The snapshot coverage of the Bill and Hillary media blitz last week might make one believe they didn’t say anything substantive or serious in their talk-show appearances. But Hillary’s appearance on the September 4 season premiere of the Ellen De Generes talk show featured the Democratic front-runner pledging her eagerness to sign off on nearly the entire gay-left political agenda when she becomes the president. Hillary dodged Ellen’s question if a Democratic candidate could openly support "gay marriage" and win, but touted her support for a list of gay agenda items.
While reporters like NBC’s Andrea Mitchell only showed her joking with coffee-shop customers about how much housework Bill Clinton does, Hillary stressed that the concepts of marriage and family should be redefined with as much elasticity as people can muster: "You know, Ellen, we need to really open the door for people to define their relationships in a way that we can recognize and acknowledge."
The interview began with a light turn, as Hillary presented Ellen with gifts if she were to run for president, including a T-shirt that read "Ellen-Hillary 2008," and on the back "DeGeneres-Clinton." After a commercial break, the discussion about the gay agenda began as Ellen cracked wise about being gay – Hillary pretended to be shocked at the news for comic effect – and Ellen subtly made fun of Senator Larry Craig for denying he’s gay. Then she grew serious:
ELLEN: It’s important to me to be able to commit to someone that I love and to have the same benefits, the same rights. If something should happen to me, Portia’s [her lover Portia de Rossi] taken care of. People who are gay care about that. You support civil unions.
HILLARY: I do.
ELLEN: But not gay marriage.
HILLARY: Uh huh.
ELLEN: And uh, why?
HILLARY: Well, I’m very much in favor of civil unions with full equality of benefits, and I want to see that developed as we move forward. I want to make that happen with federal benefits. There are a lot of federal benefits that people in long-term committed relationships don’t have access to, and I wanna make that happen. So I consider that this issue is one on where we can agree on equality of benefits, and move toward that.
And then we have a lot of other work to do. I’m very much in favor of ending Don’t Ask Don’t Tell [policy on gays in the military], because I don’t think it’s worked. It has driven a lot of people out of our military, [applause] and you know, other countries have gone much further – Israel, Great Britain, and others – and have had great success with letting people serve openly. If you are willing to serve your country and you’re a patriot, you ought to be permitted to do that without lying about who you are. I’m in favor of that. I want to end discrimination against gays and lesbians [the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, or ENDA]. We haven’t gotten that passed yet.
ELLEN: Do you think it would be possible for someone to run and to openly say I support gay marriage, and win? Do think that’s even possible?
HILLARY: You know, I don’t know. I mean, I had the same position for years, and so I don’t know what somebody could or couldn’t do. But I’ve always believed that marriage should be left to the states. Because that’s where it’s always been. States have determined the age of marriage, the conditions, and over time, we’ve gotten rid of a lot of the discrimination that used to exist in marriage laws, and that’s now happening. People are making decisions – civil unions, marriage. They’re deciding in the states, and I think that’s the appropriate place for this to be.
ELLEN: I think that’s really important. I mean, it’s close to me, all of it’s close to me. I mean all of it really matters. I live in this world just like everybody else but those things matter a great deal to me. So –
HILLARY: Well, you know, Ellen, we need to really open the door for people to define their relationships in a way that we can recognize and acknowledge.
ELLEN: Well, it gets rid of the shame, and it gets rid of behavior that we see happening all the time when people are so ashamed they do things that are – sad.
HILLARY: That’s exactly right.
ELLEN: Really, really sad.
HILLARY: That’s exactly right.
ELLEN: It’s all about shame.
HILLARY: It is.
From there Ellen took Hillary to a local coffee shop to interview voters, and that was the part most pundits noticed. But even there, in a clip not noticed by the Andrea Mitchells of the world, Hillary tried to talk a loosely affiliated Republican woman to vote for her by sounding like Ross Perot:
We’ve got to get over a lot of the partisanship and the divisiveness we’ve had in the country because we have a lot of big problems to solve, and we need to just roll up our sleeves and work together.
Should voters be led to believe that Hillary Clinton, the legendary spinner of Vast Right Wing Conspiracies, is utterly free of divisive partisanship?
Finally, it was hard to ignore the music that accompanied Senator Clinton as she came into the studio. It was the old song "Right Here, Right Now" by Jesus Jones, with its hopeful lyrics about "watching the world wake up from history."
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.





















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}}---> She may as well
September 10, 2007 - 16:18 ET by Cool ArrowHer "man" has all the women he can handle set aside.
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Only Mitt Romney can expose her for her dysfunctional
September 10, 2007 - 16:56 ET by Daniel Bakermarriage. Every other Republican canidate has relationship skeletons.
