The Most Clueless Man in Chicago

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Update | Hail Halperin: See incredible video at foot.  Pressed by Mark Halperin, Robert Gibbs admits Obama continued to associate with Ayers after learning his past.

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H/t Melody N. An Obama spokesman adamantly insists that in 1995 Barack Obama was the most clueless man in Chicago. Andrea Mitchell thinks talk of Barack Obama's ties to an unrepentant terrorist is a "distraction." Rudy Giuliani doesn't. Mitchell is happy to take the New York Times's word for the fact that Obama and William Ayers weren't close.  Rudy, not so much.

After the former NYC mayor made the case on today's Morning Joe as to why Ayers matters, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs came on, called Giuliani a liar, and flatly denied that—when beginning his political career in his living room—Obama knew Ayers was a terrorist.

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ANDREA MITCHELL: Given everything that's happened in the markets in the last couple days, and if you were running for president, would you be running this whole campaign about a former Chicago, you know, radical who knew Obama years ago in community organization --
Rudy can be heard laughing off camera.  Note Andrea's reticence in describing Ayers.  She hesitates, throws in a "you know," then calls him a "former radical."  Someone who sits in his living room, smokes a little pot, and rails against AmeriKa is a radical.  When that someone plants bombs and people die, he becomes a terrorist.  As fellow NewsBuster Geoffrey Dickens has noted, this isn't the first time Mitchell's been reluctant to call a knave a knave.
MITCHELL: Would you be talking about all this stuff, which frankly seems like a distraction?

RUDY GIULIANI: To you, but I don't think to the American people.  Of course I'd be talking about it.  This is totally extraordinary.
And a bit later.
GIULIANI: This guy, educated in the Saul Alinsky methods, good friend of Ayers --

MIKA BRZEZINSKI: Um [dissenting] --

GIULIANI: -- very close to Wright.  This is a very left-wing, most left-wing candidate of the Democratic party.  It's ideology. It's ideology, Andrea, it's not guilt by association.

MITCHELL: But Mr. Mayor, the New York Times said he was not a good friend.  The New York Times said they did not have much of a relationship at all.

GIULIANI [sarcastically]: Oh, gee, that's really, Andrea, that really persuades me.

MITCHELL: That he was not even a friend.

GIULIANI: The New York Times said that?  That really persuades me.
Gibbs of the Obama campaign made his appearance in a subsequent segment, and wasted no time in calling Giuliani a liar.
ROBERT GIBBS: Mika, let me tell you. If you had a lie-detector test on Rudy Giuliani, one of you guys would have been hit in the head with one of those needles.  He was off the charts. It's fine to have a debate, but let's get the facts right. Let's try to get in the ballpark of truth, and I don't think Rudy Giuliani's in the same area code.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: OK, OK, well, speaking of truth, though, Robert, let's—and I'm just going to tell you what the McCain camp put out yesterday, and they have quotes—true or false, because David Axelrod said Obama didn't know that Ayers was a terrorist when Ayers introduced him to Chicago politics. Is that true?  Did Barack Obama know that William Ayers was a terrorist when Ayers introduced him in his home to Chicago politicians? True or false?

GIBBS: No, no.  What David said was accurate.  What David said was very accurate.  Look, Joe, as has been written by any number of news organizations, what's been written by the New York Times: they knew each other, they worked on two boards together, they were not close.

SCARBOROUGH: But Obama didn't, no, no, back to my question: now, let's bring it up, because you called Giuliani a liar, let's make sure that you-all are telling the truth, here.

GIBBS: No, I'm just --

SCARBOROUGH: Let me ask the question.  Did Barack Obama know, and again, I don't think that voters care about this, but let's clean it up and get it out of the way. Did Barack Obama --

GIBBS: I cleaned it up, Joe, I answered your question --

SCARBOROUGH: Well, you've got to let me finish the question.

GIBBS: He did not.

SCARBOROUGH: You've got to let me finish the question.

GIBBS: Oh, OK.

SCARBOROUGH: Did Barack Obama know that William Ayers was a terrorist when William Ayers introduced him to Chicago politics in 1995 in his home?

GIBBS: OK, I listened to the question and the answer is still he didn't.

SCARBOROUGH: He did not know Ayers was a terrorist?

GIBBS: And that's what David said yesterday.

