National Public Radio's Morning Edition celebrated the end of 2008 on New Year’s Eve with black commentator (and Huffington Post contributor) John Ridley listing the top "non-troversies" of 2008, which he defined as "what seemed monumental then, in retrospect has all the significance of a Dennis Kucinich stump speech." Ridley’s top "non-troversy" was Reverend Wright’s sermon clips about America deserving 9/11 and the U.S. government inventing AIDS. Ridley claimed he was only saying what the Robertsons and Falwells did:
And the number non-troversy of 2008? Are you ready for this? How dare Jeremiah Wright say the bigoted, hurtful things in the privacy of a black church that men of God like Pat Robertson, John Hagee, and the late Jerry Falwell said in public? Barack Obama denounces Wright, comes across as a rational black man, then delivers a historic speech on race in America and ends up in the White House. I mean, the whole thing worked out so well, I have a feeling that somewhere Wright and Obama are secretly sharing a cigar, swapping one of those terrorist fist jabs Fox News warned us about, and saying to each other, ‘We got 'em, baby. We got 'em.’
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It’s a good thing Ridley is safe in an NPR studio and not having to face rebuttal. Where did Falwell or Robertson preach "God damn America"? Yes, Falwell did say (on Robertson's TV show) that the gays and the ACLU may have caused God to lift his veil of protection over the United States that allowed the September 11 attacks (for which he apologized). That’s not the same as asking God to condemn your country.
Falwell was forced to apologize. When you’re a liberal preacher and you say America deserved it because of Nagasaki or our alleged neglect of the Palestinians or South Africans, liberals like Ridley see no need for apologies – and Wright never offered one. Ridley, by claiming Wright was a "nontroversy," is suggesting he finds nothing objectionable in Wright mocking Italians as "garlic noses" and wild conspiracy theories about AIDS, among other things.
Ridley also has a blog at NPR.org called Visible Man, where he posted the commentary.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
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Wright and Obama are
January 2, 2009 - 09:11 ET by motherbeltWright and Obama are secretly sharing a cigar, swapping one of those
terrorist fist jabs Fox News warned us about, and saying to each other,
‘We got 'em, baby. We got 'em.
Yeah. In more ways than one.
And I wouldn't be surprised to see Obama mend his relationship with Wright, now that it's safe to do so.
Oh well... there ya go.
January 2, 2009 - 09:12 ET by sherylsimsOh well... there ya go. Glad that is settled. I guess compared to the Birth Certificate (another NON issue) it is nothing, really. Move along folks.
<rolling eyes>
I still would like to know
January 2, 2009 - 09:13 ET by billbI still would like to know how Obama got HIS senate seat!
Probably paid for by Tony
January 2, 2009 - 09:14 ET by sherylsimsProbably paid for by Tony Rezco... or maybe they took up a special offering at church for him.
now THATs and interesting story
January 2, 2009 - 09:17 ET by AJBI read something about how he got elected... one time getting all his opposition disqualified so he was the only candidate. Google it and see what you find...
He did that; he contested
January 2, 2009 - 09:42 ET by motherbeltHe did that; he contested every other candidate and got them removed from the ballot for one reason or another (I think it was the primary). Then he he lucked out when Jack Ryan dropped out because of a personal scandal.
→ Skill - Not Luck
January 2, 2009 - 09:52 ET by Cool ArrowIt was the Obama Camp that filed a motion to have Ryan's divorce papers made public. Papers that showed Ryan had tried to pimp out his wife.
After Ryan was out of the way, Beating Alan Keyes was easy because of his carpetbagger status and staunch religious beliefs.
I have no doubt that you're
January 2, 2009 - 10:14 ET by motherbeltI have no doubt that you're right about Ryan.
mb,
January 2, 2009 - 14:06 ET by R D HelmThe sheeple of this nation are about to find out the hard way that Barack Obama is nothing more than the product of one of the most corrupt political operations in the nation.
The lying, corrupt MSM would have us believe that Obama, supposedly the smartest man on the planet, much of whose history has been effectively erased by his puppeteers, came up amid all that corruption but has somehow managed to remain pure as the wind-driven snow.
You know what they say: Those who live in a democracy (not that we actually are one) get exactly the kind of governmant they deserve.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.”
→ We're desensitized
January 2, 2009 - 09:18 ET by Cool ArrowWe may be desensitized, but we're not immune to the curse Jeremiah Wright spoke against our country.
Wright was not invoking God in vain. He was sincerely calling upon God to destroy us.
NPR just happens to agree with him, that's all.
