Washington Post Spreads Clinton's Angry Dose of 'Hey Diddle Diddle'

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Washington Post reporter Peter Baker penned a story on Bill Clinton for Friday’s front page. The Post website summarized: "Former president promotes wife’s candidacy while trying to set the record straight on his own tenure." Set the record straight? That’s what Baker wrote in his article: "As Clinton travels the country campaigning for his wife with characteristic intensity, he is fighting not only to promote Hillary Rodham Clinton’s candidacy but also set the record straight on the two terms he spent in the White House." Does Clinton have the credibility to "set the record straight" when he has a long record of public lying, even lying in court?

Baker’s front-pager promoted Clinton’s long-standing pique with independent counsel Ken Starr:

"Ken Starr spent $70 million and indicted innocent people to find out that I wouldn't take a nickel to see the cow jump over the moon," he told the students last week, his eyes narrowing and his finger jabbing the air.

At another point, he complained that the investigations during his White House days virtually bankrupted him: "The Republicans were so mean to me when I was president that I was poorer when I left than when I got there."

Baker’s story is far too polite to correct Clinton's angry dose of "Hey Diddle Diddle." He couldn't note Clinton quickly left office and scored a $12 million book advance and began making tens of millions of dollars from making speeches around the world. Baker’s story is also too polite to recall for readers that Ken Starr indicted – and convicted of multiple felonies – Jim and Susan McDougal, who were business partners with Bill and Hillary Clinton in the failed Whitewater Development real-estate venture. (Overall, Starr’s team convicted or drew guilty pleas from 14 people in the Clinton scandals.) This Post story did noting to "set the record straight." It merely let Clinton characterize it in the way most to his liking.

Baker’s story reported Clinton is trying to "win the referendum" on how people see the Clinton years. But the Post isn’t about to report the other side of that historical battle – that Starr had important investigations to conduct, and President Clinton tried to lie his way out of them. Perhaps Peter Baker should reacquaint himself with some of the earlier history of the Clinton years, from someone he trusts. How about Peter Baker, in his book on the Clinton impeachment titled The Breach, page 264?

The largely unspoken secret among his lawyers was that even they believed Clinton had lied under oath in the Paula Jones deposition. As attorneys, they could make the case that his testimony about Monica Lewinsky was not material to the lawsuit and therefore did not constitute perjury as defined by federal statute. But they knew as well as anyone that the president did not tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Greg Craig, for one, could understand how Clinton might not have understood the definition of sexual relations used at the deposition because even the judge appeared confused. However, Craig believed the president’s assertion that he had no specific recollection of being alone with Lewinsky was a bald-faced lie. There was no getting around that.

But now, Peter Baker and the Washington Post find it very easy to get around that. Baker’s story underlines how the Post and other liberal outlets have almost no desire to spend a minute or a paragraph recounting the 1990s and the hard facts of the Clinton scandals: convictions, guilty pleas, prison terms, and so on. Inside they skid, slide, and maneuver around those facts. Instead, Baker fills his story with the same old fiercely loyal Clinton friends who consistently spew the Clinton hard line, whining about the injustice meted out by the radical Republicans:

Collectively, his recent comments echo the feeling of victimization he often expressed when he was president. "I don't think he spends a lot of time thinking about the Whitewater investigation and the special prosecutor and all that. I don't think that crosses his mind much at all," said [high school girlfriend Carolyn] Staley, who sees Clinton regularly when he visits Little Rock. "But I think he now thinks he understands injustice because he was treated so unfairly. When you're singled out for persecuting, trumped up -- as he would view it and many would agree -- and politically motivated set of events, you never forget that."

Another old Arkansas friend, David Leopoulos, said Clinton is able to put his experiences in perspective. "Yeah, he was hurt," Leopoulos said. "But you know what? How hurt was he? They impeached him, and his approval rating was 67 percent when he was impeached. The American people aren't stupid."

Leopoulos recalled talking with Clinton in the White House solarium two weeks before he left office in January 2001 and asking how he felt. "David, I don't hate anybody," he recalled Clinton answering. "I knew it would be tough when I got in. I didn't know it would be as radical as it's been, but I knew it would be tough. And I love this place and I wouldn't do it any differently. I would do it again in a heartbeat."

