L.A. Times Microanalyzes Bible for Sarah Palin Hit Piece

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The Los Angeles Times seems to have taken a sudden new interest in biblical study. No, they haven't become religious or anything close to that. Instead, they are microanalyzing the Bible for passages that they think they can use to slam Sarah Palin for running for vice-president. They are also searching the countryside to dig up the very few strongly religious Christians they can find who think Palin is wrong to run for public office. Let us now join Times reporter, Teresa Watanabe, as she begins her biblical studies in her story with an ulterior motive (emphasis mine):

In a white-steepled church along a stretch in picturesque canyon country, the preacher laid out the basic blueprint of a godly marriage: Husbands lead, wives submit.

See where this is going right from the get-go? The reporter is going to use the Bible to suggest to believers that Sarah Palin is violating the "basic blueprint of a godly marriage."

Speaking recently before hundreds of worshipers at Placerita Baptist Church in Newhall, guest preacher Chris Mueller affirmed the view that loving male headship and gracious wifely submission are God's plan for spouses.

Placerita, like many conservative Christian churches, teaches that a wife's role is to be her husband's helpmate (Genesis), "workers at home" (Titus) and submissive to her husband in everything (Ephesians).

Sheesh! Don't they ever let up? I can just picture a Los Angeles Times research team poring over the Bible for the first time to find passages they can cite about how Palin is supposedly a hypocrite for running for office. Watanabe then gives a brief nod about how there are no biblical restrictions on a woman running for public office...but then quickly returns to the basic theme of this hit piece:

Many say that biblical restrictions on women's leadership apply to church and home, not the secular world -- clearing the way for a woman to run the nation but not a congregation. And so long as Palin's husband, Todd, approves, they say, her career conforms with teachings on wifely duties.

But to others, this view contradicts biblical teaching.

And don't worry. You can absolutely count on the L.A. Times to find those "others" no matter how few they may be.

"The Palin selection is the single most dangerous event in the conscience of the Christian community in the last 10 years at least," said Doug Phillips, president of Vision Forum, a Texas-based ministry. "The unabashed, unquestioning support of Sarah Palin and all she represents marks a fundamental departure from our historic position of family priorities -- of moms being at home with young children, of moms being helpers to their husbands, the priority of being keepers of the home."

Could you find just one more person out there who disapproves of Palin running for office due to a supposedly biblical perspective? Please! Pretty please!

Voddie Baucham, a Texas pastor who has criticized the Palin selection as anti-family in a series of blogs, said that the overwhelming evangelical support demonstrates a willingness to sacrifice biblical principles for politics. "Evangelicalism has lost its biblical perspective and its prophetic voice," Baucham wrote. "Men who should be standing guard as the conscience of the country are instead falling in line with the feminist agenda and calling a family tragedy . . . a shining example of family values."

Yup. The L.A. Times came through by finding one more of those rare kooks who thinks that Palin shouldn't be a candidate because of a "biblical perspective" that almost no one else sees. Watanabe then makes it seem like there is some sort of big debate out there among Christians over whether Palin should run for office:

Most of the debate on Palin, however, centers on whether a mother with young children is violating Scripture by running for such a demanding office as vice president. The key biblical verse at issue is Titus 2:5, which many evangelical Christians believe lays out God's command to younger women to be workers at home subject to their husbands.

Yeah, a big raging debate that almost no one, except the liberal Los Angeles Times, knows even exists.  File this under conjuring up a non-existent controversy for strictly political purposes.

Watanabe finally did get around to contradicting the previous cherry-picked biblical misinterpretations by citing certain strong women in the Bible but only in the last paragraph of her story:

Barbara Barrick, the women's ministry coordinator, said she looks to Deborah, a prophetess and judge, as a biblical example of a female leader. Ennis cited Abraham's wife, Sarah, and Queen Esther as other women called by God for special missions.

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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I wonder if they have come

I wonder if they have come across a little known passage that says we shall not bear false witness.  Or that homosxualyity is wrong and in fact damnable.  So Paloosi is supposed to step down now and all the congress critters that are females.  Ohh woe is me, my wife is a supervisor making more money than I.  Does she have to step down?

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Didn't hear this when

Didn't hear this when Hillary was running.

Convenient

The only time that these Pharisees even recognize the cover of a Bible is when they want to use it as ammunition against anyone who is unashamed to profess their faith in any way. They likely need to borrow a Bible to do this.