You're right...just as "God
January 2, 2009 - 10:15 ET by motherbeltYou're right...just as "God bless America" is a request, so is "God damn America.....for killing innocent people...."
Obama Senate Seat and Alice Palmer
January 2, 2009 - 09:24 ET by Retired GeekDuring the Cold War, Palmer supported the Soviet Union and spoke against the United States.
In the 1980s she served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group (and which was an affiliate of the World Peace Council, an international Soviet front).
In the mid-1990s, Palmer attended a number of political meetings at the Chicago-area home of her friends and ideological allies, former Weatherman terrorists Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn.
At those gatherings, Palmer developed a friendly relationship with another attendee, a young aspiring politician named Barack Obama.
As Palmer prepared to leave the state senate and run for the US Congress, she hand-picked Barack Obama as the person she most wanted to fill her newly vacated senate seat.
Toward that end, she introduced Obama to party elders and donors as her preferred successor, and helped him gather the signatures required for getting his name placed on the ballot.
Alice Palmer was defeated in the Congressional race and asked Barack Obama to withdraw from the race for her former Senate seat.
Obama refused to withdraw so she ran against him and gathered the necessary signatures on her petition.
Obama promptly challenged the legitimacy of those signatures and charged Palmer with fraud.
A subsequent investigation found that a number of the names on Palmer’s signature list were invalid, thus she was knocked off the ballot.
“I liked Alice Palmer a lot, I thought she was a good public servant." Barack Obama
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Barack Obama will discard anyone when he is finished using them. I wonder how he would have treated her if he didn't like her?
Hypocrite
January 2, 2009 - 10:19 ET by littlemissmuffinObama promptly challenged the legitimacy of those signatures and charged Palmer with fraud.
BHO can challenge legitimacy and yet not show his true birth certificate? Who is the bigger fraud? I think we all know who.
Remembering little Caylee Anthony (2005-2008). May justice be served.
Makes you wonder what he
January 2, 2009 - 14:42 ET by UtherpendMakes you wonder what he plans to do to America when he is done with it.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you."
No surprise
January 2, 2009 - 09:26 ET by MichelleCRidley agrees with Wright so is it a surprise that he would think Wright is a "nontroversy?" However, Mr. Ridley, Wright is still a controversy to those of us who find his remarks disgusting, but you wouldn't care about that now would you?
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
MichelleC: Twenty five
January 2, 2009 - 09:36 ET by BDMichelleC:
Twenty five years ago while I was in college I worked at an NPR afiliate radio station to pay my way through college. The culture at the station was relentlessly leftists (Yay Sandinista, boo Contra etc) and it got to the point it was just a huge echo chamber.
I was in Army ROTC at the time and my "Stationmates" remarked how I was the only one they had ever met who had voted for Ronald Reagen. THe two departments were a 1/4 mile apart, yet the radio people had never met anyone who had ever served in the military nor was a republican let alone a conservative.
Since no other viewpoints made it through the door, the Public Radio types just ASSUMED that liberalism was the only way. They were STUNNED when they saw the Anti-Sandinista vote in Nicaragua in the first free and fair elections - and secretly assumed the evil US military engineered it somehow.
NPR just needs to go away...
BD
January 2, 2009 - 10:02 ET by MichelleCOh, I believe it. I've run across people with the same mind-set and I'm always astonished (I should be used to it!) at their ignorance of other viewpoints. Unfortunately, NPR is probably going to be sticking around...at our expense.
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
That was the whole point of
January 2, 2009 - 10:18 ET by motherbeltThat was the whole point of Bernard Goldberg's first book, "Bias."
He said that liberals can go months or years without ever hearing an opinion contrary to their own. So they think that is the prevailing or "normal" view.
Tell Bernie to come on down
January 3, 2009 - 00:14 ET by JerTell Bernie to come on down to Georgia. He'll be in hog heaven.
Jer
Not at an NPR afiliate in
January 3, 2009 - 10:53 ET by BDNot at an NPR afiliate in Athens GA he will not. It will still be overwhelmingly liberal with no conservatives on staff.
BD... You mean there is a
January 3, 2009 - 19:24 ET by JerBD...
You mean there is a black-out of conservative talk radio in Athens? There is virtually no other kind available in Atlanta.
[Anyway, I was referring more to my interaction with fellow citizens, rather than media content. That was my interpretation of Goldberg's point.]
Jer
There is: a) a total black
January 3, 2009 - 19:44 ET by BDThere is: a) a total black out of federally funded conservative talkers on NPR, b) but commercially their message cleans the clocks of the federally funded liberal crap.
