NB reader Steven Parker sends along this mangled caption of a Fort Hood photo from AP on Yahoo! News:
U.S. Army soldiers lower the flag following Revile in front of the III Corp Headquarters building at Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas, Friday, Nov. 6, 2009.
We're guessing the caption writer meant "Reveille," which is often the bugle call.....when the flag goes up, not down. Ouch. Buglers often play "Retreat" for the retirement of the colors.
This might inspire some Army people to want the draft reinstated -- just so the journalists aren't so ignorant.




















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It Is Retreat!
November 7, 2009 - 07:21 ET by GeneralAlCan't these ignorant morons even get one fact right? The disdain these people have for the military always comes through loud and clear when ever they report anything about it! They wouldn't have been this careless with the facts regarding Teddy!
Cheers for Boy Scouts
November 7, 2009 - 07:46 ET by Tim GrahamI'm not an Army vet. I learned this at summer camp in Boy Scouts. They make the same error in pics 41 and 42 (as soldiers fold the flag).
Sorry to clarify
November 7, 2009 - 09:11 ET by American.PatriotBut these idiots disdain all that is American
Memo to AP
November 7, 2009 - 07:48 ET by JeffWeimerFor your stylebook:
Reveille is when you get up.
Colors is when you raise the Flag (0800, and you play The Star Spangled Banner).
Retreat is at sundown, when the Flag is lowered.
You left out "Taps" which is
November 7, 2009 - 08:21 ET by motherbeltYou left out "Taps" which is bedtime. :-)
Retreat
November 7, 2009 - 07:48 ET by VA VoterActually it's 'Taps'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taps
Actually, JW is correct.
November 7, 2009 - 08:05 ET by Jcon96Actually, JW is correct. Retreat is played when the flag is lowered, Taps is usually played at 11 pm (it is the bugle call for go to bed) I would suggest a better source than Wikipedia. Perhaps a veteran?
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.
George S. Patton&
Go to bed?
November 7, 2009 - 11:42 ET by Jerry MackIt is go to bed only in Boot Camp. After that it means to turn out the lights in the sleeping and non-essential areas.
Navy Routine
November 7, 2009 - 13:53 ET by Tugboat PhilTaps is 2200. No bugle or piping.
"Taps. Taps. Lights out. All hands turn in to your racks. Maintain silence about the decks. The smoking lamp is out in all berthing areas. Taps."
Gun Control - The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
Correct Phil. 2300 for
November 7, 2009 - 20:10 ET by Jcon96Correct Phil. 2200 for Army.(My mistake and/or bad typing) With a bugle call. And it means lights out at all times. Not just boot camp. Unless exempted by regs. (guard post, motor pool, etc.) perhaps it was just posts I have served. The Cav does stick to it's traditions. I was attempting to make the point that Taps is not for the lowering of the flag.
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.
George S. Patton
The AP plays BUNGLER
November 7, 2009 - 07:54 ET by Jack BauerClearly the writer was channeling the average extreme leftist crypto-commies who have now hijacked the Democrat party of JFK...
REVILE is the very thing they have been doing to the military everyday since they fell into the clutches of the anti-American, anti-miltary liberal arts professors.
Glad to se Kengie finaly landid a job.
November 7, 2009 - 08:15 ET by SickofLibsGlad to se Kengie finaly landid a job.
James Jones Writes of Taps
November 7, 2009 - 08:41 ET by P.J. GladnickHere is what my favorite novelist, James Jones, wrote about Taps in his novel, "From Here To Eternity":
He looked at his watch and as the second hand touched the top stepped up and raised the bugle to the megaphone, and the nervousness dropped from him like a discarded blouse, and he was suddenly alone, gone away from the rest of them.
The first note was clear and absolutely certain. There was no question or stumbling in this bugle. It swept across the quadrangle positively, held just a fraction longer than most buglers hold it. Held long like the length of time, stretching away from weary day to weary day. Held long like thirty years. The second note was short, almost too abrupt. Cut short and soon gone, like the minutes with a whore. Short like a ten minute break is short. And then the last note of the first phrase rose triumphantly from the slightly broken rhythm, triumphantly high on an untouchable level of pride above the humiliations, the degradations.
