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'American Morning' Fact Checks Palin But Not Obama or Biden By Lyndsi Thomas (Bio \| Archive) September 5, 2008 - 12:44 ET Friday's "American Morning" featured a segment dedicated to fact checking Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's speech to the Republican National Convention. In introducing the reporter who did the fact checking, co-host Kiran Chetry claimed, "CNN's Deborah Feyerick is here to fact check Palin's speech and I'm sure whenever politics is involved we have to fact check these." Apparently, though, "American Morning" only feels the need to fact check speeches given by Republican candidates because the morning show did not provide the same fact checking analysis of the Democratic National Convention speeches given by Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden or Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. They did, however, fact check former president Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention and argued that some of his more conservative policies helped to usher in the "mortgage crisis." Nevertheless, Feyerick's fact check needs a little fact checking of its own. One of the statements in Palin's speech that CNN found "false" was her claim that she "stood up to the special interests and the lobbyists." To negate this claim, Feyerick said, "Palin was the Wasilla mayor to hire a Washington lobbyist, securing $11 million in special funding for the town." However, Palin prefaced this particular statement by saying "This was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau," signifying that her claim of standing up to special interests, lobbyists and big oil companies took place when she became governor. About Palin's claim about the $40 billion natural gas pipeline, Feyerick said "yes and no." After noting that the pipeline projected was approved, the reporter used the fact that the company hasn't started to build the pipeline yet to show that Palin's claim wasn't completely true. Feyerick also brought up that as governor, Palin asked Congress for $453 million for earmarks, but the network hardly mentions Obama's requests for earmarks, including one for his wife's hospital. Finally, Feyerick ended her report on a snarky note: Near the end of her speech, Governor Palin reviewed Barack Obama's positions on energy, taxes, terrorism and government spending. Her review of his record also requires some fact checking. A transcript of the segment follows: CINDY MCCAIN: John has picked a reform- minded, hockey-momming, basketball-shooting, moose-hunting, salmon- fishing, pistol-packing mother of five for vice president. KIRAN CHETRY: Well, that was Cindy McCain talking about Sarah Palin last night. And Palin herself roused the Republicans with her fiery speech. But was everything she said completely true? CNN's Deborah Feyerick is here to fact check Palin's speech and I'm sure whenever politics is involved we have to fact check these. DEBORAH FEYERICK: It's a little bit relevant. CHETRY: Right. Exactly. FEYERICK: Exactly. Well, you know, Kiran, Governor Palin delivered her speech with conviction, a sense of what you see is what you get. But after checking budget records and speaking to government officials and Alaska lawmakers, some of the claims are a bit of a stretch. GOV. SARAH PALIN: You know, they say the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick. FEYERICK: Putting Democrats on notice, Sarah Palin fired up Republicans listing what she's done and why she's qualified to be vice president. But is it all true? PALIN: I stood up to the special interests and the lobbyists. FEYERICK: Well, not entirely. Palin was the first Wasilla mayor to hire a Washington lobbyist, securing $11 million in special funding for the town. PALIN: And championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress. FEYERICK: Not true. In her two years as governor, Palin has asked Congress for $453 million for so-called earmarks, including $1 million for rock fish research. That famous $398 million bridge to nowhere? PALIN: I told the Congress, thanks but no thanks. FEYERICK: In fact, Alaska got that money but it was used for other projects. Steven Ellis is with an advocacy group that tracks public spending. STEVE ELLIS, TAXPAYERS FOR COMMON SENSE ACTION: Certainly she has got Wasilla into the earmarks game. She, you know, worked the system and was able to bring home earmarks and then certainly has been part of the earmark system in Alaska. And so, it's just something that is interesting to juxtapose with Senator McCain's position which has been stalwart no earmarks ever. FEYERICK: On cleaning up state government. PALIN: And today that ethics reform is the law. FEYERICK: That's true. She signed it last year. Read comments Free bias alerts <a