On Sunday's "NBC Nightly News," correspondent Pete Williams previewed details of a new book, The Terrorist Watch: Inside the Desperate Race to Stop the Next Attack, by Ronald Kessler, in which Kessler revealed information obtained by the an FBI agent who extensively interviewed Saddam Hussein and found, among other things, that the former Iraqi leader had deliberately tried to "fool the U.S." into believing he had weapons of mass destruction because "he wanted Iranian leaders to believe that he had nuclear and biological weapons." The FBI agent, named George Piro, also reported that Saddam Hussein "hoped the post-Gulf War sanctions on Iraq would dissolve, allowing him to pursue a nuclear capability." (Transcript follows)
NBC News correspondent Pete Williams began his report: "Saddam Hussein told his American captors that he so feared Iran, he wanted Iranian leaders to believe that he had nuclear and biological weapons. So he planned to fool the U.S. by, among other things, stalling U.N. inspectors to make it appear he had something to hide, weapons of mass destruction or WMD. But he hoped the post-Gulf War sanctions on Iraq would dissolve, allowing him to pursue a nuclear capability."
Then a soundbite of Kessler ran: "Saddam said that if America thought that he had WMD, then, of course, Iran would, and this would fulfill his goal of making sure that Iran did not want to attack Iraq."
Below is a complete transcript of the story from the Sunday November 11 "NBC Nightly News":
LESTER HOLT: On this Veterans Day, with American troops still embroiled in Iraq, new details are emerging about some of the issues that led the U.S. into war. The secrets of Saddam Hussein are revealed in a new book that includes details from an FBI agent who spent months with the Iraqi leader after his capture. Here's NBC justice correspondent Pete Williams.
PETE WILLIAMS: Saddam Hussein told his American captors that he so feared Iran, he wanted Iranian leaders to believe that he had nuclear and biological weapons. So he planned to fool the U.S. by, among other things, stalling U.N. inspectors to make it appear he had something to hide, weapons of mass destruction or WMD. But he hoped the post-Gulf War sanctions on Iraq would dissolve, allowing him to pursue a nuclear capability. That's what he told the only American to extensively debrief him after he was captured in 2003, according to investigative reporter Ron Kessler.
RON KESSLER: Saddam said that if America thought that he had WMD, then, of course, Iran would, and this would fulfill his goal of making sure that Iran did not want to attack Iraq.
WILLIAMS: For a new book about the war on terror, Kessler interviewed George Piro, an Arabic-speaking FBI agent who debriefed Saddam, and who has declined until now to talk about it. Citing the sensitive nature of his work, the FBI would not release a picture. Piro spent at least five hours with Saddam every day over seven months in a cell near the Baghdad airport. Among his claims, that contrary to what some U.S. officials suspected, he never used doubles or lookalikes, and that he planted false rumors of plans to overthrow him.
KESSLER: Saddam told Piro that he would periodically orchestrate a phony plot against himself, and the idea was to see if others would join in. And, of course, if they did, those people would be executed.
WILLIAMS: According to the book, Piro sought to win Saddam's confidence by being the only conduit to the outside world. So Piro showed Saddam video of Iraqis tearing down his statues, but also had special cookies flown in for Saddam's birthday. And that suit Saddam wore to court for his trial, given to him by Piro. Kessler says Piro's techniques appear to have won over Saddam completely.
KESSLER: At the end, when they finally said goodbye, Saddam actually teared up.
WILLIAMS: The FBI won't allow Piro to be interviewed on camera, and is just now beginning to let him tell the story of how he got Saddam Hussein to reveal secrets. Pete Williams, NBC News, Washington.




PETE WILLIAMS: Saddam Hussein told his American captors that he so feared Iran, he wanted Iranian leaders to believe that he had nuclear and biological weapons. So he planned to fool the U.S. by, among other things, stalling U.N. inspectors to make it appear he had something to hide, weapons of mass destruction or WMD. But he hoped the post-Gulf War sanctions on Iraq would dissolve, allowing him to pursue a nuclear capability. That's what he told the only American to extensively debrief him after he was captured in 2003, according to investigative reporter Ron Kessler.