Baker just lets that statement lie there on the page. If Bill could do it all over again, he would have sex with the intern all over again? Lie in court about it all over again? How is that supposed to please the liberal reporters and the Democratic Clinton-excusers? Apparently, that’s unnecessary. They don’t need to be pleased. They keep doing his bidding regardless of whether he shows regret or changes his ways.

By the way, Peter Baker’s story is nothing like Patrick Healy’s in the New York Times, who suggested the issue wasn’t the Clinton legacy, but Clinton’s long-festering temper (not just his "characteristic intensity") erupting:

Mr. Clinton’s temper has been an issue for him as long as he has been in public life. But it has played an unusual role during the current campaign, his face turning red in public nearly every week, often making headlines as he defends his wife and injects himself, whether or not intentionally, into her race in sometimes distracting ways.

Some Clinton advisers say the campaign is trying to rein him in somewhat, so that his outbursts become less of a factor to reporters, but his flashes of anger only seem to be growing. Last week, for instance, a clearly agitated Mr. Clinton told Dartmouth students that it was a "fairy tale" for Mr. Obama to contend that he had been consistently against the war in Iraq. And in December he said that voters supporting Mr. Obama were willing to "roll the dice" on the presidency.

"The bottom line is, his outbursts don’t help the campaign," said James A. Thurber of American University, an analyst of the presidency and Congress. "They become an issue, and it can grow into a real problem. I think the campaign is worried about him right now."

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center


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Bill Clinton looks like he is going to have a massive coronary

I was looking at a screen grab of Bill blowing up at some event as he seems to blow up at every event he goes to and this guy just looks old, weak, quite flushed and a candidate for a massive heart attack as he is always on edge pissed off to the max about something.

I sit here laughing though as "Bill campaigns" and once again it is not about his Hamrod, but all about Bill again.

I would never want those raping homicidal treasonous adulterers ever in the position of power again, but it would be absolutely hillarious to see Bill going crazy like Teddy Kennedy on a binge as Hillary got the the limelight and Bill would like a 4 year old he is doing things to grab attention.

This guy would not be able to handle being first lady and those jokes would really set off the purple rage in him.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Do you think...

Do you think that Hilary might push Bill's health to gain a sympathy vote imitating John Edwards and his wife?

"Today ex-president Bill Clinton went into the hospital complaining of chest pains causing Hilary's polls to shoot up. ...."

This is too easy.

"Yeah, he was hurt," Leopoulos said. "But you know what? How hurt was he? They impeached him, and his approval rating was 67 percent when he was impeached. The American people aren't stupid."

Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who didn't. - Ben Franklin

GOD Forbid!

That we soon have Madam President and the First Letcher.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

Peter Baker and all his ilk

Peter Baker and all his ilk can see through the rose-colored glasses they wear all they want...

It doesn't change facts with history when it comes to the Clintoons...try as they all might...

The Bill and Hill Show is going to come to an end soon ...with a mighty healthy helping from Bill himself....

For once I will say keep up the good work Bill...you are actually helping the good guys out here in the real world.

Self-destruction is a beautiful thing to behold when watching the two of them.

For once I will say keep


For once I will say keep up the good work Bill...you are actually helping the good guys out here in the real world.

Amen, bt! I hope he keeps doing what he's been doing; he is reminding everyone of the years we want to forget.

 

is it just me or is Bill

is it just me or is Bill trying to in invoke Ross Perot

"Ken Starr spent $70 million and indicted innocent people to find out that I wouldn't take a nickel to see the cow jump over the moon,"

 

that just sounds very perot-esque

 

"Get off the phone you big dope!!!!!!!!!!" Mark Levin

Scandal after Scandal during the Clinton Years

Now they are out of office they are still involved in scandals..

Norman Hsu... Sandy Berger... What makes people think another Clinton administration will be better?

Clinton, on setting the record straight - what record?

"They impeached him, and his approval rating was 67 percent when he was impeached. The American people aren't stupid."

Ignorant of what is, is not necessarily synonymous with stupid - it was the MSM that made the American people ignorant of what was really going in the world. The WaPost piece continues with its fantasy:

For most of the seven years since then, Clinton has avoided the partisan fray, focusing instead on making money, working to fight HIV/AIDS and climate change, and raising funds for victims of the Asian tsunami and Hurricane Katrina.

The American people thought that he was doing this work while he was president.  Just what did Clinton do to rebuild the midwest reeling from the Great Mississippi Floods of 1994? How successful was Clinton in protecting New Orleans from hurricanes? Had they known the truth - had the US press treated Clinton on the issues they care about, Clinton's approval would have been in the 20's.  Hmm.

