This is intriguing. If it was simply a matter of the "missing" birth certificate, I would say this is a non-issue. But the outstanding lawsuit, if properly filed, puts this in a very different light, IMO. Interestingly enough, all the 0bama campaign would have to do is produce a valid birth certificate - end of the issue. That shouldn't be too hard.

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I've been following this loosely as it's developed. First I heard that there was a question of where he'd been born, although I knew there was an issue with the BC. I would say that the argument that, even if born in Hawaii he still had Kenyan citizenship, isn't much. By American law, if born in America, he's a "natural-born citizen." I'm pretty sure, anyway. I don't know if Mexico considers a Mexican baby born here to also hold Mexican citizenship, but I don't think that effects our laws which (unfortunately) say it's a citizen.

OTOH, if he was born in Kenya, that's a different story, obviously. But, first I heard of that.

The one thing I really don't understand is why they don't just produce the BC. I don't see how that's an unreasonable request. It's a requirement of the office to be a citizen, and proving you meet that requirement should be neither a surprise nor a burden.

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I wonder if Arnold is watching? This is an important issue and should not be minimized. Its the presidency stupid!!!!!! There are few qualifications to be prez.....he should be vetted as to his birthplace...fully (sorry, it wasn't in a manger).

A lawsuit unfortunately is not enough. The federal election commission? Congress? Who should have oversight on this? They are steamrolling the rules as they go.....They are practicing the "do it and they'll have to prove it" routine.

This sounds like a trivial, foolish issue, but if you think it through it could be major.

From what I see, we have a significant possibility of having a person who doesn't satisfy the Constitutional requirement of being a natural-born citizen, being elected President.

What would happen if that occurred, and the truth came out after the election (and before the inauguration)? The Dems, I'm sure, would want Biden to take the office. The Republicans, I'm sure, would want the election invalidated, and to be held a second time.

I doubt there is any law that addresses this possibility (I know the Constitution doesn't, but there is some wording in the Constitution that says Congress can define Presidential succession issues, so there could conceivably be something there). I think the Federal Election Commission should step in and demand that 0bama resolve this immediately (after all, he could get his Birth Certificate within 2 days at most, even if he himself must travel to Hawaii to get it. Besides, he was in Hawaii not too long ago, and this issue had already come up from the Hillary side at the time, so he could have picked it up then).

My fear is that the Republicans would look very foolish if he came up with a legitimate certificate, and I fear the 0bama camp could be setting us up here. The only way I could see it done with no negative impact to our side would be for the judge in the civil suit to order 0bama to produce the certificate to the court, immediately. Fat chance.

Either that, or the Supreme Court could conceivably step in to resolve this issue. Knowing how quickly it moves, we should know by the 2012 election.

The Constitution puts forth few requirements for qualification for election. Another is that the candidate must be at least 35 by inauguration. With the inauguration on Jan 20th, what if 0bama didn't turn 35 until Jan 21st? Would he have run through the primaries and become candidate, or would the Dems have told him "come back when you grow up, kid"? Should we delay the inauguration by a day?

There are requirements listed in the Constitution, but no method of enforcement. Just like with this bailout bill, we are in uncharted territory.

The reason his birth in Kenya came up is from a news report that his family in Kenya swear he was born there, and that his Mother immediately flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

The birth certificate posted by the Daily Kos and passed around was closely examined and was determined a fake. Two questions arose, why is the number at the top right blanked out and why is there no State Seal embedded in the document? It was also thought to be a fake copy from his sister's birth certificate.

As others have said, why hasn't he cleared this up by now if he had nothing to hide?

We know if he was a Republican the 2 faced hypocrites of the MSM would be all over it. It appears they revel in proving they are rather than they are not.

I'm not sure what the issue is here. You ask why the MSM is not talking about his citizenship, and some commenters here are wondering why people aren't investigating Obama's birth certificate.

But a month ago, on Aug 21st, FactCheck.org posted an article examining the birth certificate that shows that Obama was born in Hawaii--http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html. So, the MSM is not asking for his birth certificate, because it's already been checked out. He's an American citizen.

As for him holding dual Kenyan citizenship, that's a little odd--you want to argue that a boy born in Hawaii in 1961 holds citizenship in a country that gained independence in 1963? Maybe if he had claimed it, this would be an interesting story, but he had no political relation with Kenya--so the MSM isn't following this because it's a non-story. (And again, FactCheck.org covered this a month ago, in August: http://www.factcheck...)

The requirement to present a birth cert only came  after Islam murdered 3,000 Americans on 9-11-01. The Islamic murderers had dozens of drivers licenses from a number of states but none had birth certificates. The fact is Hussein O could have a dozen drivers licenses from Il in different names if he obtained them prior to 911. Hussein O was an Islamist when he attended school in Kenya and his records show it. Democrats are so dense they fall to every con who comes along. Bet they buy a lot from door to door sales people and order a lot of unusable free stuff with shipping only $49.95. 

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If Obama were born in Kenya, that wouldn't be a stupid and trivial thing. That would disqualify him from running.

Therefore, he should produce the official BC or be forced to stop running.

Criminy! I've had to show my BC for certain jobs I've applied for, and I'm not running for Prez. At the very least, Barack must show his.

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This guy Berg could be dead on with the citizenship issue, but the problem is his standing. Seldom is being a mere US citizen and registered voter enough to give you standing to sue, particulalrly on an issue of this kind. I think McCain and other ballot-listed candidates are the only ones with standing, maybe also the republican national committee and perhaps also Biden if the messiah wins - since he would become VP elect when the electoral votes are counted (can you say "Biden stole the presidency!!!"? LOL! But, alas, Obama's election would injure them, not (legally but realistically for all time) any ordinary citizen. Recall the court battles of 2000 were captioned "Bush v Gore" or vice versa.

The suit basically alleges he was born in Kenya, the BC is a fake, and even if it were not, B. Hussein's mother was too young under the then naturalization act to confer "Natural born" status on him unless he filed an oath of allegience and renunciation of other citizenships within a short time after he turned 18. He never did that, and subsequently traveled with an Indonesian passport. We might not learn the truth until it is too late. But it certainly makes no sense that he has yet to produce an authenticated BC. One can only reasonably surmise nefarious activity from this failure.

This would certaily be the cover-up and scandal for all time if Hussein-o wins and he turns out to have been ineligible. I would rather his losing make this a moot point than his being sworn into office. Fox News should get all over this and do hourly redux reports of the issue. If it comes up in a debate, I unfortunately do not think McCain will do anything with it but announce it as a non-issue.

Another possibility is a congressional challenge the electoral votes at the time they are opened and counted. This requires the concurrence of a member of both houses.

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I agree with Mr. Berg.

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But I don't hold out much hope for his success in getting the DNC to comply.