Gore-ging on Energy, One Year Later Gore's Home Energy Use Climbs 10%

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In February of 2007 a small group named the Tennessee Center for Policy Research published an interesting little story that made Al Gore, the king of global warming alarmism, look a tad foolish. The report that TCPR sent out showed that Al Gore's own home was an energy hog. The TCPR report revealed that Al Gore's Tennessee mansion used more energy each month than the average American household uses in an entire year. In a response to this report, Gore claimed that he was diligently working to make his home more green, but now it looks like Gore is being gored again because a year down the line his energy use hasn't gone down. It hasn't even stayed level. It actually increased by 10%. How will the media handle this bloated increase despite Gore's claims of trying to improve?

In 2007, to a sensational reception the TCPR noted that the Gore family burned through energy at an amazing rate saying, "Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh -- guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359."

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Not long after, Gore answered his critics on the website of Think Progress, an extreme website run by the Center for American Progress and funded by left-winger George Soros.

Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.

2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint -- a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:

What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

The most telling aspect of the 2007 report about Gore's energy use is that he never disputed the facts. He admitted that he used that much energy, but claimed that he was trying to bring that usage down.

Well, we have waited a year to see the evidence of the Gore family's efforts to bring that carbon footprint down to zero. And, with a follow up report, the TCPR decided to look into Al Gore's usage of energy to see how well he did in improving his high energy use.

Unfortunately for the king of global warming, he didn't do so well.

The new report shows Gore actually increased his energy use despite all the supposed efforts to make that ol' carbon footprint equal "zero."

In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

Ooopsie.

So, from the man telling you to reverse your standard of living to the dark ages, the Gore household continues to gobble up more and more energy every month than you would in a year.

As TCPR says, actions speak louder than words. I'd dare say with all the hot air emanating from the expanding girth of the former VP about global warming, with all the many private jet flights across the world, and with his constant scolding of the rest of us to stop using so much energy, this news once again makes Gore look the hypocrite.

Last time this news was a Drudge bombshell. The MSM reluctantly picked up on it after it became the talk of the blogs and talk radio. Will this newest report revealing Gore's continued hypocrisy also become big news, even if only briefly?

I guess, we'll see.


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Gorean stats

His home energy use is in direct proportion to his ego and the value of his investments in various "green" technologies and in inverse proportion to his credibility.

Gore 6 cents per KwH ! Uhh?

How does HE get electric for 6 cents per KwH ?? What type of "sweetheart deal" is that? This should be investigated also; using his power to get power at half price. My last bill was $0.13/KwH (in Dallas TX, and that is cheaper than what most people get it for). Is power so cheap where he is at? Why don't they put it on the open grid w/ options trading and drive the price up 4x!

He gets his electricity

He gets his electricity from the TVA, nuclear and hydro power, both of which are ironically condemned by the ecofascists as not a PC form of alternative energy.

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

unanticipated profits

so does paying the 10% increase constitute windfall profits???

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944

Gore’s average monthly

Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359. Unconscionable? No. For some reason that doesn't seem like a lot. Let me define "unconscionable" for you: if you were to spend $40,000,000 on a party during wartime, that would be unconscionable. Kind of like Bush Jr. did awhile back.

Who?

Who is "Bush Jr."?

And what party? 40mil and I

And what party? 40mil and I missed it?  

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

...and what party is he

Who is "Bush Jr."?

...and what party is he talking about? I'm pretty sure that Bush never spent $40 million on any one in his life combined, too. 

However, let's say he did. What does that have to do with Gore being hypocrite? Since our friend can't defend that at all, he has to bring up this party silliness instead.

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

The innauguration. You

The innauguration. You know, the one that Bush had in the middle of wartime. http://www.msnbc.msn...

Seemed a little hypocritical to say we couldn't afford body armor for the troops but then flaunt glitz and glamour in the troops' faces, eh?

http://www.msnbc.msn...

Oh, and as for relevancy? The relevancy is that Bush is still the biggest hypocrit of them all.

mrsameoldsameold,

As pointed out in another post, funds for Inaugurations come mostly from private donations and party funds. But I love the veracity of the link you provide (with it's estimated cost), as in:

"Were the founding fathers betting men for scheduling the ceremony in January?"