href="http://harvest.AdGardener.com/noscript.aspx?s=16&c=122c344b-04b3-4b68-bb30-20e7a66bc14c" target="_blank"><img src="http://harvest.AdGardener.com/noscript.aspx?s=16&w=468&h=60&c=122c344b-04b3-4b68-bb30-20e7a66bc14c" width="468" height="60" border="0" /></a> Related Stories After Attacks on Palin, Biden Given a Pass by Media for Not Holding Press Conferences AP Attacks Palin for Not Being in Alaska During Campaign CNN’s John King Self-Criticizes Media’s ‘Language’ About GOP Kroft Cues Up Obama to Agree Palin 'Has Less Experience than You' CNN Reveals Sarah Palin Fantasies Most Emailed Stories Behar: 'A lot' of Homeschooled Kids Are 'Demented' Did SNL Steal Obama Race Card Joke From Conservative Blogger? Poll: Sexist Media Far Harsher On Palin Than Clinton Matthews: Palin 'Talking About God,' is 'Troubling' Kathleen Parker: 'G-O-D' Big Problem For GOP Related Topics 2008 Presidential Double Standards Earmarks Media Bias Debate Barack Obama Deborah Feyerick Joe Biden Sarah Palin American Morning CNN Convention Watch Comments Policy All comments are owned by whoever posted them and are subject to our terms of use. They should not be assumed to represent the views of NewsBusters. Viewing options Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. Facts September 5, 2008 - 12:47 ET by rick007 Hell they already know the facts about O Dumby. He's a terroist Him winning has me terroized . Login or register to post comments Email this page you and me both September 5, 2008 - 13:50 ET by mbuel I'm afraid of him winning as well. Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page How about this fact... September 5, 2008 - 16:06 ET by sawing batta Culture of corruption example # 1,397,463 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D930NU400&show_article=1 I know this isnt where it belongs, but since you probably will not see it on the nightly news, i thought i'd put it up here. Charlie gets a freebie, everyone else pays just a bit more to make up the difference... "this is not the Charlie Rangel I once knew..." BHO, 9/15/08 Login or register to post comments Email this page Wasn't the mortgage crises September 5, 2008 - 12:47 ET by kg Wasn't the mortgage crises due to Biden's bill? "Forget change, I want improvement!" Login or register to post comments Email this page From God's Mouth To Your Ears September 5, 2008 - 12:54 ET by Tyromac They believe anything spoken by Obama is coming straight from God's mouth. Why would there be any need to fact check it? Login or register to post comments Email this page Do Not Question September 5, 2008 - 13:09 ET by Carl Kolchak Do Not Question Biden or Obama! We will not tolerate dissent from any of you! We know who all of you are and what you are thinking. You had better only think good thoughts from here on out! Warmest Regards The Thought Police Login or register to post comments Email this page Great catch Lyndsi. This September 5, 2008 - 13:12 ET by Gary Hall Great catch Lyndsi. This statement caught my attention: They did, however, fact check former president Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention and found that some of his more conservative policies helped to usher in the mortgage crisis. Well, they (the liberal media) should have been reading the just a bit further left liberal media (which actually reports on the news that implicates the Democrats, from their own p.o.v.). Once again, we find that many of our current woes - as viewed from the liberal side of the isle - find their roots firmly planted in the Clinton administration. The Legacy of the Clinton Bubble, By Timothy A. Canova - Sep't 2008. Here's a glimpse at the MSM hides from it's constituents - A few excerpts: THE CONVENTIONAL wisdom has held that economic policy was a great success under Bill Clinton in the 1990s and a failure ever since. Hillary Clinton has made the comparison often, promising to end “the seven year detour” and “attack poverty by making the economy work again.” In January, in response to the president’s State of the Union Address, Barack Obama stated that it was “George Bush’s Washington that let the banks and financial institutions run amok and take our economy down this dangerous road.” Perhaps this reading of history makes for good politics in an election year, and it is certainly better for the Clintons than for anyone else. The only problem is that the story line is flawed. One could even say that it’s a bit of a fairy tale. [..] The trade deficit increased most dramatically at the end of the Clinton years. In 1999, the U.S. merchandise trade deficit surpassed $338 billion, a 53 percent increase from $220 billion in 1998 [..] Predatory lending was not an invention of the Bush administration. High-interest payday loans and subprime mortgages took off under Clinton. The morals of the marketplace were once again, “Buyer beware.” Many