say this so I don't get a bunch of hate mail. Criticism of the Israeli government is not anti-Semitic! I'm criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu! I am criticizing Israel! I'm not an anti-Semite! But under international criminal law what is happening now is not legal! That's the bottom line!
GOLDBERG: That's the thing. So, the question then becomes, do you -- that's why you have a U.N. That's why you have all these folks who come together. And yeah, it's a pain -
HAINES: And they’re working on it right now.
GOLDBERG: It's slow.
FARAH GRIFFIN: But let's remember too, the Iranians literally throw gay people off of buildings. They don't adhere to basic human rights or international law.
GOLDBERG: Let's not do that because if we start with that, we've been known in this country to tie gay folks to the car!
[Applause]
FARAH GRIFFIN: I’m sorry, but where Iranian regime is today is nothing compared is nothing compared to the Unites States!
GOLDBERG: Listen, I'm sorry! They used to just keep hanging black people!
FARAH GRIFFIN: It’s not even the same! I couldn’t step foot wearing this outfit in Iran right now.
GOLDBERG: Oh, no! That's not what you mean to say. It is the same.
FARAH GRIFFIN: No, it’s not. The year 2025 in the United States is nothing like -- if I stepped foot wearing this outfit in Tehran right now.
[Crosstalk, Haines trying to bring up Mahsa Amini]
FARAH GRIFFIN: I can't have my hair showing. I can’t wear a skirt. I can’t have my arms out.
[Crosstalk]
HOSTIN: And it’s for us to judge?
FARAH GRIFFIN: I literally said it's up to the Iranian people.
HAINES: Yes, it is up to them.
GOLDBERG: And that's why I'm saying it is the same! Murdering someone for their difference is not good whoever does it! It’s not good!
[Applause]
So, that's why I said you weren't saying what you -- what I heard was not what you meant.
FARAH GRIFFIN: Okay. I think it's very different to live in the United States in 2025 than it is in Iran.
GOLDBERG: Not if you're black!
HOSTIN: Not for everybody!
GOLDBERG: Not if you're black!
FARAH GRIFFIN: Guys, don't compare us to Tehran. No one at this table should go to Tehran.
GOLDBERG: Let me tell you about being in this country. This is the greatest country in the world.
[Applause]
I know that. I know that. We all know that. But every day we are worried. Do we have to be worried about our kids? Are our kids going to be shot because they're running through somebody's neighborhood? They are not big deals -- I don't mean to say they're not big deals to you. Cause that’s not what I meant.
HAINES: Because we are all women and they aren't doing well there either. They are not doing will in Iran. They're not educated. They cannot have property. They cannot be –
HOSTIN: She’s talking about the United States.
GOLDBERG: I'm talking about here.
FARAH GRIFFIN: Nobody wants to diminish the very real problems we have in this country.
GOLDBERG: Well, good.
FARAH GRIFFIN: That’s no one’s intent.
GOLDBERG: Good.
FARAH GRIFFIN: But I think it’s important we remember that there are places much darker than this country. And people who deserve rights –
GOLDBERG: Not everybody feels that way! Not everybody feels that way! Listen, I'm sorry. When you think about the fact that we got the vote in 1965 and --
FARAH GRIFFIN: But you can -- they don't have free and fair elections in Iran. It's not even the same universe.
HAINES: They can’t go out of their house, women.
GOLDBERG: You know what, there's no way I can make you understand.
(…)