SCARBOROUGH: OK, very good.

GIBBS: Right.

There's only one man in Chicago left-wing political circles who didn't know William Ayers was a former Weatherman bomber, and he's running for president. Funny, that.

Line 'o the Day, courtesy Jennifer Rubin at Commentary

Obama claimed that he didn’t know that Reverend Wright said or believed all those hateful things. Now he contends that he was unaware until . . . until when is not clear. . . that Ayers was a terrorist. For a very long time he apparently didn’t know the surge was working. Perhaps next time Katie Couric should ask him what newspapers he reads. He seems rather sheltered and uniformed.

Update | The Haley's Comet of Media Events: the Obama campaign being hit with probing questions by a member of the MSM.  Mark Halperin of Time, who was a guest panelist on today's Morning Joe, caught up with Gibbs somewhere out on the campaign trail, and grilled him on what Obama knew and when he knew it about Ayers, yielding Gibbs's admission that Obama continued to associate with Obama after learning of his past.

MARK HALPERIN: Is it fair to say that [Barack Obama] continued to associate with [Bill Ayers] professionally -- and personally on a casual basis -- even after he learned?"

GIBBS: He continued to serve on a charitable board and an educational grant board with money supplied by Walter Annenberg, a Republican who was an ambassador under Richard Nixon. Yes."
Halperin: "But with the knowledge of Ayers' past?"

Gibbs: Yes.

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Community Organizing - another name for communist revolution

Read this and prepare to be very, very angry.

In 1946 Alinsky wrote Reveille for Radicals…about the principles and tactics of “community organizing,” otherwise known as agitating for revolution…which he and his disciples euphemistically refer to as “change.” Two of his most notable modern-day disciples are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. …a clearly identifiable enemy; …specifically name this foe…who is to blame for the “particular evil” that is the source of the people’s angst…it should be an individual such as a CEO, a mayor, or a president. (Bush, Palin) …the organizer’s task was to cultivate…a negative, visceral emotional response to the face of the enemy…to avoid the temptation to concede that his opponent was not “100 per cent devil,” or that he possessed certain admirable qualities such as being “a good churchgoing man, generous to charity, and a good husband.” (Bush/Palin Derangement Syndrome) Men will act when they are convinced their cause is 100 percent on the side of the angels, and that the opposition are 100 percent on the side of the devil.” …the ends (in this case, the transfer of power) justify virtually whatever means are required (in this case, lying). …the enemy was to be portrayed as the very personification of evil, against whom any and all methods were fair game, If the perceived oppressor surrenders or extends a hand of friendship...(t)his cannot be permitted. Eternal war, by definition, must never end. True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within.” (Barack Obama) …in order to most effectively cast themselves as defenders of moral principals and human decency, organizers must react with “shock, horror, and moral outrage” whenever their targeted enemy in any way misspeaks or fails to live up to his “book of rules.”
…the organizer must deride his enemy and dismiss him as someone unworthy of being taken seriously because he is either intellectually deficient or morally bankrupt…He advised organizers to “laugh at the enemy” in an effort to provoke “an irrational anger. “Ridicule,” said Alinsky, “is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule.  Does any of this ring a bell? For me it explains EVERYTHING that is going on right now: the hatred, the lies, the smears, the ridicule, the trolls, even the empty suit, his equally empty mantra of undefined “change”,  and his hesitancy to explain what he did as a “community organizer”. I have winnowed this down from a much more detailed, footnoted explanation of Alinsky and his work. Read the whole page and prepare yourself to be sick. http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2314 This profile was written by John Perazzo in April 2008, long before Palin, but it obviously accurately describes what happened to her, doesn’t it?

 

Good stuff. I've had

Good stuff.

I've had Alinsky's Rules For Radicals in my library for years. It's a roadmap for Obama's political career, goals and objectives and his end game.

One can literally predict his tactics based on Alinsky's writings. Obama is the absolutely prototype for a political warrior engaged in The Revolution against current America.

That's why Alinsky's son, David, had so much praise for Obama earlier this year. That's why every anti-American dictator in the world is so enthusiastic about Obama.

One reason the MSM has treaded lightly, if at all, on this aspect of Obama's life is that many of the the MSM editors and reporters are also part of The Revolution, and have been since the late 1960's. At that time, the Soviets, via the KBG, generously funded the Revolutionaries.

