Did you know that the election of Barack Obama is the most historic moment in American history?
You didn't?
Well, it is according to "Desperate Housewives" star Teri Hatcher, who during a discussion about her butt -- what is it about liberals and gluteus maximi? -- actually told David Letterman so (video embedded below the fold, those disinterested in hearing her talk about her rearend should forward to 2:00):
Honestly, there's so many ways to go with that setup...but it's Thanksgiving.
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June 6, 1944. 144,000
November 27, 2008 - 19:28 ET by PeskyDaneJune 6, 1944. 144,000 real men storm the beaches at Normandy and Omaha.
Oh. What was I thinking? No, November 4, 2008 was much more important.
PD
November 27, 2008 - 19:34 ET by Noel SheppardPesky's back! Where've you been? ns
Today - making graham
November 27, 2008 - 20:28 ET by PeskyDaneToday - making graham cracker houses with the kids, nieces and nephews - sort of a pre-game tradition to open the holiday season. Of course we old farts tend to nudge the little ones aside from time to time to add our touches and make the needed repairs.
Last couple of weeks? Mostly taking the site in and chuckling at the trolls.
Normandy? I rather thought
November 27, 2008 - 19:47 ET by NL207Normandy? I rather thought it might have been this event.
Greatest of all time
November 27, 2008 - 19:56 ET by Conservative VoiceGreatest of all time historical moments...
Birth of Christ, Death of Christ...
The Declaration of Independence
Constitution signing
The signing of the magna carta
just to name a few things on the top of my head.
Pretty much makes the
November 27, 2008 - 20:19 ET by PeskyDanePretty much makes the point. Throw a dart at the wall an you'll hit something more significant than Nov 4th.
Definately a contenter.
November 27, 2008 - 20:18 ET by PeskyDaneDefinately a contenter.
Outstanding link NL. Thanks!
November 27, 2008 - 20:20 ET by JPR1Never knew of that bit of drama myself. Something my kids will understand though.
Moon Walk
November 28, 2008 - 08:20 ET by misterbee241What about when America put men on the moon in '69? I thought that was pretty historic.
Obama's election isnt so much historic as it is hysteric.
There's a new cult in town - right up there with the scientologists and moonies.
Pfffttbb! Men on the moon?
November 28, 2008 - 08:30 ET by Sergeant ROCKObama can do that with a wave of his hand. Give me a break already!
Alan KEYES 2012
Good morning ROCK
November 28, 2008 - 08:36 ET by cocodrieThinking back on everything, I see Hussein as a grain of sand on the beach. And I don't mean the one that gets inside an oyster.
Sandy Beaches
November 28, 2008 - 08:41 ET by Sergeant ROCKLike the sand you get in your shoe that causes such discomfort?
Alan KEYES 2012
Yep
November 28, 2008 - 08:45 ET by cocodrieThe one that causes the infected blister.
Hope this doesn't have the new civilian police kicking down my door Jan 21.
Civilian Police
November 28, 2008 - 08:53 ET by Sergeant ROCKI can't wait to turn you in. Then my family members, neighbors, etc. I should have my Obama armband by Christmas!
Alan KEYES 2012
Good morning misterbee
November 28, 2008 - 08:31 ET by cocodrieYou're right about the moon. My daddy was born in 1902 and I in 1939. Between the two of us we saw everything from the beginnings of the automobike to space travel. I don't believe we will be able to select any particular event. The moon landing however was fantastic.
My list of moments in
November 28, 2008 - 09:14 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveMy list of moments in American History that eclipse the election of Obama to President:
The "shot heard 'round the world" at the Old North Bridge in Concord, Massachussetts.
The the signing of the Declaration of Independence (and it's subsequent delivery to King George).
The Signing of the Treaty of Paris.
The signing and ratification of the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights.
The completion of the Trans-Continental Railroad.
The Emancipation Proclamation and the resulting 13th Amendment to the Constitution.
Thomas Edison's lightbulb.
The Treaty of Versailles.
The adoption of the 19th Amendment.
D-Day (as previously mentioned).
The surrender of Germany and the fall of the Axis Powers.
Nuclear power (for both peaceful and military purposes).
The surrender of Japan.
The Berlin Airlift.
MacArthur's Landing and Invasion at Incheon.
Martin Luther King, Jr's "I Have a Dream."