"The Nation's" David Corn on President Clinton on global Hiv/Aids: Too little, too late - How many times is Bill Clinton going to apologize to Africa?  .."The prevailing view was, these people should die quietly."

Samatha Power's (Harvard) on Rwanda - Bystanders to Genocide. "As the terror in Rwanda had unfolded, Clinton had shown virtually no interest in stopping the genocide, and his Administration had stood by as the death toll rose into the hundreds of thousands."

US Department of Justice on Campaign fraud and conspiracy to violate federal election laws:   JAMES RIADY PLEADS GUILTY WILL PAY LARGEST FINE IN CAMPAIGN FINANCE HISTORY FOR VIOLATING FEDERAL ELECTION LAW - all of his friends and associates.

Because of Clinton we had prosperity and a balanced budget and surpluses projected as far as the eye could see. Let's quote the progressive side of the isle, leftist economist, Dean Baker:

In a news release issued by the Institute for Public Accuracy on the afternoon of March 16, 2000 (a day when the Nasdaq closed at 4,717.39), Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research said: "The main feature of the 'new economy' is a stock market bubble of unprecedented magnitude. When the bubble bursts, the new economy will just be a bad memory. The inflated stock market has created enormous distortions in the economy, the ramifications of which will only be apparent when stock prices return to more normal levels.

And to follow it up, as it was unfolding, March 13, 2001:

Today, Baker said: "The decline in the stock market was an entirely predictable event for anyone familiar with basic arithmetic, even if the exact timing could not be known in advance. The nation's political leaders chose to ignore the stock market bubble and instead focused their attention on distant and relatively minor problems like potential shortfalls in the Social Security trust fund in 30 or 40 years or the reappearance of budget deficits in a decade or two. As a result, millions of families have seen their dreams of a secure retirement or their children's college education vanish with the stock market bubble. The level of negligence of the nation's political leaders in ignoring the stock bubble exceeds anything since the days of Herbert Hoover."

And on Monica - This interview conducted by Jim Lehear on PBS makes pretty clear that Clinton knew what is, was: "There is no improper relationship"

And Tim - brilliant piece. gh

They impeached him, and his

They impeached him, and his approval rating was 67 percent when he was impeached.

  There's a clinton (media) myth that won't go away in spite of facts.  He never got fifty per cent of the popular vote and hillary (with the help of this hugely popular (sarc.) ex-president) is fighting to outlast a relatively unknown rival.  Plus, his vice-president was unable to win the presidency because of clinton's scandals.

That's a whooole lotta

That's a whooole lotta speculation.

Popular vote at election time does not = approval rating at time of impeachment, but your use of slippery rhetoric was a very nice try.

What evidence is there that Gore's closest-call-in-election-history "defeat" had anything more to do with Clinton's scandals than any number of things regarding Gore's and Bush's respective platforms?

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

"Defeat" in quotes?

You acuse someone of speculation and then put the word 'defeat' in quotes?  Isn't that a bit ironic?

There is plenty of legitimate speculation that Gore (the DNC) actually stole the popular vote and tried to steal the electoral vote.   Either way, Bush won the recounts, and the lie/myth that the Supreme Court appointed Bush as president is just plain wrong.

Although I do agree there was more to Gore's "loss" { ; ) } than just the myriad of Clinton scandals.

mattm,

All that Al Gore had to do was win his home state.

You really have to wonder about a man who cannot even manage that in a presidential election.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

R D...Gore's failure to

R D...Gore's failure to carry his home state of Tennessee was an unusual and noteworthy phenomenon, but the outcome was hardly stunning.  Perhaps he should have campaigned more intensively in the state, but Tennessee had been trending conservative for some time [although Clinton/Gore had won by relatively small margins in '92 and '96].  In any event, it was not altogether shocking Tennessee went for Bush in 2000 in light of its changing political topography.

Jer

Jer,

Good point(s), but if Al Gore had maybe spent a little more time in his home state consolidating his support instead of frittering away all his time in DC rubbing elbows with the elites, the outcome in 2000 might very well have been different.

Remember, Fred Thompson won his Senate seat in Tennessee by doing little more than criss-crossing the state and pressing flesh.