Anyone with a smattering of historic knowledge knows Inaugurations originally took place in April. Apparently, the MSNBC folks didn't get the memo.

LMAO

is this actually a liberal

is this actually a liberal concerned about government spending?!?!?!?

inconceivable...

When did Bush say we

When did Bush say we couldn't afford body armor?

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

Around the same time he was

Around the same time he was planning a Hurricane to hit New Orleans.

"Abstain from McCain"

That's what I thought, CT.

That's what I thought, CT. :-)

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

Clinton's 1993 inauguration

Clinton's 1993 inauguration cost 30 million. Factor in inflation over 12 years ($1 in 1993 =  $1.34 in 2005), so Clinton's party cost exactly the same as GWB's.

And as mentioned, since inaugurations are primarily funded privately, the body armor angle is ludicrous. You wouldn't happen to be a Code Pink operative, would you? I ask that because around here, basing ANYTHING on MSNBC sources as you did is, well...

interesting

but as noted below:

1) Clinton's party factored for inflation cost the same.

2) What the hell does Bush's party have to do with body armor (which he NEVER said) or Gore being a hypocrite?  Bush never advocated small parties (though it'd be nice if he did)  Gore is telling the world to conserve energy to save the planet, all the while using more energy in a month than a family of four uses in a year!

It's classic distraction

Libs do this tactic all the time.  They point at something else to take your attention away from what you are discussing.

A non-sequitur does not a

A non-sequitur does not a valid argument make.

Who is this Bush Jr. character....

...and I'm thinking you might have an extra comma and some zeros, if you're talking about the Jenna Bush wedding a few weeks ago.

Get with the program. Produce some facts, links, quotes, anything...not just hot air. There's plenty enough of that around Gore's plantation. 

Why not provide a link to President Bush's environmentally friendly/Green home that makes Gore's home and/or consumption look like a Dubai prince's palace.

Here, I'll help you; and you'll notice I didn't use any sites that are typically friendly to repubs and/or conservs, just as a kicker.

http://edc.uoregon.edu/node/572

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/02/is_george_bush.php

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0429-03.htm

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

"..and I'm thinking you

"..and I'm thinking you might have an extra comma and some zeros, if
you're talking about the Jenna Bush wedding a few weeks ago.

Get with the program. Produce some facts, links, quotes,
anything...not just hot air. There's plenty enough of that around
Gore's plantation. "

Facts? Surely you jest. They don't need no stinkin' facts. What's the point anyway when making it up as you go along is so much more fun.

 

I love your carbon footprint, mrsimele.

"Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359. Unconscionable? No. For some reason that doesn't seem like a lot."

I can only assume your electric bill is more than Al's by your statement, your carbon footprint is SOOO sexy.

Liberals, gotta love (/sarc, and laugh at) their logic!

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

Again, there was nothing

Again, there was nothing mrsimile could say in defense of Gorezilla, so he had to make up nonsense as a smokescreen instead. Yeah, it was silly and immature, but what else could he do?

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

NBB,

he could have been silent, as to not confirm?! :-)

"Too bad Ignorance isn't painful..."

Compact Hypocrisy

Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359. Unconscionable? No. For some reason that doesn't seem like a lot. Let me define "unconscionable" for you: if you were to spend $40,000,000 on a party during wartime, that would be unconscionable. Kind of like Bush Jr. did awhile back.

Wow talk about hypocrisy and idiocy in just forty-seven words.

$1,359/mo. IS astronomical. To believe that it isn't proves either you are an idiot or a bald-face liar. That electric bill is more than the average American mortgage. Gore has a right to use the energy he deems necessary but the right he doesn't have is to make his dire claims of global warming and the need to reduce energy use but fails to live up to, in any manner at all, his prescription to save mankind. He not only uses enough energy to power a couple blocks worth of homes but actually increased his useage over the last year. He is in a hypocrisy league all his own.

And the canard about "Bush Jr." holding a $40,000,000 party convention during the midst of a war? A majority of that money is raised through individual contributions and corporate sponsorship. You know, the same sources the Democrats used when they held their bash in Boston in 2004 in the middle of a war. And if per chance you are referring to inauguration festivities held in January of 2005 the cost was not $40 million and again the vast majority is money raised through individual/corporate resources. If Obama wins are you and your ilk going to cancel inauguration festivities or will you justify the expense by beating a quick retreat from Iraq?