Neil A. Armstrong putting boot-prints on the moon and returning safely.
The Iran Hostage Crisis.
The election of Ronald Reagan (x2) (I couldn't resist).
The Invasion of Grenada.
The fall of the Berlin Wall and subsequent crumbling of the Soviet Union (which wouldn't have happened as soon or suddenly if Reagan hadn't been elected).
Operation Desert Storm.
The liberation of Iraq from Saddam Hussein.
The Supreme Court Ruling on Heller vs. The District of Columbia.
...to name a few at least. By no means does this list contain everything of more importance than Obama's election. This is just off the top of my head.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon", 1942
Wow... with as much
November 27, 2008 - 19:27 ET by MidAmericaWow... with as much brain power that she exhibits a really hard sneeze could cause her to pass out.
It's hard to believe that
November 27, 2008 - 19:34 ET by stancoyleIt's hard to believe that someone could be so F#@%ing stupid!
well..
November 27, 2008 - 19:39 ET by dr_devil_dogyou exist, so its not that hard to believe.
Hey now...
November 27, 2008 - 19:47 ET by JPR1there's an intelligent converstation starter. What are you, like 12?
ddd
November 27, 2008 - 19:55 ET by Noel Sheppardddd,
We don't appreciate such personal attacks. Please refrain from doing so. ns
But Noel, Weren't
November 27, 2008 - 20:15 ET by flashkingBut Noel,
Weren't you personally attacking Teri Hatcher in this piece? You were clearly implying that she was borderline retarded.
Criticizing an opinion is
November 27, 2008 - 20:22 ET by GregECriticizing an opinion is not "attacking" the opinion holder.
Ironically enough -- If you
November 27, 2008 - 20:35 ET by flashkingIronically enough -- If you believe that, you're being silly: especially if you read the whole thread.
To reply to part one of
November 27, 2008 - 21:06 ET by GregETo reply to part one of your post, I don't just believe it, it's actually true. Do you believe that criticizing one's opinion is criticizing the person themselves, as a complete generalization of that person as a whole, instead of simply criticizing a single opinion on a single subject? I don't.
To reply to part two of your post, following the colon...."especially if you read the whole thread."
So that we are both referring to the same thing as a "thread," I'm referring to the part of this forum that begins with Stancoyle and ends with this post you are reading.
If you read Noel's original post, you will not find his "attacking" Hatcher, but you will find him criticizing ("attacking" if you prefer) her opinion, i.e. her comment. Then, in this "thread," the "attack" a on a person, as opposed to being on a an idea or comment, is by dr_devil_dog, not by Noel, yet you equate dr_devil_dog's post to Noel's Hatcher criticism by attempting to equate both as "attacks" on the person themselves when you query Noel. dr_devil_dog's is. Noel's is not. Noel was responding to dr_devil_dog's post.
well well
November 27, 2008 - 21:41 ET by fireballThe hemorhoid strikes again.
Let me guess...
November 27, 2008 - 19:44 ET by JPR1another hollywood actress with an advanced degree in NFC.
noel, great job.
November 27, 2008 - 20:11 ET by flashkingnoel,
great job.
Hey Flash, Give Noel a
November 27, 2008 - 20:37 ET by flashkingHey Flash,
Give Noel a little more respect. He's a respected guy around here and a lot of people - important people - take him very seriously.
FK -- What are you reading?
November 27, 2008 - 20:46 ET by flashkingFK --
What are you reading? Didn't you notice how your "respected" correspondent just posted this personal hit piece against Teri Hatcher -- instigating a slew of personal smears against the beautiful actress in the comments. And yet, Mr. Sheppard scolded on of the posters regarding "personal attacks." That particular miscreant just happened to challenge the guy who called MS Hatcher the F&*king stupidest person alive.
fks
November 27, 2008 - 21:05 ET by Noel Sheppardfks,
I wish the three of you a very Happy Thanksgiving. :-) ns
I'm dy'n over here!
November 27, 2008 - 21:19 ET by PeskyDaneI'm dy'n over here!
Tripotphan...
November 27, 2008 - 22:18 ET by JPR1affects some people in funny ways.
Also suspect someone may have a crush on Ms Hatcher.