loans, tellingly referred to as “teaser loans,” were structured so that the monthly mortgage payments would start off low and rise significantly in the future, even while the overall loan amount—the outstanding principal—would also rise. The borrower would end up worse off several years into the mortgage than when the loan began. But none of this was considered overly problematic by the Clinton White House. [..] -- and my favorite line... Chickens Come Home to Roost - HISTORY SHOULD deal harshly with Bill Clinton Should indeed... (;~> gary Login or register to post comments Email this page Casting stoners September 5, 2008 - 13:15 ET by acumen ...the morning show did not provide the same fact checking analysis of the Democratic National Convention speeches... So it was written, the messiah said to fact check him was a sin. And lo it came to pass, those who did so were banished to dwell under the bus for all eternity. Login or register to post comments Email this page This is September 5, 2008 - 13:47 ET by NorthCoaster like checking out the Palin family history and personal stories but not Obama's or Biden's. By the way, what exactly did Barak do as a community organizer? Maybe they can tell us who, what where, when and why he performed as a community organizer in Chicago. Login or register to post comments Email this page Mortgage policy September 5, 2008 - 13:55 ET by Cool Arrow Renaming responsible lending practices as "Redlining" so Congress could call it racist and force lending institutions to make questionable loans is not a conservative policy. Rent-to-Own is nothing more than rent. Rocky & Bullwinkle '08 Login or register to post comments Email this page And how about fact checking Obama's statements here? September 5, 2008 - 14:00 ET by mbuel http://www.nytimes.c... Mr. Obama argued that his opponent was “intent on continuing the economic policies that just this year have caused the American economy to lose 605,000 jobs.” Nope, that would be liberal policies and the do nothing democrat congress that has not reigned in higher energy costs. The current spike in unemployment is DIRECTLY related to our higher energy costs. To a degree, some of the bubble pop in the mortgage industry and foreclosures were also related to this. “Today’s jobs report is a reminder of what’s at stake in this election,” Mr. Obama said in a statement. He is right about this. We can't afford a socialist congress and a socialist president. Palin has accomplished great things, while Obama has continued to make empty promises that the world owes you a living. Login or register to post comments Email this page Fact checkers are biased, too September 5, 2008 - 14:04 ET by Kevin Halpern It would seem it is not only the MSM media that are liberally biased. This week the Web site factcheck.org was "fact checking" the GOP convention daily. Last week it did scant check of "facts" put forth by speakers at the Democratic convention. Login or register to post comments Email this page Slimeball Olbermann September 5, 2008 - 14:18 ET by iveseenitall Flipping through the channels after McCain's speech I came upon Olbermann. He was emphasizing what McCain had said about having been broken in Hanoi. He was "clarifying" the point that McCain had signed a document. What a slimeball! If this man were put in the padded cell in which he belongs, he would "break" in about five seconds. That a piece of crap like Olbermann is on the air says it all about the biased MSM. Disgusting! NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" Login or register to post comments Email this page Mayors job September 5, 2008 - 14:24 ET by Jerry Mack I believe that it is an elected officials job to have as much of their state federal taxpayers money returned from the federal government to the state, towns and cities as possible for worthwhile projects such as schools,flood control and roads. Here in California state officials are always crying about not getting their fair share. One of Arnolds campaign promises was to get more of California tax dollars back fom the federal government. Some of the Northwestern states receive more for roads and such than they pay in.