Your logic/beliefs are comfortably in the realm of pathetic moonbat-ism.

$1,359/month is just the tip

$1,359/month is just the tip of Gore's carbon footprint iceberg. That is just his electricity use in one house. How many houses does he own? He also has a staggering natural gas consumption as well at house #1. And lest we forget about his excess use of his private jet.

Well put,

and well thought out, thanks.

Liberals have to illogically defend the Goracle

They have no choice, Gore could fly around in private jets, own a zinc mine, pollute his local river, refuse to take the personal energy pledge he wants everyone else to, own stock in an oil company, have a home that uses 20 times the average amount of energy, even more than *gasp* Bush's house and they would defend him regardless. Because he is their Messiah, their Global Warming Prophet. The sad part is all of this is true:

Al Gore and Global Warming - Is He a Hypocrite? (Video) (10min)
Al Gore's Gulfstream (Video) (7min)
Al Gore, Environmentalist and Zinc Miner (The Wall Street Journal)
- Environmentalist Gore allowed zinc mine (USA Today)
- From Al to Zinc: Mine Story Shows How a Fatherly Favor Haunts Gore (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore, polluter? (WorldNetDaily)
Al Gore Refuses to Take Personal Energy Ethics Pledge (US Senate Environment & Public Works Committee)
Al Gore: Occidental Petroleum Connections (The Wall Street Journal)
Al Gore: The Other Oil Candidate (CorpWatch)
Al Gore's Inconvenient Stock Portfolio Exposed (PR Newswire)
Al Gore's Inconvenient Toxic Waste Dump (NewsMax)
Bush's Ranch House 'Far More Eco-Friendly' Than Gore's (CNSNews)
- George W. Bush's eco-friendly ranch compared to Al Gore's energy-expending mansion = True (Snopes)
Eco-warrior Al Gore serves up endangered fish at daughter's party (Daily Mail, UK)
Gore home's energy use: 20 times average (WorldNetDaily)
- Al Gore's residence uses considerably more energy than the average American home = True (Snopes)
Gore’s personal electricity consumption up 10%, despite “energy-efficient” home renovations (Tennesse Center for Policy Research)
Gore isn't quite as green as he's led the world to believe (USA Today)
Gore's Oil Money (The Nation)
Hypocrite Gore Should Practice What He Preaches (The Tech, MIT)
Integrity in the Balance: Al Gore's Record On the Environment (CorpWatch)
Meet the real Al Gore (WorldNetDaily)
Old-Growth Timber used to Rebuild the Veranda of the Vice Presidential Mansion (Newsweek)
Whose Ox Is Gored? The Former Vice President's Environmental Exaggerations and Hypocrisy (The Wall Street Journal)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

I didn't know electric bills

I didn't know electric bills were public knowledge.
Did his deli report on how much he spends on hoagies?

 

"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis

Utility bills...

Utility bills in Tennessee are public record, that is how this group got them.

WTH, you have got to be

WTH, you have got to be kidding me. Even in the great socialist republic of Canunkistan my utility bills are not available to the general public. There's something wrong here?? 

Well...

Well, you are wrong to assume they aren't public record in Tenn.

Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for the Gores, did not dispute the Center's figures, taken as they were from public records.

Utility bills are public record in Tennessee. I am not the lair you are hinting that I am.

WTH, no I didn't mean to

WTH, no I didn't mean to imply you're a lair. I'm just surprised! Now I have something to throw against Unsane when he calls Canada a "Nanny State that is going nowhere" :)

WTH, Thanks. I bet most

WTH,
Thanks.
I bet most everyone pays on time, too.

 

 

"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis

Utility bills - public record

Warner. Hysterical. Thanks. 

Utility bills - public record?

Interesting. You know, I don't even know if they are of public record here in CA, however, just a few weeks ago, I called one of our utility companies - curious about a misread, it appeared - and in the process of talking to the gal on the phone, I asked her how mine compared to my neighbor's. Satisfied when she volunteered that information (and for several months back), I asked about my neighbor on the other side. Not a problem. Then I went for the big house across the street. When, after the fact, I asked her if the information was confidential, she got a bit nervous.