Hillary: "And, Ellen, as
September 10, 2007 - 16:27 ET by drillanwrHillary: "And, Ellen, as the nation's first woman President, I will also be the first to come out of the closet ..."
Oh, my! Did I type that??!?
PETA would approve
September 10, 2007 - 16:30 ET by Mica the MagnificentCommon within 3 years of a Hillary presidency:
Preacher: I now pronounce you man and lamb.
You may kiss the livestock.
Mica the Magnificent
September 10, 2007 - 16:47 ET by BarkerThat is hilarious!
And how about:
"You may now inflate the bride"
Barker
September 10, 2007 - 16:49 ET by Mica the MagnificentBarker: That would be within 4 years of a hillary presidency.
I think I might support gay
September 10, 2007 - 16:35 ET by TruthMongerI think I might support gay marriage now - we really can't ban it when we have all of this porn and casino business going on...
Pot smoking too, we can't really ban that when cigs and alcohol are worse...
tm... Why in the world
September 10, 2007 - 16:38 ET by Clear thinkertm...
Why in the world would you support gay marriage???
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We'll have a gay old time...
September 10, 2007 - 16:41 ET by TruthMonger...hey ct - so how will it really be worse than all of the porn and gambling, and cigs and alcohol drinking out there? Won't make a big difference...
The church doesn't have to accept it - just our government ya see...
tm... Please answer the
September 10, 2007 - 16:42 ET by Clear thinkertm...
Please answer the question.
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...because my gay friends
September 10, 2007 - 16:43 ET by TruthMonger...because my gay friends want it! How's that...?
tm... That's a rather
September 10, 2007 - 16:46 ET by Clear thinkertm...
That's a rather lame excuse.
Should other groups of people that have a particular sexual preference get what they want too???
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...if they can behave well -
September 10, 2007 - 16:47 ET by TruthMonger...if they can behave well - just like the porn and gambling industry - and nice folks like Ellen and Portia - sound OK to you?
No, it's not good enough
September 10, 2007 - 16:50 ET by Clear thinkerNo, it's not good enough for me.
I don't want to make anything legal that encourages sexual deviant behavior.
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...sounds great CT, you
September 10, 2007 - 16:52 ET by TruthMonger...sounds great CT, you better outlaw the porn industry then...!
Bless your efforts...
There are laws concerning
September 10, 2007 - 16:56 ET by Clear thinkerThere are laws concerning porn already.
I for one would be for outlawing porn outright.
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But porn is not banned like
September 10, 2007 - 17:01 ET by TruthMongerBut porn is not banned like gay marriage. It's restricted to certain areas - maybe we could create a "gay-marriage district?"
Many Hollywood films encourage sexual deviance as well, and rock bands...they must also be outlawed...
im all for the states to
September 10, 2007 - 17:33 ET by Dan The Man 2im all for the states to regulate things like abortion gambling and maarriage just like teh constitution intended. But in teh same vien we cant have the reciprocal agreements as with a marriage between men and women. In other words we need congress to pass the law saying taht marriage is between a man and woman and any other type of union is not reciprocal to teh states.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
...there is definitely some
September 10, 2007 - 17:38 ET by TruthMonger...there is definitely some evil that just should not be recipricol:)!
}}---> Gay States
September 10, 2007 - 17:38 ET by Cool ArrowGay States legalizing homosexual unions is not strictly confined to those states.
A corporation that operates in many countries including France faces the problem of "cradle to grave" (hire to retire) laws in France. The law is therefore punitive to the non socialist countries in which the corporation operates.
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}}---> My sheep
September 10, 2007 - 16:49 ET by Cool ArrowI can't wait until I can tell the world of my love for Mutton.
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I'm for that now
September 10, 2007 - 16:51 ET by TruthMongerI'm for that now too:)
celebrate DeGenerass-y
}}---> Baaaa
September 10, 2007 - 17:06 ET by Cool ArrowExcuse me while I pull the wool over my eyes.
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Born Free?
September 10, 2007 - 17:07 ET by BarkerYeah, what one does in the privacy of their own barn shouldn't be anyone else's business, right?
...or also the privacy of
September 10, 2007 - 17:08 ET by TruthMonger...or also the privacy of their own talk show:)...
}}---> Ellen was too sweet
September 10, 2007 - 17:12 ET by Cool ArrowI was hoping she'd give Hillary a good tongue lashing for not taking a stronger stand.
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tongue...lashing...?(gulp
September 10, 2007 - 17:18 ET by TruthMongertongue...lashing...?
(gulp) o boy...brace for impact!
Ellen
September 10, 2007 - 17:18 ET by BarkerEllen hammered her point quite well, though.