I seem to recall that even Jimmy Carter won his home state of Georgia in the 1980 election, and that was one of only about five or six he managed to win overall. Georgia is historically one of the more conservative states around.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

R D...I think after the

R D...I think after the 2000 election cliffhanger, Gore expressed misgivings about not spending enough time in Tennessee while serving in Congress and the Senate, as well as for not campaigning more vigorously in the state during his presidential run.

I'm not sure if he had overestimated his home state support, or had essentially written off the entire South [except for Fla.] and decided to concentrate his efforts and resources elsewhere.  Bush did in fact make a clean sweeep of the southern states in 2000 and 2004.

Carter is even more difficult to assess.  He was a fairly popular governor who was viewed as a moderate Democrat, and who carried a significant number of southern states in 1976.  Four years, and a failed administration, later, the only southern state he carried was Georgia.  I think it was a combination of the loyalty of his home state, and the fact that Georgia was not nearly as conservative then, or at least not as Republican, as it would later become.

Jer

   Then by your logic

   Then by your logic obama was the REAL winner in New Hampshire because opinion polls had him way ahead.

  But of course clinton's 67% approval rating is another 'fake but accurate' story and they are sticking with it.

  Clinton's high approvals are like bigfoot sightings... there's believers but no physical proof.

MidAmerica...What media

MidAmerica...What media "myth" are you referring to?  50% per cent of the popular vote?  67% approval rating?  Either?  Both?  Some other myth?

Please explain...(and an example of the media's perpetuation of the "myth" would be helpful).

Jer 

The 'myth' is that clinton

The 'myth' is that clinton was ever highly popular and especially the contention he was at a 67% approval rating around the time of his impeachment.  His popularity is always 'discovered' by pollsters but there isn't any election, his or anyone elses that proves he is/was anything other than a marginally admired politician.

  Clinton is a celebrity not a respected leader.

"Ken Starr spent $70 million and indicted innocent people"

Fitzgerald spent $115,000,000.00 and indicted innocent people looking for someone else to blame for the Plame fiasco.

kg...Are you sure you

kg...Are you sure you didn't misplace a decimal point?  I'll try to verify the amount spent by Fitzgerald, but it would be truly shocking if the total is the $115 million you claim.

Jer 

Amount spent by Fitzgerald on Plame investigation

According to the link below, the amount spent as of September, 2006 was $1.5 million; so, if true, you were off by something in excess of $100 million dollars.

http://www.msnbc.com/id/14927533/print/1/displaymode/1098/

Jer

Sorry...having trouble

Sorry...having trouble getting complete link displayed.  Will try to have it posted shortly.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14927533/print/1/displaymode/1098/

Jer

The husband of Broom Hilda

I cannot speak for others, but I take a lot of comfort in the fact that both times this man ran for president, only about four out of ten Americans cast their votes for him.

The other six voted for someone else.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

RD... Let's hope

RD...

Let's hope even less vote for Broom Hilda as you so adequately call her...that is if and I do mean if she even gets to the General Election....lol.

bigtimer,

I was really quite surprised that Gov. Bill Richardson did not fare far better in the campaign. I always considered him to be the most competent person among the democrats.

I think it possible that he may play a role yet again somewhere down the line, as it is possible that both Barack Obama and Broom Hilda just might knock each other out of the running.

The way things are going in this circus of a campaign, both parties might end up facing brokered conventions.

I am having difficulty believing that, at the end of the day, the rank and file democrats are going to want either of the current front runners as their presidential nominee, as, from a national perspective, they are both carrying far too many negatives.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Bill Richardson was always,

I think it possible that he may play a role yet again somewhere down the line,

You're right on that, but not in the way you meant....

Bill Richardson was always, and still is, running for Vice President.

Exactly mb.... That is

Exactly mb....

That is what I was going to post back to RD also.

IMO Richardson is one pathetic politician....I am also remembering what lousy jobs he did in his different roles with the Clintoon Gang.

About Richardson,

Well, when I said he was the most competent among the democrats, I was referring to the fact that he has actually run a state, something that neither Broom Hilda, nor Barack Obama, have actually done. All those two have ever run is their mouths. Now, whether or not Rchardson is running that state into the ground is another matter alltogether.

I agree that he has been angling for VP, but it may not be Barack or Hillary that he will be running with.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

RD... Who is

RD...

Who is left?

Bloomie?

Somebody we haven't heard mentioned yet...what?

I am just curious here...