The gamble paid off for them. American newsrooms, universities and political backrooms are filled with them.

As a member of the Saul Alinsky cult (and it IS a political cult with all the descriptors pertaining to a cult), Obama will lie, distort, obfuscate, deceive, slander, and attack anyone who gets in his way. The MSM will protect him.

His political history proves that Obama will, as Alinsky taught, do anything to win. No tactic is off the table if it helps the Revolution. His goon squads in some Midwestern states are a forecast of what's coming if Obama wins.

Remember this: Obama has the heart of a Leninist despot. And you can take that to the bank.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

I don't doubt

I don't doubt anything that you stated because there is no doubt in my mind that the Obama's are trying to walk in Saul Alinsky's foot steps. Michelle Obama even stole a line from Rules for Radicals and used it in her speech at the DNC.

Chapter 2 of Alinsky's book says: "The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be."

Michelle Obama DNC: "Barack stood up that day, talking about a visit to Chicago neighborhoods, and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about "The world as it is and The world as it should be...."All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won’t do – that we have an obligation to fight for the world as it should be."

I also found an article here http://www.advocate.com/print_article_ektid62098.asp written by Michelle Obama and she repeats the same line multiple times.

Take note of the title of the article The world as it should be.

"I watched as Barack took off his jacket, rolled up his sleeves, and instantly connected with every person in that room. He gave the most eloquent talk about “the world as it is” and “the world as it should be.”

"....And he urged us to believe in ourselves and find the strength to strive for the world as it should be."

"....This is why Barack is running for president—because he believes that if we work together, we can build the world as it should be."

"If we come together and work together, we will elect Barack Obama president on November 4—and we’ll start building the world as it should be."

"Push back the liberal hordes!!" - Mark Levin

I recall both Ayers and his

I recall both Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dorn as a kid growing up during the '70s. As someone five years older than myself and supposedly more politically savvy than yours truly, there is no way Obama could possibly not know of his terrorist past. 

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

It looks like

We now know who the only person on the planet is who didn't know about Bill Ayers, his friend Barack Hussein Obama. How cool is that? And this wizard of smart wants to be President. How is that for vetting your friends. Can we expect the same when Obama is elected?

What's the diffenerence between a freind of David Duke and a friend of Rev Wright? Would you vote for a friend of David Duke? 

No, see, 0bomba knew that

No, see, 0bomba knew that Ayers and Doerhn founded the Weather Underground, and bombed 30-odd places in the U.S.  He just didn't know that those activities were legally classified as terrorism.

Riiiiiiiiiight.  Keep digging, 0bomba.  We're getting the headstone for your political grave ready.

»→ Sarah's kicking butt again

"After sitting down with Ahmadinajad, will Obama claim he didn't know he was a terrorist"

Gotta love this woman. 

"We cannot win with eggheads and African-Americans." - Paul Begala, Democrat racebaiter

Thank you Cool, That explains 0bama deer in the headlight looks

and the brains to match, I didn't knowww he was a  terrrrrorist... Say that word again with a little more FEELING.. 0bama..

waiting for some msm spin, to come to the aid of the falling star...

CLIMATE CRISIS

IranianUranium

It's all very innocent

 
Obama thought that the Weather Underground was the predecesor to the Weather Channel and that the Weathermen were an acapella singing group.

Yeah, That's the ticket.

You want change? Give me a dollar.

Ok

So...given this, either Obama KNEW he was a terrorist and didn't CARE!

OR

Obama DIDN'T KNOW he was a terrorist which makes him stupid!

Yeah, this is a win/win situation!!!

So, Gibbs: What lie did Giuliani tell?

Did Gibbs even say?  Or was it simply enough to call Giuliani a liar repeatedly.

And he sure did wiggle and squirm a lot before finally - after great hesitation (i.e., uncertainty) - claiming that Obama didn't know Ayers was a terrorist when he first met him.

Funny that nobody brought up the fact that Obama only stopped interacting with Ayers once he was elected senator.  I guess he just found out that Ayers was an unrepentant terrorist in 2005.

 Interesting to watch people like Mika's and Mitchell's use of the word "radical" instead of what the Ayers is: a terrorist.  Or maybe he's just a radical who like to blow stuff up.

Oh, and I love the way Rudy slammed the disingenuous moron Mitchell. 