Content

Excellent point.  The top 3 rules for interpreting the Bible are context, context and context.  Another major interpretation rule is to let the Scripture speak for itself rather than reading our cultural bias back into it.

Ignoring these rules account for the majority of errors.  Incidently, most cults which deny the truth and authority of the Bible actually use passages taken out of context as authority to justify their radical beliefs.  The MSM fits right in.

That's because...

That's because Hillary, Pelosi, et al, practice a brand of Christianity that is more to the liking of the liberal LA Times and the MSM in general.  A non-spiritual person cannot understand spiritual submission.

Does this mean that Gov. Palin is not as extreme as 'some'?

This piece in the LA Times is hillarious in that it is a theological discussion by atheists about their misunderstood views of evangelicals. This shows that Governor Palin is much more mainstream than they would want to admit.

 

You want change? Give me a dollar.

This makes about as much

This makes about as much sense as leftists misquoting free-marketeers to convince shallow-minded people that socialism is a good thing.

Oh, wait... that works... maybe they're onto something here!

 

"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré

My email to the reporter

From: me

To: teresa.watanabe@latimes.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 8:06 AM

Subject: Obama's Muslim background

Let us know when you're going to go seek out legitimate Islamic scholars like in Eygpt or Pakistan to find out just what Islam has to say about someone reaised in the religion but who claims to leave it as an adult.  Are they an apostate? Do they need to be killed?

Oh, I have another story idea.. how about doing a story on Keith Ellison... perhaps you should find out if he's adhering to the Islamic worldview that the world is split between the Dar al Islam (House of Islam) and Dar al Haarb (house of war).

Muslims not in Muslim land are in Dar al Haarb and are to operate under a pragmatic set of rules that call for the steady undermining of the host nation while nurturiong the development of Islamic enclaves.. the enclave must always be careful not to let the host know that the enclave plans to overrun the society once they have the power to do so.  Can you determine if Keith Ellison is being a good Muslim or is he just as bad as Palin in trying to keep with the faith?

Please excuse any spelling problems, my machine doesn't have spell checker and i'm so excited to give you my ideas before I have to leave for work

Quote

I think these words from A.W. Tozer pretty much sum up those that write stuff like this.  "The devil is a better theologian than any of us and is a devil still." OR "One hundred religious persons knit into a unity by careful organization do not constitute a church any more than eleven dead men make a football team.  The first requisite is life, always."

"Stupid only comes second in the short list of what one can reasonably expect from a Democrat." The Dissident Frogman (France)

Nevermind the fact

Nevermind the fact that the reporter *cough* *cough* only used part of the verse to avoid clarity. As most here understand if you want the complete context of a particular scripture you need to read the previous and following scriptures to get a better understanding.

Yes--previous back to where

Yes--previous back to where it says, "In the beginning," and following to where it says, "The grace of the Lord Jesus be with God's people. Amen."

When is the LA Times going to report on Obama?

I'm waiting for the story that explores how closely Obama adheres to the Christian beliefs and scriptural teachings by being pro-abortion and voting against giving legal protection and mandating medical care to babies born alive in an attempted abortion.

Or asking him how, Constitutionally, the government can treat one type of person (rich) differently than another type (middle class). Doesn't that violate the 14th amendment?

 

You want change? Give me a dollar.

Great point, but don't hold

Great point, but don't hold your breath.  Only Republicans can be hypocrites; just as only Republicans can truly be racist, sexist, etc.  The mainstream media has never met a Democrat who is any of these things.

Religious, too

Only conservatives can be "religious zealots." Democrats are "deeply religious," even when they violate religious tenets.

"Even?" I should say "especially."

 

"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré

Wifely duties? Commanded to

Wifely duties? Commanded to be workers at home? Gracious wifely submission?

Hello... NOW Gang? Anybody awake over there at one of the many LA chapters?

One of NOW's Big Ten Obstacles-To-Overcome issues is "A woman has never been President of the U.S., nor been nominated by a major party."

comment

I've seen the interviews with "the First Dude" and I don't get any impression that he is submissive to her in their marriage, or that she makes all the final decisions, including that she would run for VP whether he approves or not.  I also don't get the impression that she disrespects his masculinity, that she has emasculated him, etc.