}}---> And the commercial break
September 10, 2007 - 17:20 ET by Cool ArrowI thought the Snap-On commercial was well placed.
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after watching logo for two
September 10, 2007 - 17:23 ET by TruthMongerafter watching logo for two hours i can sit through anything now
Too bad they didn't discuss
September 10, 2007 - 17:56 ET by RESTLESS 1Too bad they didn't discuss the "muff" rule in the NFL though.
Hillary: "Who cleans your
September 10, 2007 - 18:03 ET by RESTLESS 1Hillary: "Who cleans your carpet?"
Ellen: "don't go there."
I'm glad I read this thread
September 10, 2007 - 18:45 ET by Conservative_in_mass.I'm glad I read this thread after I ate!
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
I'll bet Ellen was thinking
September 10, 2007 - 23:51 ET by RESTLESS 1I'll bet Ellen was thinking the same thing. ;>)
rolling rolling rolling . . .
September 10, 2007 - 16:40 ET by Mica the MagnificentTruthmonger:
. . . and why make a big deal about robbery, rape or assault? Murder is worse!
Pro-murder!
September 10, 2007 - 16:46 ET by TruthMonger...could do that too - I suppose - any Libertarians here have a problem with that?
We already have Biblical laws - so aren't governmental morality laws kinda redundant?
the forgotten
September 10, 2007 - 16:46 ET by Mica the MagnificentThe atheists have to follow the law, too.
...these morality laws are
September 10, 2007 - 16:49 ET by TruthMonger...these morality laws are based on religion - which the gov shall make no laws respecting - that way athiests, satanists, wiccans, and other notorious killers can practice their respective faiths - as guaranteed by the US Constitution - so help us God:)...
}}---> Absolutely, TM
September 10, 2007 - 16:52 ET by Cool ArrowAnd we need to look a little closer at those "arbitrary" age of consent laws, too.
Any child who wants to pair up with an old codger deserves that right, huh?
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...exactly, I mean how can
September 10, 2007 - 16:54 ET by TruthMonger...exactly, I mean how can we stop them if we're not stopping the porners, the gamblers, the gay marriagers, the murderers, the robbers, etc...
Let's all jump aboard, huh?
September 10, 2007 - 16:57 ET by Cool ArrowIf we eliminate religion (morality, like it or not), and the only thing you have left to rule your impulses is animal instinct. From there it is a simple manipulation that any child capable of procreating deserves that right.
Got any grandchildren you'd like to donate to the cause of moral depravity?
Works real good in Islamic countries.
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ye secular blasphemer!
September 10, 2007 - 17:03 ET by TruthMongerAre you saying that it takes morality (religion) to create civilization?!?!?!?
If we eliminate religion
September 10, 2007 - 17:11 ET by motherbeltIf we eliminate religion (morality, like it or not), and the only thing you have left to rule your impulses is animal instinct -Cool Arrow
I disagree, Cool Arrow. If you eliminate religion and morality, what you have left to regulate impulses is law. The question then becomes not what is moral, but what is legal. We are already seeing this with gay marriage; once it is "legal", no one has any authority to oppose it. And since laws can be changed at any time (as you illustrated with your age-of-consent example), any time you can get a majority of the Congress to agree on a change, that new "standard" becomes law. If the age of "consent" gets lowered to 10, no one has any standing to oppose someone having sex with a ten-year-old; after all, it's legal.
heavy - so how is law
September 10, 2007 - 17:14 ET by TruthMongerheavy - so how is law different from religion/morality?
}}---> I think Motherbelt
September 10, 2007 - 17:18 ET by Cool ArrowI think Motherbelt is saying a society can be as wretched as it wishes.
I agree. And a society has a right to stand up against such liberalism. But not a duty (absent a belief in a higher authority).
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My theory? One day we will
September 10, 2007 - 17:22 ET by TruthMongerMy theory? One day we will catch up to the Amish...
}}---> Missing something belt
September 10, 2007 - 17:14 ET by Cool ArrowWhich "law" is it you refer to that does not derive its legitimacy in religion?
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Well, our original laws
September 10, 2007 - 17:53 ET by motherbeltWell, our original laws were constructed from an understanding of Christian principles (and the Supreme Lawgiver). I didn't say Judeo-Christian because I don't think Judaism was prevalent in the young US.
But, much as people decide that the Constitution is a "living document", so can people decide that morality "evolves" in a society. In a way, it does. Unmarried mothers used to be ashamed; families sent them off to an "aunt" on the other side of the country, where they had their babies and put them up for adoption. Now we have daycare centers in high schools. Abortion used to be practically unthinkable. Now it's a "fundamental right."
That's just one aspect of societal change.