Hmmm...
January 2, 2009 - 10:26 ET by AJBA broadcast company that relies heavily on hand-outs, who can't compete in the marketplace leftists? Really? Say it ain't so, Joe!
Funny how that 'nontroversy'
January 2, 2009 - 09:38 ET by eaglewingz08Funny how that 'nontroversy' cost Obama around ten straight state primary contests after Rev Wright's sermons were revealed. If we had had a better candidate, Obama would have been mincemeat in the General Election. Instead we got a candidate who kept saying how qualified Obama was and kept digging his own grave. Only Gov Palin made it a close race.
In What Context is Mentor Wrights Remarks Appropriate?
January 2, 2009 - 09:40 ET by Retired GeekI post on several websites and the debate on 'Mentor Wrights' declaration - 'God Damn America' - was always defended by saying it was taken out of context.
My question was always and still is - in exactly what context would Barack Obama's chosen 'Mentor' and spiritual guide and his comments - be appropriate.
The usual reply was 'Mentor Wright' and his comments could only be understood by those who had suffered from racism.
'Mentor Wright' required all new members of TUCC to read Dr. James Cones writings:
"Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. It is a symbol of man's depravity. God cannot be white, even though white churches have portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this country, we can see clearly what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers." - James H. Cone; Black Theology & Black Power; 150
"It was because of these newfound understandings (at Trinity under Wright) -- that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity...and be baptized." Barack Obama
the debate on 'Mentor
January 2, 2009 - 10:23 ET by motherbeltthe debate on 'Mentor Wrights' declaration - 'God Damn America' - was always defended by saying it was taken out of context.
When people say that, they have don't have the foggiest idea what "taken out of context" means.
Your tax dollars support NPR
January 4, 2009 - 02:21 ET by AndanteSo, NPR tells us that a US president elect who spent 20 years listening to a man who calls on God to damn America is no big deal?...oook.
NPR thinks it's just fine that Obama didn't have the courage to get off his socialist butt and tell Write to stfu or walk out at the very least. Worse, Zero probably agrees with Write and now he will be President and CIC of America. Please excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall.
Is there some box I can uncheck so that my tax dollars don't go to NPR?
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
...said in the privacy of a black church..
January 2, 2009 - 10:37 ET by krendlerHow dare Jeremiah Wright say the bigoted, hurtful things in the privacy of a black church that men of God like Pat Robertson, John Hagee, and the late Jerry Falwell said in public?
This dope Ridley contends that Wright's racist rantings from the pulpit in front of a large congregation (and subsequently included on the church's DVD) are statements that were made "in private"? Oh, OK (Do I really need to read the rest after stupidity like that?)
BTW, if, back on planet earth, they had actually been made in "in private" (let's say, spoken to Barry and Miss "Never Been Proud of my country...until Barack came along" over dinner) that somehow makes it better?
Good morning krendler
January 2, 2009 - 10:43 ET by cocodrieDon't hookers work in the privacy of street corners?
HEY NATIONAL PUBIC HAIR RADIO...
January 2, 2009 - 12:43 ET by BobAnthonyI worked for you idiots 10 years ago. You want to talk Nontroversy, I got two words for you...
BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!!!
The Constitution is NOT a conspiracy theory and the founding fathers are NOT conspiracy theorists!
MSM and NPR respond...
January 2, 2009 - 13:23 ET by Andante"Racist"
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"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
This controversy over
January 2, 2009 - 13:42 ET by TailgunnerThis controversy over Obama's birth certificate may be unjustified.
Chances are Obama has a US passport. Most of us know that an original birth certificate is required to obtain one.
Back when Obama applied, if he did, he was a relative unknown for whom no one would have gone out of their way in a political sense.
Obama's birth certificate would have been scrutinized just as thoroughly as any other passport applicant.
We condemned Obama for using the rules instead of the issues to knock his Senate opponents off the ballot.
Obama's the President. I don't like it, either, but there it is.
(I'm sure that enough of his past, present and future scandals will surface to limit his effectiveness, anyway.)
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Chances are Obama has a US
January 2, 2009 - 15:10 ET by Dan The Man 2Chances are Obama has a US passport. Most of us know that an original birth certificate is required to obtain one. You miss an important point, the BC has to state/indicate the birth was live in the USA. Any yahoo can get a passport and even show a false BC. One does not have to be born in teh USA to get a passport.