PS - seems somewhere I remember seeing a pic of a zoning change notice posted in front of  Al's house a year or so back; one that would allow him to install solar panels on his home. Since, I read that the home was solar heated (without reference that the work had only just been completed). As Warner noted, it appears that the solar was not that effective.

And Warner... you submitted:

Last time this news was a Drudge bombshell. The MSM reluctantly picked up on it after it became the talk of the blogs and talk radio.

Not to argue if an outlet or a few ran a piece on the story, but rather to note that the obvious bias here is that unlike how the MSM hounds conservatives when any story catches them in a bind (or not) we did not, and do not continue to witness journalists at every opportunity pounding on Al Gore with the obvious questions:

Mr. ex-VP. How can you continue to waste our precious resources and continue to pollute the atmostphere adding to global warming with your massive carbon footoprint, while preaching to others on what they should be doing. Mr. ex-VP. This has the flavor of hypocrisy written all over it.

Answer the question Gary,

Answer the question Gary, how were your bills compared to your neighbors? 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

wow

I was gonna give the Goracle the benefit of the doubt, figuring his energy *cost* had gone up 10%, and that opponents were playing democrat style smear games.

But this was 10% actual increase in *usage*, in undeniable KWh numbers.

wow. 

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

It is "MY" understanding

It is "MY" understanding that he is blaming his higher utility bills on the very cold winter they had in TN, all do to global warming of course. 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Makes no sense

That argument makes no sense because if he was trying to lower his usage, it would still have gone down, wouldn't it? Or, at the very least, stayed level from last year? After all, Tennessee isn't the Arctic Circle! His winter COULDN'T have been so bad that usage went up on TOP of all the green improvements!

But it was cold, and he

But it was cold, and he couldn't suffer any more then he did. Also, he bought carbon offsets so he would'nt freeze his ars off. And one more thing, there is know way he is installing that green heater, clashes with the purple carpet. Here's hoping GW kicks in soon.

 BTW I know you don't think I am serious  

 

  

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

a/c's on, but it's still hot inside

and I thought it was the increased air conditioning costs to cool the increasing hot air (CO2?) inside the house.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944

Don't the warmers tell us

Don't the warmers tell us it wasn't that cold? 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

What a joke this whole

What a joke this whole "energy crisis/AGW" line is. Here we have the premier pusher of this nonsense completely disregarding his own advice to the rest of us. And his purchase of "carbon offsets" is even more moronic. Probably bought them from himself. And they are truly meaningless anyway. Even if they meant anything, they're only a fix for the wealthy anyway.

It just shows how far removed from the real world this guy is. Talk about an elitist!

Letting The Other Shoe Drop

Here it comes, the weasel excuse which the Gore camp will eventually use. Drum roll please.

"The Gore family has a large home with many modern technological advancements which require a higher than normal pattern of energy use. In consideration of this, Vice President Gore has consistently made donations to a carbon credit company as a means of offsetting the environmenal impact of his energy use. He is proud to provide Generation Investment Management, a carbon credit company, monthly offsets to fund the development of forests that help clean the CO2 from our atmosphere."

Did they forget to mention that Gore is part owner of Generation Investment Management and that he profits from making such donations? Just an oversight, I'm sure.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

www.conservativeboot...

BTW- Gore doesn't buy carbon

BTW- Gore doesn't buy carbon credits, it's part of his benefits package from GIM, they pay it for him on top of his salary.  

So basically Gore sucked up power from an additional 20+ American homes just to keep the lights on.  And everyone wonders why fuel prices are going up?  The energy hog is slurping up as much as possible creating a shortage in the process.  Does anyone at this point now disagree that the rich represented by Al Gore use half of the residential electricity of the US??????  GET OFF THE ELECTRIC GRID AL GORE.  

This is on top of air carriers having to cut back flights and stop service to cities because energy hogs like Al Gore flying in their private jets are driving up the price of energy by their frivolous usage.  Something has to give and I'm not reducing my standard of living just so Al Gore can consume more than twenty times I do!!  The Democrats want a tax, we will give them a tax, The Excess Energy Consumption Tax designed specifically to cut Al Gore's consumption down to OUR level of consumption.  

http://conservablogs...  

 Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.  

Thanks For the Clarification

I didn't know that GIM had fringed Algore on credits, but that's a nice fact to have in the old arsenal.

While I'm all for soaking those consumers who use an excess share of energy, I think I'd rather see it set up so that the extra revenue would go to the energy producers and have it earmarked for R&D of future technologies. No sense giving the fat greedy government bureaucrat pigs more money than they have already.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

- Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

www.conservativeboot...

Whats Al got!

Whats Al got going in that house? He running a steel mill?

Hot air

Hot air factory 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

No kidding!

That's what I was wondering. I could cool my home with my refrigerator and leave every single light on 24/7, and I wouldn't come anywhere near 17,768 kWh a month. That's 113 times what I used last month.

does it really matter?! i

does it really matter?!

i mean HE'S AL GORE!!!

he's sooooooooooooo dreamy...

it'll be all over Air America tomorrow...I'm sure... 

Al's Pot farm...

With that kind of usage the local authorities should look into the possibility of Al growing lot's of  weed. Grow lights would use that kind of energy, but not much else (at least what would make any sense).

"Abstain from McCain"

»→ That's it CT

Al's Hydroponic Hemp House.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Cool... It would explain

Cool...

It would explain an awful lot about old Al!

"Abstain from McCain"

»→ CT

Explains a lot about his followers too.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE

Sarc would be

Sarc would be proud 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

My thinking as well

Albert the 3rd got busted for pot. What else it there to do in the Tennessee mansion but grow pot.

  • Only the human superiority complex can think it can control something as big as the weather. It was changing before we came and will change after we are all gone.

Isn't that just one of his

Isn't that just one of his houses?

 

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

You guys need to back off.

You guys need to back off. You can really work up an appetite saving the world. If I have to give up a hot shower here or there so Mr. Gore can run his Foreman Grill a little longer, it is a small price to pay.  And you know his Fry-daddy has been working overtime since Bush stole the election.  It all adds up.

"Whatever Michelle Says Is The Message." –
Senator Barack Obama October 1, 2007, Chicago HQ

That Commie TVA sure sells

That Commie TVA sure sells electric cheap, six cents kWh. My PPL is
over 10 cents kWh and begging for more. But they have five VPs making
over $3,000,000. I bet they golf better than the TVA Commies. You get what you pay for.

"Burn that mother down." -- Jimmy Ellis

Actually, he has a plan, if

Actually, he has a plan, if he actually believes we cause global warming, he's doing what he can to cause global warming so he have his issue to keep him in the news and in the money!

This pretty much proves that Al doesn't buy any of the AGW BS

he has been spreading around the globe for the last seven years.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

Al Gore : World Class Hypocrite and Undisputed idiot

That jackass needs to do all his damn global warming reporting from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska ... or the Yukon ... or Siberia ... or Antarctica. Maybe some -70 and -100 degree temperatures will give that dillweed some perspective on THE NEED for global warming.

The only place global warming exists is in the minds of morons like Al Gore, James Hansen, and Heidi Cullen.

You know what they called "global warming" back in the 70's? They called it A HEAT WAVE ... but now it's GLOBAL warming ... sounds bigger - more menacing - something we've really got to throw hundreds of billions of dollars at.

Enjoy your search for manbearpig, Mr. Gore.

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is also a government big enough to take everything you've got." - Ronald Reagan 

Right On

Sometimes these hypocrite stories are a little fishy, but this one is right on. The math speaks for itself. There is no way Gore can defend his energy use based on his convictions about global warming.

Here is the problem: Gore is right about global warming. Unless you believe the entire International Panel on Climate Change, representing the best climate scientists in the world, is some massive conspiracy you cannot reasonably deny that global warming is a huge, human-made problem. Quote outsiders like Richard Lindzen and Michael Chricton all you want. They are not part of the strong maintstream opinion on this issue.

Conservatives must embrace this issue or face irrelevence.

I know I will catch flack for this. But that's what this site is all about right?

Good joke!