I love Rudy on these shows

He's so wonderfully dismissive of the liberal twittisms that are thrown about.  Laughing about the NYT...."that's persuasive".

Notice that all of the Obamabots are citing the NYT as "proof" that Obama & Ayers weren't close....that way they reduce their own lying about the Obama/Ayers connection.  I think they're pulling a big CYA by doing this, and I suspect there's a whole lot more to the Obama/Ayers thing than we're seeing here.

I've worked for non-profit boards of directors, believe me, they know each other well.  And the relationship between Obama/Ayers in this regard is interesting, one running the "funding" arm and the other running the "operating" arm.  This to me implies a close relationship when you have dual organizations under one umbrella for compliance reasons.   

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Yeah, B

I never really cottoned to Rudy as a candidate, but he's the only R (up 'til now, that is) that will just laugh in the face of these robotic morons.

Gotta love him for that!

If there was a Department of Countering Lying Bullsh*t, he'd be the Sec.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Shocked and clueless

The "O" man and Capt. Renault in Casablanca would be kindred souls, cut from the same self-centered, ethically bankrupt and morally remorseless cloth.

Nope, don't know nuthin' 'bout birthin' no radicals, nosiree!

 

Hitler Youth & Other Stuff

Have any of you listened to any of Glen Beck this morning?

Hitler like youth on Fox

Yes I heard it. It was also on Fox this morning for an extended discussion. This is scary stuff that would make a great ad. Get it in the mainstream now guys! And, Oh yes John I might even mention it during the debate tonight.

Renault in Casablanca,

"Round up the usual suspects."

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

I am shocked ,,shocked to

I am shocked ,,shocked to find you have gambling going on in here. 

Dealer: Heres your winnings Sir

 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

GC,

LOL, yeah, forgot that one.    ;^)

 

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

The Once Respected New York Times

Republican's should start referring to the Times as "The Once Respected New York Times"

Can anyone tell me just how

Can anyone tell me just how stupid Robert Gibbs thinks the American people are?  And the MSM telling everyone that the american voters don't really care about this?  If people could get this info. they would care.  The problem is that many Americans go to work, come home, watch the news (NBC,CBS,ABC) then watch Jeopardy and so on.  They just don't hear about it because they don't watch Fox or get on the internet.  The MSM will be cupable for our country being destroyed.

"Can anyone tell me just

"Can anyone tell me just how stupid Robert Gibbs thinks the American people are?"

That's a toughie, Seashell.

How high is "up?"

But, if we ever do figure it out, we know where to place Gibbs on that scale.

Stupider.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Simple

Simple, this is not the William Ayers BO knew... as in, that wasn't the Rev. Wright I knew...

Obama probably slept

Obama probably slept through the "coming-out party," the book publishing, and the Woods board meetings.

See? Simple.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Or was he.....

just "present"? 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

From Ayers' point of view

Who cares what Obama knew? He was then what he is now ... naive but ambitious.

What's more interesting is that Ayers felt comfortable with Obama. Ayers is a radical who has no chance of personally acquiring power or influence. If he's anything like his speeches and his quotes, I suspect he doesn't care about personally acquiring power. Instead, he's devoted to a core set of ideas, and that's what he wants to promote. What are those core set of ideas? I'm not an expert on the guy, but I've read some of the speeches and writings available over the internet.

  • He's interested in radical egalitarianism.
  • He's convinced that the "rich and powerful" are suppressing the civil rights of everyone else, and he wants to "free us" from their nefarious schemes.
  • Naturally, we ignorant boobs have succumbed to the rich's twisting of truth. Lucky for us, Ayers has not. Ayers will lead us through the darkness. A messiah complex.

Sound familiar? Obama doesn't strike me, or the rest of America, as a terrorist. But he has these associations with radicals, and that's disturbing. That's why his grandiose messiah complex is so disturbing. If nothing else, he has a dangerous ego, which is way past self-confidence and veers into self-glorification. He doesn't think that he can be corrupted. And as anyone who has ever read the Greeks, that overconfidence is the first step down the road to tragedy.

The question isn't whether he agrees with radicals. The question is why the radicals gravitate to him.

Excellent point, KC,

I would add that Ayers not only shares Obama's egalitarian "vision," his blaming of "the rich," and his absolute faith in his ability to "show us the way."