If assisted suicide becomes legal, how does one oppose it? How does one argue that old Dad should not worry about the financial drain on his family, that he has a right to live as long as he can? When will "permitted suicide" become "expected suicide" as has already happened with abortion?
That's what I meant by morality being decided by majority rule.
}}---> See your point mother
September 10, 2007 - 17:59 ET by Cool ArrowYou can legislate anything. Nobody told Cain beforehand it was wrong to kill his brother.
Nothing to suggest his "sin" was anything more than avoiding a direct answer to God's question about his brother's whereabouts.
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But he knew it was wrong,
September 10, 2007 - 20:33 ET by motherbeltBut he knew it was wrong, didn't he? Or else he wouldn't have dissembled when God asked him where his brother was.
That came from the conscience that God gave him, and us. Or, wherever you choose to think it comes from, some things we just know are wrong.
O-kee-doh-key, truthmonger!
September 10, 2007 - 16:53 ET by Mica the Magnificent. . . check please!
no charge - its on me:)...
September 10, 2007 - 16:55 ET by TruthMongerno charge - its on me:)...
Re: Picture
September 10, 2007 - 16:36 ET by drillanwrYeah, as if ...
Ellen's thinking "Good thing I didn't wear my Obama `08" T-shirt today!"
Cultural Genocide
September 10, 2007 - 16:52 ET by Daniel BakerRedefing Marriage destroys the cultures ability to promote its traditional values.
Only Mitt Romney would be a leader on this issue as he has in the past. Being lazy and leaving this up to federalism cannot work.
Redefining marriage also
September 10, 2007 - 16:54 ET by Clear thinkerRedefining marriage also slows down the process of pro-creation.
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I am really confused...what
September 10, 2007 - 16:55 ET by msh1973I am really confused...what are these rights that Ellen wants that she doesn't already have under the Constitution?
uhhhhh.... What rights to
September 10, 2007 - 17:00 ET by TruthMongeruhhhhh....
What rights to married people have? Tax breaks? No there is the marriage penalty...
Health Insurance - that's not a right...
dunno really
TruthMonger, The
September 10, 2007 - 17:37 ET by msh1973TruthMonger,
The Constitution gives Americans the right to health insurance? Please point that out for me because I want to jump on that bandwagon.
msh
September 10, 2007 - 17:40 ET by TruthMongerI said it wasn't a right - did you misread?
TruthMonger, I thought
September 10, 2007 - 17:43 ET by msh1973TruthMonger,
I thought you were being snarky...I get it now. It has been a long day and I still have a meeting to attend. Sorry.
all if forgiven! (big
September 10, 2007 - 17:47 ET by TruthMongerall if forgiven! (big hug)
Now get to that meeting so you can take a nap - that'll help...
HILLARY: Well, you know,
September 10, 2007 - 16:56 ET by Conservative_in_mass.HILLARY: Well, you know, Ellen, we need to really open the door for people to define their relationships in a way that we can recognize and acknowledge.
Like yours with the super soaker? PAAAALEEEEZE.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
She's serious, folks
September 10, 2007 - 17:50 ET by ThisnThatHillary will do this, too. If you want proof, look at New Hampshire. A democratic state house and democrat governor for the first time in more than 100 years -- and the first thing they pushed though was queer rights legislation. Hillary and the dims will make this a top priority. Throw out your dictionaries and any other moral standards, upbringing, and societal norms you might associate with this country. They are all going to be "redefined", based upon views of a tiny, tiny, minority. Your rights be damned.
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This: Right on target.
September 10, 2007 - 18:42 ET by Conservative_in_mass.This:
Right on target. Clinton inc. will no doubt make gay marriage a priority. One of the first pressing issues in 1993 for the great stain-o-maker was gays in the military (don't ask, don't tell).
I shudder to think of what would happen to this country if this dangerous duo gets their mitts on the White House again.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
Speaking of Gays
September 10, 2007 - 21:11 ET by connmanI wonder where the likes of GLAAD was when it was announced a couple of weeks ago all over the MSM that what Sen. Craig was nabbed in was something called a "Gay Sex Sting". Tell me, what is a Gay sex sting? Wouldn't a thing like that bother Hillary enough to speak out against it? Just wondering.........chirp......chirp
.....Hillary stressed that
September 10, 2007 - 23:34 ET by MidAmerica.....Hillary stressed that the concepts of marriage and family should be redefined with as much elasticity as people can muster: "You know, Ellen, we need to really open the door for people to define their relationships in a way that we can recognize and acknowledge."
What did hillary just say? Nothing. Nothing at all.
All the change she is 'open' to is the change others will make. She's not taking a stand that she will have to defend while getting cheers from a gullible audience who thinks she just did.