Thanks for the laugh....

"Abstain from McCain"

rc, this is a joke, right?

Do you actually read the AGW articles on this site, or do you just know someone who knows someone that just says they do.

BTW-What flavor is Al's Kool-Aid these days?

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

Fat.

Fat.

Yep IPCC is the child of

Yep IPCC is the child of the UN. That wonderful group that gave us food for oil.

BTW Science is about facts. Not spin. 

Conservative?? Maybe? Scientist???? Hummm.

"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT

"Here is the problem: Gore


"Here is the problem: Gore is right about global warming."

Yep. He's right about the whole 1 degree. Maybe. Repent now, for the end is near. 1 degree will be the death of us all.

How could the IPCC possibly

How could the IPCC possibly be wrong? Glad you asked.

http://www.paulmacra...

You've got to be kidding,

The "insiders" of agw can't be trusted.

Climate models can't be trusted.

It is not only the Hansen's of the world whose opinions matter. There are many reputable, relevant scientists who are skeptical about agw. You may never have heard of them, but they are out there. Thank the msm and agw conglomerate for that.

Not to mention, even a doubling of CO2 from present conditions would mean only a .6degC rise in mean global temperature.

Do a little homework before you come in here and tell us what we "must" believe. Only a fool would by into this nonsense on the lack of meritous proof put before us.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

rc, Add John Coleman to your list.

rc: They are not part of the strong maintstream [sic] opinion on this issue. 

rc - You are correct to use the word, opinion. I hope you read the article linked below.

From John Coleman's June 14th article:

On May 20th, a list of the names of over thirty-one thousand scientists who refute global warming was released.  Thirty-one thousand of which 9,000 are Ph.ds.  Think about that.  Thirty-one thousand.  That dwarfs the supposed 2,500 scientists on the UN panel.

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944

Somebody needs to do their Homework about the IPCC and Consensus

The IPCC is a political body that represents government appointed scientists. There is no massive conspiracy, you have certain scientists advancing an agenda either because they are computer illiterates, need funding or believe in socialism. The group-think left goes along with whatever they perceive as the group-think status quo. Here is some information to get you started on the IPCC:

A Major Deception on Global Warming (Frederick Seitz, Ph.D. Physics, The Wall Street Journal)
Bitten by the IPCC (National Post, Canada)
Chris Landsea Leaves IPCC (Christopher W. Landsea Ph.D. Atmospheric Science)
Digging up the roots of the IPCC (Spiked, UK)
IPCC report criticized by one of its lead authors (The Heartland Institute)
IPCC: the dangers of enforcing ‘consensus’ (Spiked)
IPCC too blinkered and corrupt to save (Financial Post, Canada)
Misplaced Trust - Inconvenient truths about the UN’s global warming panel (The Wall Street Journal)
The IPCC Should Leave Science to Scientists (The American Thinker)

Papers:
Independent Summary for Policymakers: IPCC Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (Fraser Institute)
Inadequacies and criticisms of the IPCC (PDF) (Robert (Bob) M. Carter, B.Sc. Geology, Ph.D. Paleontology)
IPCC Fourth Assessment Report 2007 Analysis and Summary (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Has the IPCC inflated the feedback factor? (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Peer Review? What Peer Review? Failures of scrutiny in the UN's Fourth Assessment Report (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
What is Wrong with the IPCC? (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)
Why the IPCC should be disbanded (PDF) (Science & Public Policy Institute)

If you think global warming exists and is caused by man then please prove it using the scientific method without computer models.

There is no Consensus!

31,000 Scientists Prove No 'Consensus’ on "Man-Made" Global Warming (OISM)
- Art Robinson Responds to Petition Slander (OISM)
- Qualifications of Signers (OISM)
4000 Scientists sign 'The Heidelberg Appeal' (Science & Environmental Policy Project)
1500 Scholars, Policy Experts and Theologians sign the 'Cornwall Declaration on Environmental Stewardship' (Cornwall Allliance)
500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares (The Heartland Institute)
400 Scientists Dispute Man-Made Global Warming Claims (US Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works)
170 Scientists, Economists and Theologians sign an open letter to the signers of 'Climate Change: An Evangelical Call to Action' (Cownwall Alliance)
152 Climate Experts sign 'The Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change' (ICSC)
105 Scientists sign 'The Leipzig Declaration on Global Climate Change' (Science & Environmental Policy Project)
100 Scientists sign an 'Open Letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations' (National Post, Canada)
60 Scientists call on Harper to revisit the science of global warming (Financial Post, Canada)
47 Scientists sign the 'Statement by Atmospheric Scientists on Greenhouse Warming' (Science & Environmental Policy Project)
41 Scientists debunk global warming alert (The Daily Telegraph, UK)
35 Skeptical Scientists, 'The Deniers' (National Post, Canada)