 

 

And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

This is a pretty pathetic

This is a pretty pathetic attempt by the LA Times. You could write a book covering the things they skiped over or left out, or twisted. OH! Wait a minute! The did that already. Following their logic, they must support the Yearning for Zion Ranch. After all, that was wives submitting to their husbands.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

What the heck does the LA

What the heck does the LA Times know about the Bible? The only thing I would trust the LA Times, or the NY Times with would be... on second thought I don't trust them for anything. Never mind. 

Palin Is Caught And Her Career Is Over!

 

 

 

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Time for Sunday School

I still can't believe that media actually pays people to write uninformed articles like this and people actually pay to read them.

One more time for all the liberal journalists:

You can't cherry pick verses out of the Bible and create an ideology.  The Bible must be examined in its entirety.

Hey Teresa Watanabe, why didn't you use some actual people mentioned in the Bible.

Deborah was a judge over Israel.

Lydia in the Book of Acts was a merchant, a seller of purple.

Why not actually read the Bible and understand it rather than pick out pieces to prop up your agenda.

 

save your breath for people

save your breath for people with ears

and note the usual irony - fundie husbands, like Jesus, are the ultimate servants of the household - humble, bottom of the pyramid, feet washers...

The Bible is a liberal fem's dream come true - tragically they never study it...

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

The LA Times "analysing"

The LA Times "analysing" the Bible is sorta like having the village idiot as your spiritual guide ,isn't it?

Yes, it is.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

I'd say

it's more like having the village idiot be your chief scientist and college professor.

(They used to think insane people were "in touch with God." CCTOI, Bill Maher still does. HA! A two-fer!)

;^D

 

"To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection." - H. Poincaré

LA Times

Getting the LA Times to explain the Bible is like getting an English major to help you with your Calculus.

 

Husbands lead, wives submit

The LA Times should be reminded of Titus 3:9

"But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain."

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Gov. Palin, Christian Wife Perfection

I know 10 out of 10 gentlemen here who are not married sit there and think, "This Gov. Palin is tough, intelligent, accomplished, shoots guns, hunts, fishes, knows how to run a boat", and it honestly never dawns on them she is pretty.
Gov. Palin though is the ultimate woman for these Conservative males as she is strong and independent and that is what her attraction is.

In speaking of the Bible, Sarah had her own tents and managed a literal nation. There are numerous examples in the Bible which show women not as second class as the heathen liberals always try to smear Christians and Hebrews as, but as complete women how have a role as distinct as gentlemen.
For a woman to "submit" means for her not to be submissive, but to submit just as men must submit to God. I know men are not perfect, but they have their roles in protecting the family and being the main provider in leadership which includes dying for that family and nation to keep them secure so the family continues on.

Men have a duty to cherish and assist their wives to become the complete spirits God intends them to be which is one of the most delightful of duties in seeing someone you care for exceed even you.

Women have I believe a much harder duty in nuturing their husbands and sons to become those leaders by showing the power of trust, how to submit and how to be patient in allowing a person to grow into their own as men must do.
As an example we all now know, John McCain was quite the man until he went into POW torture. There he had to learn not to react with hate, anger and reactions. He learned a feminine quality of learning how to bide one's time in accepting victories on your terms and not your torturers.

In none of this do I mean women are meant to suffer, but it needs to be understood that women have great qualities to teach men and boys just as gentlemen have qualities to teach women and girls.

God made all of us with weaknesses deliberately to overcome. Men often like to shirk power and try and pass it off on women who have a weakness in desiring power. Each in life and marriage must seek to overcome flaws to gain our spiritual nature.

The Clinton's proved a disaster in that war and the Bush's seem quite content in their relationship as do the Palin's. Thankfully God makes children resiliant so Chelsea appears quite adjusted now even for a liberal.

Sarah Palin is the most wonderful of examples, especially Christ's example in just consider all the horrid things being said about her from David Letterman, things posted on Jeff Rense, Katie Couric, CNN, Charlie Gibson etc... There is not an ounce of human chivalry in any of these people in how they are treating a woman.

I have attacked Hillary Clinton's policies without end as they are communist, but I never once stoop to name calling as it serves no purpose in attacking her. It doesn't matter any way as I'm not going to be dating her. Her policy though is what matters and it is bad policy.

 

In that, I'm posting a letter I received today from someone who knows Alaska and Gov. Palin.