The very idea of Obama not producing a BC when asked by SCOTUS is appalling. Or really anytime any authority asks there should be one on file for public viewing. An authentic one no fakes or reproductions.
The fact taht he has not produced one, to me, tears teh very core of teh qualifications for being President of the USA. Until Obama produces a BC that is authenticated by a legitimate source then I will not recognize Obama as the President of the USA. LOL, not taht it matters to some or even most people as they will accept him.
The emperor has no clothes.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
I don't think you
January 2, 2009 - 19:24 ET by TailgunnerI don't think you understood my point.
Obama's original birth certificate, which he must have submitted with his passport application, would have been scrutinized by experienced federal officials familiar with forgeries and fakes.
No one at that time would have issued Obama a passport based on an incomplete, forged or altered birth certificate. No chance.
You're free to continue your bullheaded conviction that some shadowy cabal arranged matters 'way back when' so that an unknown illegitimate candidate would become President. The rest of us are also free to consider you equally as unhinged as the 9/11 'truthers'.
(The one thing I can not tolerate, and must respectfully ask you to change, is your irritating tendency to transpose 'teh' and 'taht' and use webspeak like 'LOL'. A little more literacy, please? ;))
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Tailgunner
January 2, 2009 - 19:35 ET by sherylsimsI understand that there is a slight possibility that he HAS a birth certificate that states that he was born in Hawaii. But if that is the case, then there MUST be something else he is hiding to be so stubborn as to keep it sealed. (Personally, I don't believe he was born in Hawaii, but I don't think I am like the 911 "truthers" at all.) I just want to know why he is being so secretive if he was born in Hawaii, because he is definately hiding SOMETHING.
If Obama had an original
January 2, 2009 - 19:46 ET by TailgunnerIf Obama had an original birth certificate genuine enough to pass State Department passport officials' scrutiny at a time when no one knew this guy's name, that should put to rest all but the most diehard conspiracy theorists' claims that O's BC is phony.
I'm not sticking up for Obama. I hope his deeds catch up to him and he is duly impeached. But at some point in time, even the most dogged holdouts must throw up their hands and say, 'OK, that's it'. Otherwise they turn themselves into caricatures like the 'truthers' or those who used to claim that 'fluoridation' of drinking water was a Communist plot.
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I WILL REPEAT MYSELF
January 2, 2009 - 22:24 ET by choselife3xGive me a logical reason for his birth certificate to be sealed.
(you can be DAMN sure HE has one)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Give me a logical reason to
January 3, 2009 - 11:04 ET by TailgunnerGive me a logical reason to demand it.
You have no reason to suspect that Obama is not a natural born citizen. However, some of you have taken this position anyway and then used as evidence to support it Obama's refusal to disprove it.
What makes this reasoning any different than Andrew Sullivan's absurd claim that Trig Palin was not Bristol's daughter, but Sarah's?
Sullivan made this claim without evidence then demanded Palin disprove it. When she did disprove it, Sullivan merely raised more questions...which kept alive a completely unfounded smear job for months.
Failure to disprove a claim is not proof of its truthfulness.
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I second that BFF
January 2, 2009 - 19:49 ET by choselife3xSo much for a 'new level of transparency in government'.
Why would he go to such lengths to seal everything if he had nothing to hide? Not logical.
Pay no attention to the mulatto behind the curtain.......
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
We are faced with two
January 2, 2009 - 20:15 ET by TailgunnerWe are faced with two possible realities:
One, that Obama is a natural born US citizen in possession of a genuine birth certificate which has already withstood federal scrutiny.
Two, that Obama is not a natural born US citizen who has somehow, for no known reason, been provided by someone with the motivation and authority to order violations of law, with a forged birth certificate good enough to withstand federal scrutiny, but will instantly be spotted as a forgery as soon as certain citizens of the blogosphere are allowed to cast their eyes upon it.
The plotting and scheming of these Machiavellian conspirators will then be exposed and their protege, Obama, will shamefacedly step down and slink back into the Chicago slime.
Which is more credible?
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
gunner can i have door number
January 2, 2009 - 20:25 ET by porpoiseboythree? ;-)
obviously for some logic does NOT trump fun. and it is fun to imagine the whole birth ceritficate thing being true. but like i said b4, it takes a little away from the indisputable arguments against him. though again...the stuff on youtube is pretty fun!