Inconvenient Fact: ...only 51 individuals signed the IPCC Report released on February 2, 2007

 

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Ok, I'm going to ask one

Ok, I'm going to ask one more time, cause this makes no sense to me. Just how exactly do you folks know about Al Gores utility bills? Where I come from (a commie country) my bills are not in the public domain..

Stop asking a stupid

Stop asking a stupid question and READ the replies to you above!!!!!!

It has already been

It has already been answered. In Tennesee, utility bills are public record.

[TCA 10-7-301(6)]

3 ...
In accordance with state law, the following is an example of utility records
subject to public inspection:

CUSTOMER RECORDS:

a)
Customer bills and usage records;

b)
Customer mailing lists;

c)
Customer payment delinquencies, cut-offs and payment histories.

 

mandrake, it would not matter even if you did find your bill...

...as you clearly cannot read!

Good Grief!

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

Try living in a cave, Al. 

Try living in a cave, Al.  It's more efficient.

Ooh, ooh, ooh...

You all forgot to take the Power-Factor into account.  The electricity he actually uses is only 1000 kwh/month. But inefficiencies caused by inductive loads, such as refridgerators, freezers, air conditioners and the primary one, his motor mouth, causes Gore's apparent usage to be 20 times that.

Because the primary inefficiency is due to how he makes his living, I'm sure it is a legitiment tax write off.

I knew i could figure this one out!

Inductive PF

Let's see, I think that would be a lag load, right?

;^)

Inductive..

You don't see him leading do  you! :)

More hypocrisy

"Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to
offset the family’s carbon footprint -- a concept the right-wing fails
to understand."

I love the hypocrisy of the left.

Poor people - the people the left are always claiming they care so much about - can't AFFORD to purchase carbon offsets -- a concept the left-wing fails to understand.

GRASSFIRE

 Do any of you folks participate with grassfire.org and/or the Media Research Center. The following is from an e-mail i received today. I have signed several of theyre petitions but never sent them any money. Just wonder if they are any good are not. I could post some more links from them about other troubleing matters such as the Nafta Super Highway and the NAU, Thanks,  kilrod

John Coleman, the Founder of the Weather Channel, recently
made a case linking Al Gore’s Climate Alarmism with the
rising gas prices.

Go here to access that article:

http://www.grassfire.net/r.asp?U=8295&CID=106&RID=16204065

It is clear that radical environmentalism must take much of
the blame for our current gas crisis. Consider this:

++ No nuclear plants in the past 20 years. Why? Environmentalists
   will not allow it.

++ Our domestic oil production has dropped by 22 percent since the
   last energy crisis. Again, radical environmentalism is working
   against any new drilling.

++ Did you know that Rocky Mountain shale oil holds more than
   six times as much potential oil reserves as Saudi Arabia --
   enough to fuel America well into the next century?
   Environmentalists don't want this resource to be touched.

And the bogus threat that CO2 is destroying the planet will
make it virtually impossible for America to expand our own capacity.

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

 Never heard of them, but

 Never heard of them, but then I doubt they know me either. The link asked for $, I lost interest almost as fast

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

G. C.

 Most of the time they don't hit ya up, i just sign the petion if i agree with it, and i've been on the e-mail list for several months and have'nt sent any money, but i still get stuff from them. Sometimes it's a petition e-mail they send to your Representitive or Senator and i always get a response from the individual Rep. are Sen. so i know they are at least doing some work. They line up well with conservative, Christian, Patriots, as for as i can tell.

kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

OK

I will take a look through other avenues. If they are good guys we will try to help. 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

10-4 G. C.