Yeah, I was wondering the

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Who's going to sweep in when the field is littered with bodies?

Well, there is always Al.

Let's face it, his AGW scam is beginning to unravel. He may be needing something to do in the not too distant future. As kooky as he is, I see him as far more electable than either Barack or Hillary, neither of whom I believe would have a chance in a national election.

If Hillary Clinton gets the nod, the conservatives will come out in droves to vote against her, even if they have to hitch-hike to the polls. Even if the republicans Howdy-Doody. And I am sorry, but there is just no way Barack Obama has a chance, either, no matter how much the MSM tries to shame us into voting for him.

I mean, the man's middle name is Hussein.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Yeah but RD he withdrew

Yeah but RD he withdrew ....I think he is done, know what I mean?

Stick a fork in him done...

Okay, I give up.

I am just trying to come up with something that might keep Broom Hilda and that "apostate" Muslim out of the White House.

LOL- Perhaps I am grasping at straws, but I have to do something.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

I mean, the man's middle


I mean, the man's middle name is Hussein.

You're absolutely right, that is exactly the sort of superficial, dumbs--t thing that the Howdy-Doody types, among others, will hold against him. What was that article about earlier today? Something about how you should never underestimate American intelligence? 

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

Perhaps you are ignorant of

Perhaps you are ignorant of the fact that this country is currently at war with the Islamo-supremacists, who have vowed repeatedly to spread their "religion" by the sword to every part of the known world.

It may very well be that you have not been personally affected by this conflict, in which case you should consider yourself fortunate.

I have had business associates/acquaintances murdered by these people.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Yes, I am aware of that.

Yes, I am aware of that. However, Obama happening to have a middle name that is the same as a deposed dictator's last name is hardly a worthwhile argument against voting for him, unless you are completely incapable of thinking critically. It is exactly the sort of asinine BS that a lot of morons will accept as a legitimate criterion against him. There are plenty of ideological reasons not to vote for Obama, for those who are of a particular political persuasion. I'm talking about the inevitable gaggle of voters who vote based on things like whose tie or haircut is the nicest.

"He was, and is yet, most likely, the wearisomest, self-righteous
pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself
and fling the curses on his neighbors."
-Emily Bronte

Mr. Helm.  There are quite

Mr. Helm.  There are quite a few doctors out there with Middle Eastern names, would you allow that to get in-between you and say, emergency treatment in an ER?

-PJ

Support a policy of fair play in debate. Tell TruthMonger he owes me a steak!

No,but,

If I was in an ER and there were half a dozen doctors I could choose from, I would choose the one with the best training and the most experience. I sure wouldn't choose the one with the least experience and the middle name of Hussein! 

tracheostomy,

I do not wish to derail this thread on the subject of the Islamo-supremacists, but I will say this:

I find myself unable answer your question. As I have not yet experienced that possibility, I have no idea what my reaction might be.

Suffice it to say that this war has cost me much. Aside from the loss of those I mentioned previously, all of whom had families, the devestating financial and material damage I have undergone is still working itself out even today. I have spent over five years working to get back to where I was prior to its beginning. I am not there yet.

I am sorry, but I do not trust Muslims, nor have I forgiven those Muslims who carried out the attacks of 9/11. I realize this may make me a bad person in the eyes of many, and has no-doubt contributed to my overall negative view of the followers of Muhammed, but I do not care. I guess you could say the spirit of forgiveness is not within me at this time.

Perhaps if I were to see those ever-elusive "peaceful" Muslims take to the streets in protest of what the so-called "more extreme elements" of their "religion" are doing, I just might have a change of heart.

As long as they continue to strap bombs to their innocent children and have them kill other innocent children, I will continue to distrust them. Even loath them.

We are at war with the Islamo-supremecists-a war I believe we are currently losing. As long as that is the case, I will look askance at every Muslim I encounter.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

RD HELM:  I find myself

RD HELM:  I find myself unable answer your question. As I have not yet experienced that possibility, I have no idea what my reaction might be. 

No problem with that.  I'm happy that I just got you to hold up for a minute to consider the thought.  

RD HELM:  We are at war with the Islamo-supremecists-a war I believe we are currently losing. As long as that is the case, I will look askance at every Muslim I encounter. 

Shouldn't you first give them an opportunity to at least, um, I dunno. . .take you hostage or something first? 

Heh. 