He played it all that way, with a paused then hurried rhythm that no metronome could follow. There was no placid regimented tempo to Taps. The notes rose high in the air and hung above the quadrangle. They vibrated there, caressingly, filled with an infinite sadness, an endless patience, a pointless pride, the requiem and epitaph of the common soldier, who smelled like a common soldier, as a woman had once told him. They hovered like halos over the heads of sleeping men in the darkened barracks, turning all the grossness to the beauty that is the beauty of sympathy and understanding. Here we are, they said, you made us, now see us, dont close your eyes and shudder at it; this beauty, and this sorrow, of things as they are. This is the true song, the song of the ruck, not of battle heroes; the song of the Stockade prisoners itchily stinking sweating under coats of grey rock dust; the song of the mucky KPs, of the men without women who collect the rags of the officers' wives, who come to scour the Officer's Club--after the parties are over. This is the song of the scum, the Aqua-Velva drinkers, the shamelessness who greedily drain the half filled glasses, some of them lipstick smeared, that the partyers can afford to leave unfinished.
This is the song of the men who have no place, played by a man who has never had a place, and can therefore play it. Listen to it. You know this song, remember? This is the song you close your ears to every night, so you can sleep. This is the song you drink five martinis every evening not to hear. This is the song of the Great Loneliness, that creeps in the desert wind and dehydrates the soul. This is the song you'll listen to on the day you die. When you lay there in bed and sweat it out, you know that all the doctors and nurses and weeping friends don't mean a thing and cant help you any, cant save you one small bitter taste of it, because you are the one thats dying and not them; when you wait for it to come and know the sleep will not evade it and martinis will not put it off and conversation will not circumvent it and hobbies will not help you to escape it; then you will hear this song and remembering, recognize it. This song is Reality. Remember? Surely you remember?
Remember the scene well
November 7, 2009 - 08:53 ET by general companyMontgomery Clift plays Taps
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Movie vs Novel
November 7, 2009 - 09:07 ET by P.J. GladnickGreat as the movie was...the novel was MUCH BETTER. "From Here To Eternity" was the first James Jones novel I ever read and I was STUNNED at how incredible it was. BTW, James Jones also wrote what I consider THE Great American Novel---"Some Came Running." Absolutely the best novel about small town life in America. But much MUCH more. It also featured long distance car travel in the era before the Interstate Highway System, the pervasiveness of gambling long before the Indian casinos, political corruption, and lots, lots more. A MUST READ for everyone!!!
Thanks PJ
November 7, 2009 - 10:09 ET by general companyWe will add them to our reading list.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Thank you gc, for the video clip...
November 7, 2009 - 18:03 ET by BO STINKSsitting here, weeping and praying for the finest military in history.
"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the Plain Meaning of Words!" ~Sam Adams
If you are on a military
November 7, 2009 - 09:09 ET by ricklailIf you are on a military post when either Reville or Retreat is played you are supposed to stop and face the post HQ. If in uniform you must salute. Civilans are supposed to stand at attention with their hands over their hearts.
I had forgotten that until we were at Pensacola Naval Hosptial to see our new grandson and all the military personnel were facing the flag saluting.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
ricklail
November 7, 2009 - 09:29 ET by jacktheripperI remember seeing that scene played out in the movie "Soldier in the Rain" when Jackie Gleason tells a young soldier running to stop and salute when Reville or Retreat was playing (not sure which it's been so long) Great movie
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
That's right, Rick
November 7, 2009 - 09:44 ET by BlondeThanks for that memory. It's a good one.
At Ft. Riley, we lived about 2 blocks from post HQ. Particularly at this time of year, I'd be on my way home from work, and the sun was just about down as Retreat would sound. It was so calm and still, with everyone stopping their cars and facing the flag as it came down.
The "old post" at Ft. Riley was beautiful....Colonel's row surrounding the old cavalry parade grounds, beautiful big stone houses (now duplexes), wide lawns, trees, and the post HQ. I can see it in my mind's eye, thanks again for mentioning this.