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The MSM, a day late and a
November 12, 2007 - 05:23 ET by jdhawkThe MSM, a day late and a dollar short - as usual.
Now, Iran really is working on obtaining a nuclear weapon capability. And, if the reports are to be believed, will have one in months not years.
When will we wake up to this new danger?
"When will we wake up to
November 12, 2007 - 05:57 ET by jcrapes4"When will we wake up to this new danger?"
Democrats might and I stress might wake up when Iran nukes Israel. The Anti-War Crowd won't care until Iran nukes a starbucks in one of our cities.
When Israel glows.
November 12, 2007 - 10:19 ET by pbanks7My brother respectfully asked a war protester, "Do you realize they want you just as dead?" War protester response: "I don't believe that."
Liberals live in an alternate reality in which their altruism is applied to our enemies, and evil is applied to corporations, robber barons, Republicans, and our military personnel. I just gotta ask, "If I'm nice to you so you realize I mean you no harm, will you vote Republican?"
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
ISG rpt said quite clearly Saddam wanted to restart WMDs asap
November 12, 2007 - 08:27 ET by blackrain4xmasWhat, this is news? It was reported back in 03 by David Kay, 04 by the ISG and by the Sen Intel Com investigation into pre-war intel re Iraq, and again in their phase II rpt in 06. Hardly news-oh wait! I see....it's news to MSNBC which reported all those things then dismissed them and went with the Bush Lied narrative instead. Ahhhhh integrity in journalism. Welcome to MSNBC where they can report something FIVE times in 4 years, and still be awestruck when it's reported a sixth time.
Sarcasm ON What, you're
November 12, 2007 - 09:15 ET by Dave DSarcasm ON
What, you're telling me that the Duelfer report doesn't say "Clinton saved us from Saddam"? You mean it said he was going to restart his programs after sactions were lifted? Why that can't be true, Al Franken told me Clinton saved us, just like he stopped Bojinka.(And we all know he'd never just make stuff up.)
Sarcasm OFF
Thanks MSM for waiting so
November 12, 2007 - 09:26 ET by GregEThanks MSM for waiting so long to report something like that. We wouldn't want you to report it too soon while the country was still paying attention to the true threats in the world. No, let's wait til division sets in, bickering, undermining our efforts, etc etc....and only then report it, when you know it won't hurt your efforts to undermine our military efforts in the conflicts we're in, when many people have made up their minds so strongly that you could sit their arse on a nuclear weapon in an enemy country and they'd still deny it existed. After all, it's Bush who is at the top of their "evil" list. But of course as we all know, Bush is the world's top terrorists, as the libs like to say, unaware of how stupid they sound saying it.
I think that's a bit of
November 12, 2007 - 10:09 ET by BruzillaI think that's a bit of creative storytelling, and falls along the lines of the Soviets rewriting of the early stages of WWII. The story is phrased in such a way as to infer that Hussein was afraid of Iran because of it's agressiveness. The truth is that Hussein's concerns stemmed from the fact that most of his Order of Battle (OOB) was burned up and smoldering on RT 8 out of Kuwait after Desert Storm. With no conventional forces of note left, he had plenty of cause to worry that Iran might attempt some payback for his invasion of Iran. So it was his actions that led to the situation, not those of the Iranians.
What's also misleading is that Hussein knew that the UN sanctions would never be lifted as long as he had WMDs, so I don't see how a reasonable author could make the statement that Hussien wanted the world to believe he had WMDs, and yet hoped the UN sanctions would be lifted. WMD issue were the primary focus of the UN sanctions! Also, the author fails to mention that once the UN sanctions were lifted, Hussien would have been forced to pay huge $$$ in reparations to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc. As long as the UN sanctions were in place, he didn't have to pay a dime. And with the UN Oil For Food program making him millions, and backdoor oil sales making him millions more, he needed those UN sanctions to remain in place.