(Can not remember website) I do not know how much Alaska gets back. Perhaps the Rock fish is very important to the Alaskan fisheries. I do not believe that the one million dollars for the Rock and Roll hall of fame was a worthwhile project. Login or register to post comments Email this page hi all September 5, 2008 - 14:28 ET by mrpither http://digg.com/2008... please digg this up to help drive more trafffic back to newsbusters. and while you are there, check out the other stories that could use some help getting attention. join in the fun and submit other stories you think others should see to digg. conservatives are badly outnumbered on digg, so we can use all the help you can bring. have a good one! Login or register to post comments Email this page Chetry and Feyerick September 5, 2008 - 18:40 ET by Kris Well, aren't they just the newest sensation in unbiased reporting!! What a piece of crap. They have no one on to counter their assertions. They bend the "facts" in order for them to fit their lefty agenda. And where was the fact check on Obama and Biden? Of course, there wasn't one. Kiran and Deb wouldn't want to question God himself, now would they? Login or register to post comments Email this page Fact Checking Palin - I already did this... September 5, 2008 - 19:18 ET by PopularTech Sarah Palin: 'What is it exactly that the VP does every day?' (Video) 'Commander' Palin and the Alaska National Guard' (Anchorage Daily News) Palin education took her to five colleges (Anchorage Daily News) Palin: Iraq war 'a task that is from God' (Anchorage Daily News) Palin's pork requests confound reformer image (Anchorage Daily News) Palin pressured Wasilla librarian during first term (Anchorage Daily News) Palin says daughter, 17, is pregnant (Anchorage Daily News) Palin staff pushed to have trooper fired (Anchorage Daily News) Palin touts stance on 'Bridge to Nowhere,' doesn't note flip-flop (Anchorage Daily News) Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges? *"Yes. I would like to see Alaska's infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later. The window is now - while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist."* - Sarah Palin, 2006 Questions surround Palin's background check (Anchorage Daily News) Same-sex benefits ban gets Palin veto (Anchorage Daily News) Some of Palin's remarks stretch the truth (Anchorage Daily News) - As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. - In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. A Letter About Sarah Palin from Anne Kilkenny, Wasilla, Alaska "Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah. They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made point guard on the high school basketball team." - Anne Kilkenny, Wasilla, Alaska Sarah Palin's Resume Age: 44 Education: - B.S. Journalism, University of Idaho, 1987 Political Experience: - Former Council Member, Wasilla City Council, Alaska, 1992-1996 (pop: 6,715) - Former Mayor, Wasilla City, Alaska, 1996-2002 (pop: 6,715) (Votes: 909) - Candidate, Lieutenant Governor, Alaska, 2002 - Governor, Alaska, 2006-present (less than 2 years, 1 budget cycle) (pop: 670,053) Total Career Political Votes: 188,125 Professional Experience: - First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984 - Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984 - Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989 Login or register to post comments Email this page Pop.... September 5, 2008 - 19:21 ET by Blonde Thank you Mudkitty David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive Login or register to post comments Email this page Blonde September 5, 2008 - 19:25 ET by LionKing Is this a case of sour grapes? Does PT think the wrong governor got chosen? If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG. Login or register to post comments Email this page Not sure, LionKing September 5, 2008 - 19:29 ET by Blonde But PopTech has been completely annoying ever since the Palin pick was announced. Posting and reposting the same anti-Palin thing, ad-nauseum. It's tiresome. Hence my great joy at finding the Mudkitty term (and link). David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive Login or register to post comments Email this page No these are facts about Palin September 5, 2008 - 19:35 ET by PopularTech These are Palin facts in response to the hysteria and propaganda being posted about her and the outright lies she stated herself such as stopping the bridge to nowhere. Login or register to post comments Email this page Which you've posted September 5, 2008 - 19:39 ET by Blonde Many countless times before, here. Pop, give it up....you're making an a$$ out of yourself here, and losing what little respect you have left. David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive Login or register to post comments Email this page PT...bridge to nowhere...like your assessment September 5, 2008 - 19:44 ET by LionKing "In September, 2006, Palin showed up in Ketchikan on her gubernatorial campaign and said the bridge was essential for the town's prosperity." This was prior to her election. Is it possible that after elected and reviewing all of the fiscal requirements of the state that she may have revised her stance on "the bridge"? Isn't it the responsible thing to do when provided with all of the information to make a valued decision? Or, do you prefer to stick to a decision even if you now think that it is wrong? If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG. Login or register