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Tailgunner
January 2, 2009 - 20:41 ET by choselife3xGive me a logical reason for it to be sealed.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
tgunner...even more to the point is
January 2, 2009 - 19:39 ET by porpoiseboythat even if someone COULD HAVE forged bho's birth certificate and used those documents in procuring an illegal passport....they didn't. the pure odds of such unlikely circumstances all coming together to culminate in the election of an inelegible candidate to the office of potus are at least in the "struck by lightening" catagory. worst is, that if this takes even a speck of attention away from the real, current, and irrefutable arguments against his ability to lead this country, then it is at the very least counterproductive.....and of course at the most, just plain crazy.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
If Obama was able to
January 2, 2009 - 19:49 ET by R D HelmIf Obama was able to produce a legit BC in order to obtain a U.S.passport (and I have more than one friend who wasn't born here and who currently carry a U.S. passport) then he should have little or no trouble producing one to show that he does, in fact, meet the constitutional requirements to actually occupy the office he was elected to.
The fact that he has spent confiscatory amounts of money to keep from having to do so is becoming a concern to more and more people.
"Conspiracy theory" or not, the burden of proof here is on Barack Hussein Obama, and so far he has been unwilling, or unable, to provide it.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
If we accept that Obama
January 2, 2009 - 20:02 ET by TailgunnerIf we accept that Obama satisfied the requirements of the US Department of State for issuance of his passport, and no one has yet suggested this was not the case, then what is the point of demanding the presentation of that same obviously genuine birth certificate again? What does it accomplish?
Either Obama's birth certificate was accepted as genuine by experienced officials, or there was some high ranking executive intervention that resulted in the issuance of a passport based on a forged birth certificate.
And as far as I know, no one has yet raised that possibility...they probably know they risk being laughed off NewsBusters.
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I was adopted at the age of four weeks.
January 2, 2009 - 20:36 ET by R D HelmYet, if required to do so, I could easily produce my legit BC in a matter of minutes.
Were you present when this BC of his was presented to the people in the passport office? The fact that Obama carries a U.S. passport does not prove he is a natural born citizen. All it means is that he has a U.S. passport.So does my neighbor across the street, who was born in Australia and lived there until he was 23.
Why would PEBO be spending so much money in an effort to have to keep from producing his?
Is it because he was actually born somewhere other than here? Is it due to the possiblility that his true father isn't who we all have been told it was?
If Obama has nothing to hide, why has his actuall BC not yet been produced? He has had two years to come up with it.
Obama didn't run for and win the office of Dog Catcher. He won the office of POTUS, which has the most stringent constitutional requirements of any elected office in this country.
It would seem to me that asking the person elected to such an important office to at least demonstrate they meet the requirements our founders laid out for such a position is entirely reasonable.
To date, the only document put out by Obama's handlers, a so-called certificate of live birth, was proven to be a forgery within hours, if not minutes, of its release.
Sorry, but I want to see proof that this man is legally able to hold the office he was eleted to, as I am not interested in taking his word for it.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
Beautifully put Dave...you
January 2, 2009 - 20:36 ET by bigtimerBeautifully put Dave...you spoke volumes for me too, as you well know by my previous posts/links over the months.
Thank you.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
sucks to have to defend anything about bho
January 2, 2009 - 20:43 ET by porpoiseboybut so now you're saying that those who have had the certificate produced for them.....as well as the state of hawaii....are part of the conspiracy? let's get on to more meaty issues.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
porb... Oh, I see, so the
January 2, 2009 - 20:58 ET by bigtimerporb...
Oh, I see, so the likes of Amy Hollyfield, The St. Petersburg Times and Politifacts declare this...we are supposed to forget about it....and agree?
ROFLMAO!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
just to be polite BT
January 2, 2009 - 21:12 ET by porpoiseboyi will answer you. you seem very bitter about the shi++y job conservatives did getting a decent candidate to win against a completely unqualified, extremely liberal, man of questionable moralities and politics. i am not going to post on this subject anymore as it is a complete waste of time. to spend this much time posting on it makes you start sounding like the "bush stole the election and is NOT my president" ilk that i got very, very sick of the last 8yrs. like it or not, after the 20th bho WILL be your president unless you plan on giving up your U.S. citizenship. in the mean time you saying he's not does not change fact. you seem to have alot going for you, why don't you use it for something constructive?
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Here's contsructive
January 2, 2009 - 21:25 ET by bigtimerHere's contsructive porpoise.
I advise you to take 13 minutes of your life to listen.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Something constructive....
January 2, 2009 - 21:34 ET by choselife3xMaybe.....uh, NOT wasting perfectly good bandwidth defending a monstrous, socialist, lazy@ss never held a real job, uses people and throws them under the bus, lets babies die in hospital closets, lowlife piece of trash, waste of space seat warmer named BARKKY!