Ayers is willing to do anything to promote those views.

Anything.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

The proof is in the debate

It's one of the oldest arguments around. If you have two people, which is better? (a) allowing both to profit, but one more than the other; or (b) allowing neither to profit. Which is better, mutual profit but with disparity, or absolute equality?

Capitalism accepts inequality. If we all try to get through the narrow door of wealth at the same time, we won't fit. So, capitalism works on the principle that some get through first. Who gets to go first? The risk takers. The entrepreneurs, the ones who put up the capital in the first place. 

  • Capitalism's moral imperative is to keep those doors open. Once rich, the entrepreneur can't shut the door behind them. We use government to keep opportunity open, but that's all. We don't want government to do anything else.  

On the other hand, Obama prefers equality. For Ayers and Wright and other radicals, simply being rich is a sign of moral evil. (That's why they're radical.)

Check out the April 16 Clinton-Obama debate in Philadelphia:

MR. GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased. The government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down. So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?  

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness. We saw an article today which showed that the top 50 hedge fund managers made $29 billion last year -- $29 billion for 50 individuals. And part of what has happened is that those who are able to work the stock market and amass huge fortunes on capital gains are paying a lower tax rate than their secretaries. That's not fair.  

Unequal doesn't mean unfair. If the secretary signed the contract for a decent salary, why is it unfair? Now, to be sure, it is unfair when the boss's salaries are so large that it destroys the business and she loses her job (i.e., Enron). But if the business is on solid footing, and the boss makes more than the secretary, that isn't unfair.

Quite, KC

Socialism = Absolute Equality of Misery 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

"Capitalism accepts

"Capitalism accepts inequality."

Because "inequality" is, for better or for worse, a part of reality.  I used to complain to my mamma and papa about this simple observation when I was but a child -- can anybody guess what their response was??

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

lotr,

I'm going to guess they said what I've heard attributed to John Kennedy:

"Life isn't fair."

 

"... smells like.... victory." - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Correctamundo!

Interesting -- didn't know it was JFK, although I don't doubt it.

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what

OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I've said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.

So, even faced with the fact that tax revenues would decrease, Obama would still raise the rate, for "fairness."  In other words, to take away from some just because they have a lot.

This can be called taxation by envy. Or spite.

Whatever we call it

Whatever we call it, it isn't capitalism.

You want change? Like, away from capitalism? This is the greatest country in the world. Let's change it! (Because I, Lord Obama, know how to improve America.)

The Greeks wrote this story, long ago, many times.

MB,

I believe in legal circles, this is simply known as "theft."

Because they can.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

KC

'birds of a feather flock together'. 0bama is as evil as the company he keeps.

I don't see any significant

difference between William Ayres and Timothy McVeigh... By his own admission Ayres wishes he'd done more. I guess we're lucky Ayres didn't have the same information or resources as McVeigh or he would have done much more physical and human damage.

So by proxy, if McVeigh had been released on a technicality, and was able to further Barack's career... Barry would hang with him :)

 

 

Close, kb2,

But remember, McVeigh was a "right-wing" terrorist (W-ever TH that is).

You know... the bad kind.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Lanny Davis was a good little Obamanista....

....last night on H&C with his claims that while 150,000 Americans just lost their jobs the McCain campaign is bringing up Bill Ayers.  He was outraged, OUTRAGED I tell you, that anyone dare question the Annointed One's associations and that it just shows how desperate the McCain campaign is.

The man (Davis) makes me want to puke.

Obama camp & MSM: 'Does McCain really want this debate?"

A common theme coming from the Obama surrogates is that "OHHH, I'm not sure this is a debate John McCain wants to have.  WE'LL BRING UP KEATING!!!".

Nice try, but as it turns out this is EXACTLY the debate McCain wants to have...and they can bring up the Keating 5 all they want.  The situations are like night and day.

So McCain and Palin have brought this to the forefront - finally - and the best these Obama stooges like Gibbs can do is yell "LIAR!" as the MSM tries to poo-poo it as a "distraction".

I hope McCain spends every second of his time tonight talking about Freddie, Fannie, CRA and Ayers/Wright.   Let Obama and the spineless media have it with both barrells.