Don't answer that.  I was being a smartass.  The two of us are standing together at the border between self-preservation and rank bigotry, and I truthfully don't have any answers for you either

My initial question was one from first-hand experience, as the same thoughts have gone through my own mind, especially after reading about those doctors who were arrested in Britain. 

But at the same time, we shouldn't judge a person exclusively according to his name only.  

-PJ

Support a policy of fair play in debate. Tell TruthMonger he owes me a steak!

How about this for positive thinking, RD?

All the liberal politicans and the liberal media are predicting, even hoping for and helping to foment the recession mindset.   Could that backfire on them? 

Who do you call on to fix economic problems?  A successful businessman. 

See anyone like that on the Democrat side? 

See anyone like that on the Republican side?

RJ,

Well, on the democrat side, I see absolutely no one, as all they see when they look at businesses is a cash cow to be raped, pillaged and plundered.

As far as the republicans, I see Fred as the only one, from a pollitical standpoint, who even understands the problems we currently face. Mitt is probably tops, though, when it comes to overall business sense, as he is by far the most experienced (as well as the most successful) in that area.

As for the RINOs, McCain and Huckabee, they haven't a clue, as their respective histories on taxes clearly demonstrate. We have the second highest corporate tax rate in the world. We cannot continue that and maintain our economic leadership for much longer.

-And George W. Bush does not get it either, as his economic "stimulus" package that he has been apparently cajoled into pushing, which I am opposed to, does not even include tax breaks for the very people who actually invest and who provide the jobs in this country. Apparently, his advisors think that people making less that 80k/yr do, though.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Exactly, RD,

I agree with your assessments, and that's my point. You were looking for some positive signs for Republicans next election, and there's absolutely no one on the Democrat side voters can trust to bring the country out of an economic turndown.  But I believe voters will see that Republicans do have such individuals. 

In debates, Thompson or Romney would kill any of the Democrats...not as sure about Rudy. 

Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I think both McCain and Huckabee are living on borrowed time.

Running scared?

Lemon Bergen

Running a little scared are we? Hmmm....Imagine a woman or a man of color as your Commander and Cheif? Makes me giggle just to think of the pain and fear you must be feeling. Also your inane attempts at intelligence reflects in your over-inflated quotes, which I assume you continue to post as a pretentious means of sounding well read. (I think you should give up, you are an embarassment)

"giggle?"

How old are you, Lemon?  

lemon bergen

I do not engage trolls. I have maintained that policy since way back in the days of the Usenet, something I very seriously doubt you have ever even heard of.

Trolls usually impress me as people whose level of ignorance has progressed to the point that they will vote for a political candidate solely because of their gender or race.

And yes, the signature that appears beneath my comments is aimed squarely at people such as yourself.

Auf Wiedersehen, troll.

-Edited for kindness. 

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

Lemon Bergen AGAIN with

Lemon Bergen

AGAIN with the pretentious quote!! Give it up man, you're not fooling anyone! Clearly you are a "Knuckle Dragger!! "

Are you gonna be another disappointing leftist, Lemon?

One of those "drive-by" posters who is skilled only at insults?   Come on, don't run away.  Stick around and debate.  Dazzle us with your intellectual prowess.   

Oops, I want to apologize, Lemon Bergen

When I challenged you to dazzle us with your intellectual prowess, I didn't realize that you have Rosie.com listed as one of your "other sites."  

Since I don't like to take advantage of the disabled, I withdraw my challenge.

RJ

 

Good reply RJ. It's hard to fight a duel with an unarmed opponent!!

Oh Leon is gonna soon fall

Oh Leon is gonna soon fall out with the liz lemon over that fat lesbian.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Huh?...Check your math. 

Huh?...Check your math.  The others are probably relieved you're not speaking for them.  Since when did 50.8% become the equivalent of 4 out of 6?  [1996 popular vote distribution]

Jer

Correction:  "4 out of 6" should read "6 out of 10".  In other words, slightly less than 51% voted for "other" candidates in 1996--not 60%.  Sorry for the error.

R D...I realize you're

R D...I realize you're fairly new here [and welcome to the site, by the way], but it's generally good form to either defend your claim, or acknowledge a possible misstatement.

(Regarding your claim only 4 of 10 voted for Clinton both times he was elected.)

Jer

Jer,

Thanks,

I haven't forgotten, but I am having a few computer issues tonight as my internet connection is running rather slow-as well as I have a house full of screaming children over for a birthday party. Actually, the latter may have some relationship with the former.