*h/t Jayke*
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
cl3x... Ditto. "America
January 2, 2009 - 21:39 ET by bigtimercl3x...
Ditto.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
That is not a BC, it is a Certificate of Live Birth...
January 2, 2009 - 21:10 ET by R D Helm...which proves exactly squat, especially when said document is a proven forgery.
Sorry, but PEBO will have to do better than that.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
Proven
January 3, 2009 - 11:41 ET by TailgunnerProven forgery?
'Techdude' is an anonymous person claiming, (without documentation) to be an expert, drawing uncorroborated conclusions about official documents released by third parties.
If this guy was certifying to the genuineness of Obama's BC you'd be screaming bloody murder.
Plus he's receiving 'threats'. (a dead rabbit?) Probably from the same Machiavellian secret society that originally fabricated the BC, forced some poor State Department functionary to issue an illegal passport, and is now closing ranks to prevent the unraveling of their worldwide, years-long effort to install an unqualified person into the White House for--what?
Pretty thin stuff. But hey, knock yourselves out. I'm done.
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
The bogus bogus birth certificate issue
January 2, 2009 - 21:09 ET by JerSure porpoiseboy...
That article appears authentic, but it seems to be just a little too factual, too well researched, and demands the exercise of a little too much common sense. And who is this Amy Hollyfield [the article's author]? Is that her real name? Let's see her birth certificate. Maybe she's a relative of Obama, or maybe she's even a paid agent of Muslim extremists. Lots of conspiracy theories yet to be peddled.
Jer
Jer
January 2, 2009 - 21:24 ET by choselife3xSo tell me....
Why do YOU think all his records are sealed?
Also, how does the fact that they are sealed reflect upon his clarion call for 'a new transparency in government'?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
chose,
January 2, 2009 - 21:53 ET by R D HelmIts like when Muhammed wrote the Qur'an. It was one set of rules for him, and an entirely different set of rules for everybody else.
LOL-Think of it as the 7th-Century version of Do as I say, not as I do.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
choselife...
January 2, 2009 - 22:10 ET by JerThe article linked by porpoiseboy provides, in my view, a reasonable analysis of, and answers to, the questions raised regarding the birth certificate issue.
With respect to a candidate's or elected President's college transcript and theses, I have never viewed such documents--or high school grades, or papers written as a teenager, or SAT or I.Q. scores--to be particularly relevant or vital information for the American public to possess, and have little or nothing to do with governmental transparency.
Jer
So the fact that ALL
January 2, 2009 - 22:19 ET by choselife3xHis records, ALL OF THEM, are sealed doesn't set off any little alarm bells in your brain?
If this were a Republican in the same circumstances would you still think it had no relevance? Cause I sure as hell would. I don't care who you are, if you cover something up, that means you don't want it seen.
What does he NOT WANT us to see?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
choselife...
January 2, 2009 - 22:28 ET by JerYou'll need to be a touch more specific than "His records, ALL OF THEM".
Regarding your second question, I stated my opinion in my preceding post, and I didn't differentiate between Republicans and Democrats.
Jer
more specific
January 2, 2009 - 22:47 ET by choselife3x1. See Above
a. Also, his medical records. Bush released his, the media demanded Palin release hers (which she did). Obama produced a note from his doctor.
2. Look into his past and tell us what you can find.
(scrabble game starts at 11:00, knock three times and say 'the sunlight glistened on his chiselled pecs')
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
1. See Above Above
January 2, 2009 - 23:13 ET by Jer1. See Above
Above what?
a. Also, his medical records. Bush released his, the media demanded Palin release hers (which she did). Obama produced a note from his doctor.
I agree. They should be released.
2. Look into his past and tell us what you can find.
It's much more interesting to watch all of you Nostradami look into his future and make the gloom and doom predictions.
(I need to brush up on my Scrabble proficiency. I was watching the annual tournament on ESPN a couple of months ago, and it seems like there have been a lot of two letter words added to the English language. Afterwards, prepare yourself for a good whipping...and maybe a game of Scrabble, too.)
Jer
above.....
January 2, 2009 - 23:23 ET by choselife3xMy post above. With the list. Of sealed records.
My husband broke 'qat' out on me last night. He happened to see it in the rulebook! Got over 30 points with that one. (I still beat him, but it was close :))
This tired conservative WASP is going to cuddle her baby boy (12 weeks old today!) and go ni-ni.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
"My post above. With the
January 3, 2009 - 00:40 ET by Jer"My post above. With the list. Of sealed records."