 

Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:19 am (PDT)

From: Butch King

Fishing is good here at Wildman and I
rarely have time for politics, but
many of
our friends are asking us "Who is Sarah Palin?" Of course, as Alaskans,
Kathy
and I are extremely proud of her. We just want to let you know that Sarah
"Barracuda" Palin is a straight shooting, hard charging, get it done gal.
She
knows when to listen, how to analyze the facts and how to make a decision,
then
implement the plan. She doesn't do a poll before jumping in with both feet
like
too many of the Washington types. She has little legislative experience
because
she has always held the EXECUTIVE position; in private life, as mayor of
Anchorage's largest bedroom community or more recently as Governor of our
State.
She is a smart, attractive home grown Alaska girl with excellent moral and
family values. She can see what needs to be done and does not hesitate to
get it
done.

One of our State's major problems is that its Capital is in Juneau,
500
miles
from the nearest road and 800 air miles from the population base which is
Anchorage, Wasilla and Fairbanks. Our legislature and most of the State
government is in Juneau and they ALL behave like a bunch of freshmen in a
college town. It has been this way since Statehood in 1959. When Sarah moved
to
Juneau, so did accountability and responsibility. When the oil revenue
started
flowing and a barrel of North Slope Crude hit $23.00, these people began
spending money like drunken sailors. You can only imagine what was happening
when oil hit $100.00 a barrel, about the time Sarah took command. My wife
Kathy
has first-hand experience with this fiasco, as her father and also her
ex-husband were Alaska Legislators who served in Juneau as Senators, Senate
President, or members of the State House for a combined period spanning
nearly
three decades.

About the time Sarah took the HELM as Governor of
Alaska, about half of the
State legislature was in the pocket of big oil companies or contractors
doing
big projects for Native Corporations around Alaska, all funded by State oil
revenue. Alaska government was nothing but a good old boys club riding the
perpetual wave of prosperity. This filtered down from the legislature,
through
the Department of Natural Resources, Department of Labor and even spilled
into
the Public Safety who are supposed to "preserve and protect".

When Sarah walked into the Governor's Mansion, she promptly dismissed the
State
Trooper detachment assigned to Governor and had her and her husband's gun
case
brought in from Wasilla. Then, she got rid of the former Governor's STATE
Jet
and told legislators that there were no more free rides, they would have to
fly
Alaska Airlines, just like her and her family if they wanted to travel.

Next came the nut cutting (the
Barracuda part) the heads that rolled were
too
numerous to name, but when Sarah finished cleaning house, a number of our
legislators ended up in jail on corruption charges, or tendered their
resignations along with numerous department heads and those who have been
riding
the gravy train for way too long, AND THEN SHE HAD LUNCH. By the end of the
day,
Sarah Palin had saved the people of Alaska millions and has not yet slowed
down.

She has truly brought CHANGE to Juneau. I personally know several persons in
the
private sector in Alaska, that hold her in high esteem. She surrounds
herself
with smart people, many from my hometown of Anchorage, she listens to them
but
makes her own decisions. Sarah Palin is a no B.S. politician. It is
refreshing
that there is such a thing anymore.

You want to talk about CHANGE? You should see a before and after picture of
the
State government in Alaska.
That's CHANGE! Sarah will bring a number of
things
to the election. I am sure she will appeal to many voters who otherwise
could
have gone the other direction on election day.

The conservative block will not be for Barack. We have their vote. We need
what
Sarah will bring, first to the election and second, what she will bring to
Washington D.C. McCain has been advised well. Let's just hope the American
people can get the straight scoop on her in the weeks ahead.

This is just the opinion of one Alaska Bush Pilot and Guide, who pays
attention
to national politics, watches the news and is deathly afraid of the
direction
our nation is headed. I guarantee that if Sarah gets a chance to dig her
spurs
into the flanks of the liberal Washington types, they will know that she is
in
the saddle.

Butch King Pilot/Guide

Alaska Salmon Fishing Lodge - Wildman Lake Lodge on the Alaska
Peninsula
http://www.wildmanlodge.com/

 

 

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Well I just happen to have

Well I just happen to have a comment from the left that fits right in with this thread...

Good Christians don’t get tattoos.”
- Posted by J.F.

More absurd comments about this here... Palin Is Caught And Her Career Is Over!

 

 

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why didn't the times post this scripture?!?!?

Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.