I'll get back to you ASAP.

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe

No problem and no rush, R D...

No problem and no rush, R D...I only have one child, but he can be a handful.  Good luck with the party!

Jer

24% voted for Clinton in 1992

Actually in 1992, only 24% of those Americans legally able to vote, voted for Bill Clinton.

The lowest on record, I believe.

I belive he gained 44% of those who DID vote.

Jack Bauer/ Just in case you are unable to read my pen-name at the top of the post

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Jack...when you shift the

Jack...when you shift the area of inquiry to percentage of eligible voters, the numbers change dramatically.  For example, I think Reagan in 1980 only received about 27% of the votes from the total who could have voted.  But he won handily.

Jer

Reagan received about 29%

Reagan received about 29% of those eligible to vote in '80;  and 32% in '84.

Clinton's apx. 24% in '92 seems like a historically low figure to me.

Though I admit I haven't crunched the numbers for all 43 Presidents.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Jack

When you think about it, gore and kerry fared much better as a percentage than did clinton in victory.

Obviously, the strength and

Obviously, the strength and popularity of third-party candidacies [e.g. Perot in '92] are a significant factor when analyzing percentages in any given presidential election.

Jer 

Excuses, excuses.

Excuses, excuses.

yeah, well, true...it's an

yeah, well, true...it's an excuse; but one that provides at least some comfort to a few Republican and Democratic candidates.

Jer

Jer

Don't feel too bad. I voted for Perot in '92. I will be kicking my own ass until the grave for that.

Well, don't hurt yourself , Restless...

Well, don't hurt yourself, Restless...I guess we Democrats should be grateful, but I do recognize the broad appeal that Perot engendered during the '92 election.

That said, I have never bought into the argument that he siphoned off Republican votes in overwhelming numbers [he had a lot of Democratic support, too--as well as the allegiance of many who would not have even voted otherwise], but I suppose the actual ratio may have been enough to swing the election.  So, I guess go ahead and kick yourself. <wink>

Jer

"Set the record

"Set the record straight"????

More like attempting to rewrite history!

Two words

..............come to mind whenever Bill Clinton speaks. Sociopath and narcissist.

My two words

are "pathological liar."

Bill Clinton: where the

Bill Clinton: where the "-paths-" all meet...

mourning the loss of the spotlight

Irrational behavior was the norm in the clinton years.
It is more than likely that both clintons are frustrated in the extreme, to be shown that not all newscasters or voters are willing or interested in continuing the "selective memory loss" that the MSM and the clintons are trying to perpetuate to the future.
The obvious hazards of the dynastic continuation of Bush-clinton-Bush-clinton are there for all to see. Frighteningly, we have many of our current issues because of just such a sequence. We need not continue with another clinton.
Especially compelling is the absence of any work on the issues within the relationship of Bill and Hillary and their respective families. Bombast, alcoholism, abuse of women, power struggles, infidelity, abuse of children, abuse of power, disassociation with the truth, usery, lack of compassion for those that are abused are all major diagnostic symtoms of a diseased not to mention abusive relationship. Outward Indications are that the 'glue' in the relationship is and has always been power. However, there could be something more to be pitied. An irretrievable grasping for acknowledgement because they have no inner core.
I much prefer that we choose a candidate that has worked the issue central to his life and created a family that reflects the core values of our nation. Home, Family, love, intergrity,character, patriotism, honesty, and the vision that only a person that knows who he is can impart with eloquence.
Poor bill and hillery have given all that up in the pursuit of God only knows what. To be so close to realizing the goal and seeing it slip from grasp would serve to make a souless person angry indeed. Expect more of the same.
The MSM is helping to save the revisionst history of the clinton 'legacy'but to our eternal detriment.

bloviating blowhard

It's evident from reading the article that Willum (our first black President) feels he had the real high tech lynching. He'll march into history like the comic character (Pistol Pete?) who frequently punched the air with an angry finger.

Clinton Lies?

Lemon Bergen

Are you people on Crack?! Clinton lied about a blowjob and matters relating to his personal life between himself and his wife. On the other hand Georgie Boy lies DAILY on matters of national security, torture techniques, invading sovereign countires for oil, 9/11, and countless other's including his new pet project to invade Iran! He IS a war criminal who should be impeached! But, hell, you may continue to worship at his alter and drink his syrupy Kool-aid!!

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