Sorry to belabor the point. The only list of yours I can locate. Is below. Not above. But maybe. I overlooked it? Jer
Jer
January 3, 2009 - 10:49 ET by choselife3xIt's above on my screen.:)
I just find the media's utter disinterest in the sealed records and shady associations of the man, well, mind-boggling.
You know they'd be a lot more curious about a Republican.
Remember when they dug up the 'Todd Palin was arrested once for drunk driving 22 years ago!' story?
But Obama telling a reporter last January that he intended to 'bankrupt the coal industry' is 'old news' by October.
Disgusting.
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Meaty issues
January 2, 2009 - 22:27 ET by choselife3xWhy is his birth certificate sealed?
Why are his college transcripts sealed?
Why is his college thesis sealed?
What do people like Rezko, Kalidi, Ayers/Dorhn, and Wright see in this man?
How did Blago KNOW Obama would give him nothing but 'appreciation'?
What did Obama mean by saying he would establish a Civilian National Security Force?
Does he still intend to bankrupt the coal industry?
Will he make abortions free and available on demand from any hospital like he promised?
Is he going to spread the wealth to all the clinging to guns and religion people, or just the clinging to guns and drugs people?
Will Michelle Obama be proud of her country when she moves into the White House?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
"To date, the only
January 3, 2009 - 10:49 ET by Tailgunner"To date, the only document put out by Obama's handlers, a so-called certificate of live birth, was proven to be a forgery within hours, if not minutes, of its release."
I'm sure you'll understand if I ask for a link to substantiate that, please.
LIBERALS LIE, ALL THE TIME, ABOUT EVERYTHING.
I agree RD
January 2, 2009 - 20:10 ET by sherylsimsThe burdon of proof is on Obama, and since he has failed to meet with even the small requirements that were imposed on him it seems like SOMEONE in the judicial arm of the government would have something to say about it. I think the 'natural born citizen' part isn't a requirement for a passport, so he could have a legitimate passport from back before nobody knew who he was (based on the certificate of birth that his mother got when she arrived in Hawaii and registered him.) I am not saying this is what happened. I don't know what happened. I guess only Obama knows, and he ain't telling. But all this continues to just get passed by. Nobody wants to be the one to make it an issue because they don't want to look like wack-os. I just think if he has proof he should produce it. It is suspicious that he won't.
Evening
January 2, 2009 - 20:51 ET by bigtimerEvening sheryl...
Here'a LINK...with links inside.
Have others too...you may already know about this, just thought I would throw it out here for others who don't.
Matters not...it's a done deal.
...but it sure as hell will always matter to me, I will never address O as Pres. for this very reason.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
HI Bigtimer
January 2, 2009 - 21:03 ET by sherylsimsI am pretty much over my disgust and disappointment over the whole birth certificate issue. I used to get angry but that doesn't do any good. I firmly believe in a God who has a good plan for His children. For those who aren't His children, I also believe that His holiness demands judgement. That's how I get through all this. It is just all part of the big picture. Now I am going to go look at the link you gave me. Thank you.
I have also done the same
January 2, 2009 - 21:15 ET by bigtimerI have also done the same thing too sheryl, it's a done deal.
It is a shame that is shown to our Constitution though and those who are responsibly for following and applying...especially the highest office in this land.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hey bt, why don't we just go ahead and burn the Constitution?
January 2, 2009 - 21:32 ET by R D HelmAfter all, if we continue cutting its corners the way we have been as a nation, there isn't going to be anything left of it soon, anyway.
That would make a lot of people happy, actually. For a while, anyway.
LOL-There is something on PEBO's original BC that he doesn't want us to see, and he is spending piles of cash in an effort to keep us from seeing it.
My question is, why?
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
Why Dave...it's a Living
January 2, 2009 - 21:36 ET by bigtimerWhy Dave...it's a Living Constitution don't ya' know?
About your last question, where is the clamoring, demanding, let alone probing from the majority of the msm to have O release his college info?
For me, that should answer what you are asking.
In other words, same difference.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, If Obama had an "R" at the end of his name...
January 2, 2009 - 21:48 ET by R D Helm...right after the first time he refused to release his actual BC, there would have been multiple plane-loads of reporters and attorneys on their way to Hawaii with armloads of pre-printed Freedom of Information Act requests.
I personally think the reason that no one from the MSM has pressed the issue on this is because they are afraid of what might actually turn up.