Gibbs also followed

Gibbs also followed Giuliani on "Fox and Friends" this a.m. He stuck to calling Giuliani a liar and more than once answered that he didn't know anything about the specifics of Obama's relationship with Ayers. Really? An Obama spokesman hasn't even bothered to consider or investigate the "allegations" before accusing Giuliani of being a liar? Gibbs then twisted in the wind and repeated the talking points re: the economy. "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

We recall that Obama repeatedly denied concern about his relationship with Jeremiah Wright before he finally jetissoned the troublesome preacher. Wonder if Barry is a bit more leary of dissing a domestic terrorist who has no compunctions when it comes to civil disobedience?

Holy Cow... talk about the

Holy Cow... talk about the lie detector needle hitting you in the eye. Gibbs would be rendered blind. You don't kick off a political career in the home of a terrorist and not know who the guy is...

http://politicsofdes...

Does Obama Know Anything?

So he didn't know Ayers was a Terrorist?

He didn't know Wright was a Racist?

He didn't know Rezco was a Crook?

What does he know other than how to ride Affirmative Action to his benefit?

So what doesn't he know about Michelle, and what don't WE know about Him?

 STOP OBAMA NOW!

And he didn't even inhale.

Sound familiar?

"There is no evidence, so you can deny, deny, deny."  -- Bill Clinton

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

Does Obama Know Anything?

So true Chasvs

In light of this new cluelessness concerning Ayers perhaps Katie Curic should ask Obama what news publications he reads each day.

"Liberalism is a mental disorder" -Michael Savage

what news publication 0bama reads?

without question,it would be ' The People's Weekly World'. the relationship, CPUSA the not so nice party in our midst!

Wow,

This might turn out to be easier than I thought. People are going to get burned out on the "liar" charge. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't claiming that any charge against you is a "lie," and denigrating the messenger part of "old" politics, dating back to Boss Tweed, Tammany Hall, and, more recently, the Chicago Machine?

Check this out, Gibbs, you lying, gill-breathing, bottom-feeding pond denizen (I don't claim to be "different," so I can do that ;^P):

"It was at the Chicago home of Ayers and Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming “community organizer,” had his political coming out party in 1995."

Add in this:

"In his 2001 screed, Fugitive Days, Ayers recounts his life as a Sixties radical, his tenure as a Weatherman lieutenant, his terrorist campaign across America, and his enduring hatred for for the United States. "What a country," Ayers said in 2001. "It makes me want to puke."

AND this, (from the same link):

"'I don't regret setting bombs,' said Ayers in 2001'I feel we didn't do enough.'"

And, finally (for now), this, again, same link:

"In 1999 Ayers joined the Woods Fund of Chicago, where he served as a director alongside Barack Obama until the latter left the Woods board in December 2002." 

Put them all together, and they spell something. But it ain't "Mother." Obama's "political coming-out" was at Ayers' home in 1995. In 2001, Ayers said America made him want to "puke," and published his terrorist "memoirs." While Obama was a director on the board of the Woods Fund with Ayres from 1999 until 2002. And Obama didn't know anything about his history?

Tell me again, Gibbs; who's lying? Or is your defense that Obama is totally clueless? Because he's not presidential material, that's for sure.

Either way, you POS, you make Karl Rove look like St. Thomas Aquinas. Consider yourself flamed.

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Great link, IJoe

Oh right....didn't know a thing.

That link of yours kind of shoots that lie down like a SAM. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

This is getting downright scary!!!

That's just Ayres. I stumbled across this today.. and though I had heard of it before, this article details a lot. http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76170

Who recommended Obama to Harvard Law School?

"Obama approached Northwestern University professor John L. McKnight – a loyal student of Alinsky's radical tactics – to pen the Harvard letter in the late 1980s. McKnight serves on the boards of radically anti-American groups in Chicago, including one accused of thuggery."

This is apparently the "mystery man" Obama refers to in his 2006 book as: an "older man who had been active in the civil rights efforts in Chicago in the sixties"

The article mentions something that Obama himself wrote:

"Before leaving for Harvard, Obama wrote an article published in a journal titled, "After Alinsky: Community Organizing in Illinois," in which he praised McKnight and his organizing strategies. He also decried "institutional racism" and called for more "power" to put in place "a systematic approach to community organization."

Does anyone know what this is, or how to get a copy of it?