I hope he fails, too.
You no doubt remember all
November 7, 2009 - 10:59 ET by BDYou no doubt remember all the innumerable recorded bugle calls coming from the Historic District of Fort Huachuca? At last count I think it is something like 16 a day based on the old cavalry tradition of playing mess call, work call, etc.
My favorite is still "Church Call" at 9am on Sunday mornings. To my mind it can easily be mistaken for TAPS and is quite haunting in its beauty.
THere is a WAV file at
http://www.usscouts.org/mb/ChurchCall.asp
BD
November 7, 2009 - 12:07 ET by BlondeI only visited Fort Huachuca for a few days before we got married, beautiful place.
I hope he fails, too.
Any Bugle call sends chills down my spine
November 7, 2009 - 09:43 ET by Ole_SargeIt was that way long before I enlisted, and remains long after I have retired.
I cannot hear Taps without crying, be it done by Boy Scouts or Girl Scouts, on TV or worse, the echoing of it from the nearby military installation.
A 10 second "fact check" would have prevented the glaring error. If the reporter and media outlet gets such a small detail messed-up, they lack credibility for the larger article. Attention to the details, because they do count.
You fail in small tasks of no consequence, how can I trust you to tackle larger ones with a consequence?
Ole_Sage
November 7, 2009 - 11:55 ET by ricklailI think the most chilling to me was when they played taps at the funeral of Roger Dale Alexander on November 28th, 1969. It was chilly with a slight wind blowing. Taps echoed all down the hill and into the hollow below. I can't get that one out of my mind. Dale was the co-captian of our HS football team in 1967.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Taps (Lyrics)
November 7, 2009 - 11:32 ET by ShanghaiRayCall me patriotic, call me sentimental, call me an AMERICAN.
Taps
Fading light dims the sight,
And a star gems the sky, gleaming bright.
From afar drawing nigh -- Falls the night.
Day is done, gone the sun,
From the lake, from the hills, from the sky;
All is well, safely rest, God is nigh.
Then good night, peaceful night,
Till the light of the dawn shineth bright;
God is near, do not fear -- Friend, good night.
In memory of all those who died in the service of our beloved country and to all those murdered in Fort Hood.
X
November 7, 2009 - 11:53 ET by serfer62Reville was 0600
First the bugle call was "attention" followed by "colors".
Taps was 2200
I would think that given the
November 7, 2009 - 12:33 ET by eaglewingz08I would think that given the enormity of the terrorist act that the lowering of the flag to half staff (mast) would be accompanied by TAPS.
No Point
November 7, 2009 - 13:28 ET by Secret ConservativeThere would be no point in trying to require military service for journalism majors - the military wouldn't WANT these whining liberal wienies.
There's some conflicting
November 7, 2009 - 17:54 ET by G. MayThere's some conflicting information on this thread. While "Reveille" is played for the raising of the flag on Army posts, the only bugle call played on Navy and Marine Bases for the raising of The National Colors is "To The Color".
The draft would not help!
November 7, 2009 - 17:57 ET by Patriot IIliberal journalists are ignorant by birth and there is no changing them, a tour in the military would not do a thing for a 45 I.Q. LOL
Re Reveille
November 7, 2009 - 18:10 ET by slickwillie2001I've been on bases as a civilian where in the morning they also shoot off some kind of gun or cannon. If you are still working on your morning coffee that can give you a start. I think that was Fort Stewart here in GA.
Knox did that, at least
November 7, 2009 - 20:17 ET by Jcon96Knox did that, at least years ago. I think they stopped at the post I served on in Germany. Startled the locals a bit, I guess.
It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank God that such men lived.
George S. Patton
Spellchecker makes a lousy editor
November 9, 2009 - 09:29 ET by Great DebaterUnfortunately for the AP, revile is an actual word (with a meaning completely different than the one intended) and using spellchecker as the editor/fact-checker allows blatant mistakes to go through. Just a few too many cutbacks in your editorial and fact-checking depts., AP?