I am not saying one way or the other whether he was or was not born here, or who his actual father may or may not have been, but it just seems strange to me that, if he truly has nothing to hide, why is he so reluctant to produce the document that every single other living American citizen could easily produce if asked to do so.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
RD
January 2, 2009 - 21:57 ET by SvenI personally think the reason that no one from the MSM has pressed the issue on this is because they are afraid of what might actually turn up.
While I agree with you about the Drive-bys appalling (yet very predictable) coverage of The One, this doesn't answer why the GOP didn't persue this issue?!?!
We expect this Shi@ from the media, but where in God's name have our elected Republicans been?
My view is, discipline must first start with our own party! They are very culpable for this lack of inquiry!
Hi Sven... I could not
January 2, 2009 - 22:09 ET by bigtimerHi Sven...
I could not agree more and have stated as such numerous times, it has been past disgusting, since McC banished, disciplined real conservatives in the GOP all over this country in various venues, using the msm as his bully-pulpit, thinking it would gain him support with voters to run a RESPECTFUL campaign, the majority of fools have remained silence..like polite little GOP critters...or agreed with him.
...and people wonder why we keep losing the right side of the aisle...give me a break.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hi bt,Indeed!I've
January 2, 2009 - 22:17 ET by SvenHi bt,
Indeed!
I've started putting this into practice: Had a dude from the RNC call me wanting a contribution, and I gave him an earfull!
I basically told them they won't get one red cent from me until they begin suppoerting conservatives, and stop proping up RINOS like McCpain-in-the A$$!
He asked me who I thought the RNC should support. I said Jindal, Palin etc. i told him we need "new blood" in the GOP, who aren't ashamed of their conservative values!
When these people stop receiving needed funds, maybe then they'll understand the outrage.
Sven... You're right on
January 2, 2009 - 22:21 ET by bigtimerSven...
You're right on the $$$!
Btw... I also have had calls, snail mail and email regarding this issue...I say what I think too.
Hopefully someone is listening, time will tell.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, Time will tell, but I
January 2, 2009 - 22:27 ET by Svenbt,
Time will tell, but I think this is how stuff starts getting done. When people like you and me, and the other NBs start telling these clowns what we think, AND CUTTING their precious contributions!
I think this will have the Pavlovian condtioning theory: they'll associate their support of RINOS and MODERATES with loss of $$$ ;-)
Sven,
January 2, 2009 - 22:24 ET by R D Helmthis doesn't answer why the GOP didn't persue this issue?!?!
Spinelessness. Pure and simple.
A lot of people, and that includes a lot of supposed conservatives, think that this issue has been raised by people that simply want to keep Obama out of the White House. To a large extent, that is probably true.
Problem is, if Obama takes the Oath of Office and starts signing bills into law, say, for a couple of years, then it turns out he is not legally eligible to hold the office of POTUS, have people not given any thought to what this would mean?
Every single bill he signed, and every executive order he issued, would then be nullified. Maybe it would happen all at once, or it might take years as things wind through our already over-crowded federal court system. Either way, the damage to this country would be substantial.
Why risk that for lack of Barack Hussein Obama hitting the records building one morning on his way to the golf course, plunking down his twelve dollars, and handing the copy to reporters as he heads out the door to go play a round?
Seems simple enough to me.
-Dave
“Them that’s going get on the wagon. Them that ain’t get out of the way.” -Because enough is enough.
RD,Oh, I completely
January 2, 2009 - 22:54 ET by SvenRD,
Oh, I completely agree with you...without a doubt! The potential damage this creep can do is very scary. And to think our worthless media did nada to investigate it has me steaming!
But, media are what they are...
Fact remains, the GOP has shown NO leadership. The Dems and the Media smell the fear that these spinless Republicans project! I want to know where our Representatives and Senators were when this issue was bubbling to the surface?
They're supposed to represent us and to uphold the law! They did neither! If this guy is found to be a fraudulent citizen, then all of the Senators and Congress men and women should be held accountable!
These people are supposed to know the law for cryin' out loud!
John Who?
January 2, 2009 - 15:06 ET by Kirk TurnerI am not familiar with man, this "Ridley." Who cares what he says? No one knows who he is.
Top Ten Nontroversies
January 2, 2009 - 19:40 ET by choselife3xIt'd be funny, if it weren't so irritating. http://www.worldnetd...
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
those pesky missing files
January 3, 2009 - 00:18 ET by AndanteWhen she was running for POTUS we heard nothing from Hillary's attack dogs regarding the BC. I'm guessing they dug into it and found nothing there or, they missed a golden opportunity. Maybe she lost the file ;-)
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