Bruz,
November 12, 2007 - 10:23 ET by pbanks7Thanks for cutting through the BS! Nothing like a little analysis. Either Sodomy Insane actually believed that, or he thought we'd buy it. The great obfuscator strikes again, even in death.
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
The MSM
November 12, 2007 - 14:06 ET by iveseenitallAfter the nukes go off in America, any members of the MSM who are still alive will ask, "Duh! Wha' happened?"... Idiots!
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Israel is a staunch ally - yet we pander the Islamo-fascists
November 12, 2007 - 14:40 ET by PlaceboOne supposes NBC think they are up on the news with this story. As said, they are a day late and a dollar short. No shock and awe there.
Iran is nearing its wanted nuclear capacity, while the libs and others of the stick your head wherever… continue their preference of seeing the world in an unrealistic, if not suicidal, worldview.
I sometimes fear when, there is no if, Israel is attacked with Iran’s nuclear arsenal, these amoral morons will lay blame on Israel and their own nation. Hopefully, Israel will be able to dump Olmert and tell Rice, et al, and state they are in command of their destiny and take it to Iran’s Islamo-Fascist leadership with pre-emptive measures.
Israel’s perilous position today makes the October Crisis seemingly a mere stroll in the park.
G-d help us all; if Israel does not act pre-emptively. It is time for us to act towards our allies as an ally and our enemies for what they truly are… a threat to our existence, not only, Israel’s.
calling them
November 12, 2007 - 16:33 ET by TruthMongercalling them islamo-fasciasts ain't pandering to them that's fer sure:)...
"Sadam had nuclear weapons," already..
November 12, 2007 - 15:19 ET by Gary HallBrad, according to Sen. Levin (D) .. "Sadam had nuclear weapons," already..
Senator Carl Levin, Nov. 2005 (2 1/2 years after the Iraq war started):
Is it not amazing that the MSM never had any interest, to the best of my knowledge, in what Levin had to say on national TV?
What else are we missing?
November 12, 2007 - 22:36 ET by regimeofterrorWhat else is the media going to finally get up to speed on?
I am glad they are reporting it but they've missed years worth of evidence on Saddam's terror links.
Saddam Hussein and terrorism. The rest of the story...
http://www.regimeoft...
Gee, say it ain't so...
November 13, 2007 - 08:42 ET by SFCMACNot only is NBC slow on the uptake, they missed the fact that we discovered WMD that he had stored and hidden from inspectors:
1) 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
2) 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html
3) 17 chemical warheads containing cyclosarin: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/07/02/international1018EDT0516.DTL
and: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124576,00.html
4) Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
5) Roadside bombs loaded with mustard and "conventional" sarin gas, assembled in binary chemical projectiles for maximum potency: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html
And this bombshell:
6) BAGHDAD, Iraq, March 12 - In the weeks after Baghdad fell in April 2003, looters systematically dismantled and removed tons of machinery from Saddam Hussein's most important weapons installations, including some with high-precision equipment capable of making parts for nuclear arms, a senior Iraqi official said this week in the government's first extensive comments on the looting.
The Iraqi official, Sami al-Araji, the deputy minister of industry, said it appeared that a highly organized operation had pinpointed specific plants in search of valuable equipment, some of which could be used for both military and civilian applications, and carted the machinery away.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/13/international/middleeast/13loot.html?ex=1184126400&en=1703a01ccfdbab97&ei=5070
The MSM reported these weapons in 2005, and then promptly came down with a case of selective amnesia; denying any discovery for the last two years.
Now, comes NBC to tell us that Hussein planned to get more nukes, and only "faked" having them to begin with? Apparently he wanted to "fool" everyone into thinking he had the WMDs already in his possession, use the tactic as a ploy to outlast the U.N. sanctions, and hope the whole thing would just fade away. Then he'd really start the ball rolling. Gawd, what convoluted logic.
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