G.C. &I.J.;  Thanks for the response and consideration. I would like to find a way to actually get something done other than shootin blanks at my tv and then finding out to late that them dam socialist liberals have managed to get legislation passed are get some hack judge  to overturn a law that is bad for this country. I aint very smart, i aint wealthy, i live out in the sticks, and i have had a belly full of the Godless socialist lib-O-tards.

kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Umm...

I don't know about grassfire.org, but the Media Research Center is the parent of a popular media bias site called....

NEWSBUSTERS!

D'oh!

"Gore has had a consistent

"Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to
offset the family’s carbon footprint -- a concept the right-wing fails
to understand."

Yep...from himself. We "right wingers" understand this carbon offset scam much better than you liberal mush-minds.

Just a fancy way of saying

Just a fancy way of saying "I can use more because I can pay for it!"

A couple weeks ago Barbara Boxer said (paraphrasing) we wouldn't leave our kids locked in a hot car, so why would we leave them locked in a hot world?

Good grief...if you take Gore's carbon offets solution...it's OK to leave your kid in a hot car, as long as you pay someone else to not leave their kid in a hot car, to "make up for it."

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What a complete airhead!  Far more people die from cold than from heat.  And AGW advocates have admitted that there will be a 10 year halt in global warming.

That was a seriously fatuous comment by the Senator from California.

odds?

So Al endorses the Big "O", shows up in my state, it rains all day and all night AND I get my utility bill ALL IN THE SAME DAY!  I think I'll go buy a lotto ticket! Just so you know, my bill was about 1/10th Al's. I could afford a few burgers with the money I'm saving, right?

Three different counties in

Three different counties in which I have lived in Ohio have open public records concerning utilities.  Maybe the entire state has utilities as public record.  This would make sense as a consumer protection mechanism.  One can find out utility costs before renting or purchasing in order to make an informed decision about future costs.

I would not be surprised if many more states other than Tennessee and Ohio have utility bills as public records.

RRAM Tough! 

OMG, what will they think

OMG, what will they think of me?  

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Chances are you won't rate

Chances are you won't rate a batted eyelash compared to Gorezilla.

Unless you've got a basement full of hydroponic garden demon weed.  Some morons were busted across the street from a police station in the Cleveland area last year after their electric bills were a tad high compared to previous residents and the Utility Co. informed the popo.  Sorry, no offsetting carbon credits available.

Drugs make you stoopid.

RRAM Tough! 

The Photoshop job on the

The Photoshop job on the picture that accompanies this article is well done; the picture is hilarious.

Remember, calories are very small units of heat. ;-)

 

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"It could be the answer to our age-old, philosophical question, 'Why are we here?' PLASTIC!"

 In an email conversation,

 In an email conversation, I was told the following:

"CO2 is supposed to be the big bugaboo. The oceans are big carbon sinks and plants love the stuff.  Plus, the atomic weight of CO2 is 44 and that of air is 28.7, that is 1.5x heavier than air.  How does CO2 get more than a couple of hundred feet off the ground?  Except for that emitted by aircraft - it doesn't.  And that eventually drops."

With Earth is over 70% water, that leaves 30% land, not all of which is populated, makes agw pure bullscat. 

They

cannot even create this so called "Green House Effect" in any laboratory. It just doesn't happen and does not exist. Anyone who believes any of this AGW crap is simply a fool.

Mr. Gore, if I join your

Mr. Gore, if I join your cult can I have a carbon footprint as big as yours?

Since Gore owns the carbon trading companies...

isnt he really just moving money into a different account when he says he is buying carbon offsets?

Also, I would like to ask all Gore his solution to the following scenario: suppose every home in america used as much energy that his home did.  will carbon offsetting be able to clean up all the pollution generated?  No.

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Moreover, if everyone on the planet had the "carbon footprint" of Mr. Albert Gore, the impact on the planet could actually be quite serious.

Yes and

He flies around the world pushing the global warming scam in a executive jet polluting the atmosphere.

He like others elitists think we the common people should change our ways not them.

At 6 cents a kWh, is it

At 6 cents a kWh, is it possible that we are all subsidizing Al's wastefullness?

/Now with corrected spelling.