EDIT: I found it. I am going to read it now. It's available here: http://www.edwoj.com/Alinsky/AlinskyObamaChapter1990.htm

 

"We just want truth, we want fairness. We want that balance." ~ Sarah Palin (re: hypocricy of the press)

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

"older man who had been

"older man who had been active in the civil rights efforts in Chicago in the sixties"

So, Barry-O thinks bomb-throwing is a "civil rights" effort?

-Dave

If this nation is to be saved, it will be libertarian principles that save it.


That's the new euphemism for

That's the new euphemism for domestic terrorism... it's a "civil rights protest."

Dave,

"older man who had been active in the civil rights efforts in Chicago in the sixties"

So, Obama is justified in not knowing about Ayres' efforts in DC and elsewhere. See, perfectly understandable.

Brrrrrrrrrrr!!! 

I could never be an Obamunist. Or just an everyday troll.

Speaking of which, where are all the Anointed One's defenders today?

;^D

 

"... smells like.... victory!" - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Who wants to play

Who wants to play "connect-the-dots"?

In his article (linked above), Obama applauds the Gamaliel Foundation.  A little research into them finds that it is an organization which trains "community organizers" based on the principles of Saul Alinsky. http://www.gamaliel.org/Foundation/history.htm 

geokster posted a link to an excellent article on Alinsky and his "vision" of community organizers: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2314

 

"We just want truth, we want fairness. We want that balance." ~ Sarah Palin (re: hypocricy of the press)

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

I don't see this going

I don't see this going anywhere folks....I wish it would....I'm a realist and this will blow over and nothing will come of it. This is exactly what the Clintons were screaming about. All the media cover-up for Obama. If the Clintons couldn't get them to look deeper into this man's life.....LMFO....the Republicans sure won't. McCain's only shot now is to just hammer Obama directly tonight. He won't.....but it's his only shot.

I dont' know, oldArmy

Sarah Palin is not Hillary Clinton.

Hillary whined about the unfairness of it all, all the while getting the kid glove treatment from the dinosaur media.

Sarah Palin, OTOH, was absolutely skewered by the MSM from the get-go, in plain view of every poor slob in America who still watches the MsM.  So Palin has credibility when she points this out, whereas Hillary was just whining (and shedding tears).

Barracuda's don't cry, but they do get attention. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde... And they are

Blonde...

And they are very good at drawing blood in a flash! I have an Uncle that almost bled to death after a Cuda bite to the leg. Maybe we could get Sarah to take abite out of the Messiah. 

Something Stinks About Obama

 

 

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The barracuda is a formidable fish.

So Sarah Palin's nic is rather apt. 

The barracuda's habit is to crash and slash, lightning fast.

Too bad mrbill isn't here, he could write us a poem. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

That's so true Blonde. 

That's so true Blonde.  Sara is now telling it like it is.  I bet those who were skeptical about McCain's VP choice are seeing the light!

Don't agree, oldArmy,

This is different from the primaries. For starters, now is when all of the country is paying attention, because we all have a stake. Even the "undecideds," and the politically apathetic. It was just amusing to watch the Dems fight it out, and satisfying to watch the Clintons get the treatment we've put up with for so long, the treatment they benefitted from for years.

I think the main indication that this won't just go away is, the MSM is in full-deflection mode and it's still not working. They can't just ignore it and let it fade; won't work. This, coupled with McCain's "who is the real Obama?" meme, will raise enough doubts to demand answers to this from average folks. It's too lively on it's own, and it will not be allowed to die.

Not by McCain, not by Palin... and not by us.

Forget, hell!

 

"... smells like.... victory." - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

If Not for a Legal Technicality...

Bill Ayers would be in prison for the rest of his life and Barack Obama would have been introduced in some other lefty's living room.

I can't stand watching these people go on TV and LIE the way they do.  One reason Giuliani is such a breath of fresh air! 