to post comments Email this page Or she could just be lying... September 5, 2008 - 19:52 ET by PopularTech Palin "bridge to nowhere" line angers many Alaskans (Reuters) "People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Login or register to post comments Email this page PT... where did PALIN lie? September 7, 2008 - 18:18 ET by LionKing She changed her position on the bridge after elected. Unlike true "flip-floppers" who change their position while in office ONLY to accomodate polls, not principles, she changed based on new information. FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT's just iritated because September 7, 2008 - 18:23 ET by Free Stinker PT's just iritated because all his other talking points have been debunked. Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like ! Login or register to post comments Email this page Nope....PT is right, she September 7, 2008 - 18:43 ET by bigtimer Nope....PT is right, she was for it before she was against it...when the msm made a huge deal out of the Bridge to Nowhere time after time along with McCain and other RINOs who love the msm at the time because it was advantageous to them, she backed down. I love Palin and her tenacity, I hope, so far anyway, she might be the first gal Prez...but for people to keep having blinders on about anyone politically then they don't understand that they don't call it blood sport for nothing. she did have earmarks, she did agree with Stevens about the Bridge in the beginning, she did hire a lobbysist... big deal and so what...you want to bring in money for your state, if you can't get the votes to make money with oil ect...get it however you can, Alaska's logging and mills have been shut down in so many towns years ago that I don't even want to go there, we all know about the drilling, the fed govt has two thirds of the land under their control, the environs have had law-suits til the cows come home, on and on it goes.... The thing that bothers me here with all of this, I like PT, he isn't a troll, he had made some good points that are truthful about Palin's record....I just wished he would calm down and others as well...and try to respect each others opinions here. Palin is the best thing that has happened for some of us so far in a long time....I do want the truth to be the truth though. Well, that is my rant about all of this...not really a rant, just my say...there is a lot more to learn as time goes on...what has been despicable and still is, is the msm...which I hope the keep up, because that gal can smile and twist the knife in so well they look it as pleasure at the time she is doing it, and not realize until much later that she just killed them! Palin Power! "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Yawn September 5, 2008 - 19:32 ET by PopularTech I am not a left wing troll, despite your propaganda. Login or register to post comments Email this page Propaganda? September 5, 2008 - 19:51 ET by Blonde You have been spamming this site repeatedly with the exact same posts. Fact. You have been disrupting numerous threads with this tactic. Also fact. That makes you a troll....I didn't say left wing, hmmm...you inferred it from my link, Pop. So I suppose that puts you in the reading deficient class, eh? This is it, I will ask you one last time, to quit making an idiot out of yourself here....take what small shred of dignity and credibility you have left, here, and stop with the MUDKITTY behaviour. David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive Login or register to post comments Email this page Yep propaganda September 5, 2008 - 20:17 ET by PopularTech I am posting facts where relevant, such as here. I haven't spammed anything. You don't even know what spamming is. You post a link that clearly says "left wing troll" and stated that I was a "Mudkitty". Maybe you should read your links better. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT... September 5, 2008 - 19:22 ET by Clear thinker C'mon, please give it a rest. Sarah Palin A Nazi? Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/ Login or register to post comments Email this page Notice what I actually posted September 5, 2008 - 19:33 ET by PopularTech I include actual facts not ridiculous things like calling her a Nazi. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT...Give it a rest September 5, 2008 - 19:28 ET by bigtimer PT... Give it a rest would ya...politics is a blood sport. Get over it already...please. We've all seen your links ad nauseum...enough. My gawd, you've had a week to calm down somewhat..all of us have had to suck it up now and then, get over it, not change our opinions but manage to mention them only when necessary to the poster who may have said something that made us bring it up...let 'er roll for awhile... I love ya', but this is one gal that is bringing the people together, we may get some conservatives, more than we think, in congress...which we desperately need. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page BT... September 5, 2008 - 19:35 ET by LionKing Rasmussen is reporting that Palin is more popular than Obama and McCain. I like the pick for many reasons, but mostly the intent of the Founding Fathers... They never intended Congress to be run by "professional" politicians. [ read: need for term limits ] Palin is a Washington outsider and is not rooted in its establishment. This is "fresh" and appealing. Her core conservatism has drawn me to vote this ticket with no remorse. [Plus, I like her "I ain't taking no crap from libs" approach. ] If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG. Login or register to post comments Email this page Obama is still leading in the polls September 5, 2008 - 19:37 ET by PopularTech Obama is still leading in the polls and got a large bump from the Palin pick. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT...point? September 5, 2008 - 19:48 ET by LionKing Hold that thought until November. If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG. Login or register to post comments Email this page Point = Obama still leading in the polls September 5, 2008 - 20:03 ET by PopularTech I think I made it clear. Login or register to post comments Email this page Ahead 2 points...you call September 5, 2008 - 19:49 ET by bigtimer Ahead 2 points...you call that a huge bump PT... Oh puhleeze...Obama is going to be creamed like something we have never seen...Obama wasn't going to win anyway to begin with in my opinion...but now he is going to be dust in the wind... What the hell is wrong with you anyway...why are you caring about Obama and his polls at the moment...what the hell do you think you are proving? I say you better wait until at least monday and the polling at RCP. For me, I don't care...I can feel it...Nov. 4th is going to tell it all. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Forgive me for not going with your "feelings" September 5, 2008 - 19:54 ET by PopularTech I will stick to scientific analysis. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT...and excuse mne for not September 5, 2008 - 20:10 ET by bigtimer PT...and excuse me for not going with your f'n scientific analysis... You are so full of yourself with this...only reason I can figure you are doing this for a week now is you were really upset Romney wasn't picked, well enough, but now I think you just are being an attention whore...get over yourself. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Or... September 5, 2008 - 20:12 ET by PopularTech I could think like I have from day one that she is not qualified. Login or register to post comments Email this page BT September 5, 2008 - 20:05 ET by MrShy I agree. After the past seven days, the winds have shifted BIG TIME. And this, after O-Force Ears was already tiring on people and McCain blew his nothing-butt out of the water at Saddleback. Now this, a dynamic, poised, extremely bright woman joining an ernest war veteran who clearly showed a lot more command of his plan and ideas beFORE she joined on the ticket, just further buries O and his lame, old-politics VP choice Biden. AND, I'm not even mentioning the Hillary/Bill factor, and the clear cold-shoulder they're showing the O camp, as they want nothing to do with them and are looking forward to 2012. That's a truckload of votes that are staying put or, more likely, swaying to the new woman -- and give her/him two more months to make their case.... wow.... Obama is so DOA it's not funny. * * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * * For REAL Change Login or register to post comments Email this page Hi September 5, 2008 - 20:21 ET by bigtimer Hi MrS... Well...BINGO! DOA indeed... along with the msm...that is what makes it even more delicious for me...I am having a blast watching them slowly disinegrate with worry...tactics they are using is their own demise. ...LOL... "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Hi LK... Exactly! I agree September 5, 2008 - 19:43 ET by bigtimer Hi LK... Exactly! I agree about the Founding Fathers too...people want somebody who was raised a lot like them, has family problems just like them, she is tough as nails...and she's not backing down...I, as a gal am going to wait like all others and see what happens as she is VP ect, but I feel like we are looking at the first woman Prez! I just got done listening to Scott Rasmussen...plus I heard it earlier somewhere...50% indeed, more than Obamie or Johnnie... I am tickled pink! Plus, she can do what only women can do with ease and a smile on their face while putting the knife in...without the other person realizing it, until it is too late. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page That is because people are not that smart September 5, 2008 - 19:57 ET by PopularTech I don't want somone who is not well educated, has family problems and is not successful. I want the exact opposite. This sort of populist thinking is idiotic. Unlike you I don't vote gender, I vote qualifications. Palin is unqualified to be VP period. Login or register to post comments Email this page I like the constitution definition of qualified, 35 & citizen September 5, 2008 - 20:15 ET by Dan The Man 2 Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. Login or register to post comments Email this page Forgive me for having higher standards September 5, 2008 - 20:20 ET by PopularTech You can take meets minimum. Login or register to post comments Email this page Higher standards PT ? Maybe September 5, 2008 - 20:23 ET by Blazer Higher standards PT ? Maybe you should contact Andrew Sullivan and discuss the virtues of "power glutes". You both obviously hate women. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. " - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM. " The Cake is a lie." Login or register to post comments Email this page Again more lies September 5, 2008 - 20:40 ET by PopularTech Yes higher standards as in education and experience. Palin has no private sector experience and very limited public sector experience and unrelated education. Hating women has nothing to do with it and is a lie. Login or register to post comments Email this page Troll! September 5, 2008 - 20:52 ET by R D Helm -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page Slander! September 5, 2008 - 21:02 ET by PopularTech .. Login or register to post comments Email this page Troll! September 5, 2008 - 20:53 ET by R D Helm -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page Slander! September 5, 2008 - 21:03 ET by PopularTech From the one who cannot argue the facts Login or register to post comments Email this page This is slander... September 5, 2008 - 21:06 ET by Clear thinker Palin Baby Wars - Liberals on Warpath Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/ Login or register to post comments Email this page Apologize publicly to misterbill for your disrespect, you... September 5, 2008 - 21:06 ET by R D Helm ...insignificant little sht, or you will see every comment you ever place here at NB responded to with TROLL!* Troll. -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page Grow up September 5, 2008 - 21:20 ET by PopularTech I am not apologizing to some guy that mocked one of my posts so get over it. Login or register to post comments Email this page PopTroll, you are a sexist, offensive snot-nosed punk. September 5, 2008 - 21:10 ET by R D Helm You deserve no gentlemanly treatment whatsoever. -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT... You are something September 5, 2008 - 20:17 ET by bigtimer PT... You are something else...I have watched/read you for over a week now, I have kept quiet out of deep respect for you...but good golly you are losing it with me, I know I'm nothing to you...just a cyber poster, but I am seriously starting to wonder just what you really are. Nobody is wanting you or anyone to agree with the Palin pick, I've had my worries too, have stated as such before the pick, long before, but you have deep problems if you have the need to keep repeating yourself...we all get it..now shut the hell up. Making me sad about all of this too...please PT be somewhat sane about this. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page bt, PT is obviously a September 5, 2008 - 20:27 ET by Blazer bt, PT is obviously a misogynist. I fear the longer we occupy his time here responding to him, the less time he'll have making sure his wife doesn't burn his biscuits. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. " - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM. " The Cake is a lie." Login or register to post comments Email this page Evenin' Blaze...I saw the September 5, 2008 - 20:33 ET by bigtimer Evenin' Blaze...I saw the posts and links about all of that...I myself just think he was being sarcastic about that...could be wrong. Nevertheless, this whole waah waah thing we have all seen for over a week just about... is getting too old. We get how you scientifically FEEL PT! "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page .....right bt,jus sayin', September 5, 2008 - 20:42 ET by Blazer .....right bt,jus sayin', just dont' wanna see Mrs. PT get a black eye. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. " - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM. " The Cake is a lie." Login or register to post comments Email this page Blazer you are a perpetual liar September 5, 2008 - 20:42 ET by PopularTech Over and over again the same lies because you cannot dispute the facts. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT, I guess everyone else September 5, 2008 - 20:45 ET by Blazer PT, I guess everyone else that calls you out on here is a perpetual liar also, although I understand my slaps sting worse. The fact is, you claim to be the worlds most perfect conservative. Maybe you should go counsel Jesus Christ. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. " - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM. " The Cake is a lie." Login or register to post comments Email this page Yes everyone that repeats a lie is a liar September 5, 2008 - 20:59 ET by PopularTech There is no calling out, only repetition of the slander. Your "slaps" hit empty air. I made no claims about myself but do hold others up to higher standards beyond the minimum, especially when that person is selected for VP over other more qualified people. Login or register to post comments Email this page So in other words PeeTee, September 5, 2008 - 21:06 ET by Blazer So in other words PeeTee, your sayin' its allright for you to slither around here, on your belly, but you hold others to higher standards than yourself. Thanx, we allready knew you were a hypocrite, as well as an idiot. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. " - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM. " The Cake is a lie." Login or register to post comments Email this page The one thing I am not is a hypocrite = fact September 5, 2008 - 21:11 ET by PopularTech I have none of these personal problems and more private sector experience than Palin. But I am not running for VP. In terms of morality (not religion) I have none of these vices. Sorry if reality is too much for you. I don't hire people based on their gender or race only qualifications, sorry if these standards are too "good" for you. Login or register to post comments Email this page PT... So that is what is September 5, 2008 - 21:25 ET by bigtimer PT... So that is what is sticking with you...morality? Just want to know. ...and if it is...you are going to search high and low for that in most elections, Romney isn't going to be President or VP so please just accept that fact and move on as much as you possibly can...join the real world for now and accept what the choices are for the time being. I know you aren't a troll, but you sure are a sore loser...plus I do wonder if you don't mind how old you are? "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page No it is about Qualifications September 5, 2008 - 21:32 ET by PopularTech What part of I do not support affirmative action and pandering do you not understand? I'm in the real world, live in it and always have. I know what my choices are. I am not going to stop giving my opinion because it offends the cheerleaders here. Login or register to post comments Email this page I agree about some of your September 5, 2008 - 21:38 ET by bigtimer I agree about some of your points...affirmative action is one of them..but for God's sake your over-saturation is one thing PT...don't you see that...enough for all of us..we understand your opinion, what you are doing is losing respect with your self destruction here...because believe me, that is what a lot of people are wanting to see happen to you now. I thought you were smarter than that. "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page bt, you weren't in the chat last night. If you had been... September 5, 2008 - 21:42 ET by R D Helm ...you would have been shocked by what this troll was saying. It was unbelievable. -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page No Dave I wasn't...but I September 5, 2008 - 21:53 ET by bigtimer No Dave I wasn't...but I don't want to see him banned because some are calling him a troll, he has never been a troll here as far as I am concerned. I saw the thread about misterbill, whom I love more than you will ever know...but he wasn't disrespecting misterbill's service in that thread, which he explained...you have taken this and ran with it. I am just trying to get him after a week to calm down and get over his disappointment, and not self-destruct here, he usually contributes a lot for us all to learn. Hope you understand my point of view too... "America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh Login or register to post comments Email this page Troll! September 5, 2008 - 20:52 ET by R D Helm -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page I thought you left? September 5, 2008 - 21:00 ET by PopularTech I guess you are a liar too. Login or register to post comments Email this page Offensive, sexist woman-hating Troll! September 5, 2008 - 21:02 ET by R D Helm -Dave. Login or register to post comments Email this page Lies and Slander September 5, 2008 - 21:04 ET by PopularTech From the one who cannot argue the facts Login or register to post comments Email this page