Technicality, my a$$!  They

Technicality, my a$$!  They got off on account of Jimmy Carter's amnesty for draft dodgers!  Ayers got off scott-free, and Dohrn got probation and a $15,000 fine.  They should have been shot as the traitors they are.
They are the founders of the only organization in U.S. history to formally declare WAR against the U.S. and then commit over 2 dozen BOMBING attacks in support of their declaration and ideology.  Ayers stated in 2001 that he has no regrets about their bombings, even though several were fatal to those attacked (and innocent bystanders), and one pre-attack accident caused the deaths of several of his own compatriates.
THIS is the reason Obama is a threat.  The association demonstrates that he is willing to go to any lengths necessary, up to and including mass murder, to achieve his political objectives.
If Obama gains power, just imagine those "Obama Youth" thugs with weapons and a mission:
"Because of Obama, I am inspired to kill my parents!" (read Ayers if you think this is over the top)
"Because of Obama, I am inspired to kill his opponents!"
"Because of Obama, I am inspired to stop at NOTHING!"
"Yes WE CAN!!"  "Yes WE CAN!!"  "Yes WE CAN!!"
If you don't hear the echoes of "Sieg Heil" in that, you have no grasp of history.  In all seriousness, Obama must be stopped.

HK...well said, and.....

scary as hell!!!  If that "thing" gets elected, I see 1930's Germany all over again.  Remember people...Hitler WAS ELECTED!!! 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

»→ Down the road

After unsuccessful attempts to break into the Rap industry, using this video as a catapult, we're looking at maybe 3 (life) success stories, and a slew of others waxing maudlin over "If Only"

We won't be seeing a "Where Are They Now" reunion in ten years.

"We cannot win with eggheads and African-Americans." - Paul Begala, Democrat racebaiter

HOW did they become friends?

Well, it's amazing what you can decide to have not known when it's becomes inconvenient to have known it.

The really good question is not "How long has Obama known that his friend was a terrorist," it's "How did Obama just happen to make friends with a terrorist?"  I mean, what are the mathematical odds that of your good friends, at least one is a terrorist - I don't know any terrorists ... I wouldn't even know how to find one, let alone become friends with one.

GD...

What are the mathematical odds that Obama got chosen to administer Ayers $150 million dollar education grant?

Something Stinks About Obama

 

 

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So now people want to

So now people want to elevate Obama to the most clueless man in the nation. I feel better, don't you?

Something Stinks About Obama

  

 

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Interview with Obama

Interviewer: Senator, did you know that Ayers and his wife were leaders of the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist organization?

Obama: "Weather?" "Weather" Underground?  Um, Um, Uh, I thought they were members of "Global Climate Change" Underground.  Gee, I didn't know!

Guess that's the real definition of "An Inconvenient Truth."

Weather Underground? 

Weather Underground?  Isn't that, like, a fusion jazz band from the 1970s?

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

lotr,

You're thinking of Velvet Underground. 

Weather Channel Underground is a current cable/fusion band. 

I think the lead singer is John Coleman.   ;^)

(too obscure?)

 

"... smells like.... victory." - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

That would be: weather report.

early stuff good.... later stuff ..yawn.

CLIMATE CRISIS

IranianUranium

Also...

The libs are telling us that Obama is soooooo smart and Harvard educated and all.

How can you be educated at Harvard Law school and NOT know about the Weather Underground and all the associated legal crap that went with that?!?!?

Totally rediculous.

Hey, retrocon,

I have the title for Obama's next book.

"A Convenient Ignorance"

Or maybe,

"Dreams of my Intellect"

 

"... smells like.... victory." - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

So if we give Obama the

So if we give Obama the benefit of the doubt, then when exactly did he find out about Ayers, who told him and more importantly, what did he do about it?

Maybe Obama's problem

is not that he's a lying empty suit socialist but that he's just to obtuse to be President.  Or maybe in the Chicago Democratic machine you have to be one of those "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" monkeys.

Either way, not

Either way, not Presidential material.

 

"... smells like.... victory." - Robert Duvall, Apocalypse Now

Obama and radicals

Obama doesn't know anything about his friends or associates whether they be radicals,America hating reverends, slumlord felons, far left radical groups he's a field trainer for,Marxist black separitist theologians, low life machine politicians, he sees nothing, he hears nothing.  Is it safe to assume he also, blinded by his massive ego, knows nothing? They made and OWN him in true CHICAGO POLITICAL PAYBACK FASHION .  Believe it.

East TN John

I'm in that area as well, and just noticing in the local news all of the "record turnout" of voter registration. Judging by the illiteracy of the people interviewed (who have never voted before) I'm just taking a wild guess at who their candidate is.

I hope we are still a red state at the end of this......if TN falls prey to the Messiah then I don't know where else to go.