Oh, golly gee, how silly of
November 27, 2008 - 20:18 ET by GregEOh, golly gee, how silly of her not to explain her implication, so allow me. What she probably meant was that it was the most historic moment in her personal portfolio of vast knowledge and remarkable understanding of American history.
Historic? Yes! But in what way?
November 27, 2008 - 20:19 ET by flyingmonkeyThe election of Barack Obama as the first president with an African American bloodline is indeed historic. But hardly the most historic. If anything, it's more like a milestone.
The truth is that the most historic thing about Obama's election is that he is the first Affirmative Action President.
When Jackie Robinson became the first black major league baseball player, it was because he was a standout star in the Negro Leagues which was full of standout stars. He had a track record as a great ball player. How about Obama?
Obama admits that he overindulged in both drugs and booze while in high school. We don't know what his grades were or how and why he was accepted into college. We don't know what his grades were at Occidental, Columbia, or Harvard. We do know that his unusual appointment as president of the Harvard Law Review was motivated by political correctness. We also know that unlike most constitutional lawyers and professors, he left no paper trail whatsoever. Even his best selling book was ghost written by a white friend. None of this mattered, because he was black.
Mr. Obama is a very unaccomplished man who has overachieved only because of his race. Geraldine Ferraro was correct when she noted that if he were white, he would never have had a chance. What's historic is that a majority of Americans were gullible enough to be taken in by a man whose only qualification is a glibness associated more with three card monte dealers.
Soooo....
November 27, 2008 - 23:56 ET by RINOSafariYou're saying that promises of hope and change do not make a man the greatest thing the world as ever seen? Hmmm, interesting.
When he walks on water in January, something tells me we'll need to remind these people that it's only because the reflecting pool is frozen.
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A little on the shallow side or just no knowledge of history?
November 27, 2008 - 20:22 ET by Army BratI guess we can blame it on the schools. I can think of a few events that might possibly surpass in importance the election of Obambi.
And...I have a question. I think perhaps some might consider it to be inappropriate but... I have to attempt to satisfy my curiosity on this subject.
If Obama is half African American or Black, and half Caucasian...how does that make him Black?
I thought that the proper term for such a person was "Mulatto".
I am Blackfoot American Indian and Irish, yet I don't consider myself to be an Indian. Nor am I an Irishman. I look "White" but Mostly, I'm American.
If one is a mix of any two races, can one then pick one or the other and claim to be that race?
Am I missing something? I see the t-shirts for sale that say, "My President is Black." If race wasn't a factor in this election why are so many making such a big deal out of it? ("Race" I mean.)
I really don't give a damn what color he is, or what he claims to be, so long as he doesn't screw us to death with Cap and Trade fraud, or stopping offshore drilling etc.. In other words, I will better form my opinion of him from his actions. So far his words scare the hell outta me.
Happy Trails...
Sorry, Army Brat but ...
November 28, 2008 - 15:02 ET by SentryDanSorry, Army Brat but you will have to go stand in the corner. You asked to many questions (3) and they were about race. That makes you politically incorrect.
You have to be careful. If this gets out the Obama Thought Police will be out to get you. All kinds of liberals will be digging into your background, trying to embarrass you.
But let me answer your questions:
1. If Obama is half African American or Black, and half Caucasian...how does that make him Black? It doesn't. First off, Obama is half white and maybe half black. This definately makes him mixed race.
2. If one is a mix of any two races, can one then pick one or the other and claim to be that race? In Obama's case, since he is "The Chosen One", he can be anything he pleases.
3. I see the t-shirts for sale that say, "My President is Black." If race wasn't a factor in this election why are so many making such a big deal out of it? The liberals, to quote them, "Wen ever made race a factor in the election. It was the conservatives." In actuality, it was "The Chosen One" himself who made race an issue in the election. And he did it quite often.
And, no you didn't miss anything. None of us who question "The Chosen One" missed anything. Keep the faith and pray that he has only one term as POTUS.
Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women of the U.S. Military.
Lois Lane misses the story
November 27, 2008 - 20:37 ET by nkviking75Teri probably believes she did a TV show with the real Superman back in the '90's. ("Lois and Clark", in case you've forgotten.)
Welcome to the era of unity, you racist!
Then again
November 27, 2008 - 20:44 ET by BobAnthonyWhen you star on the worst show on TV in Desperate Housewives, and are born in San Francisco like Hatcher is, you're bound to hear turkey puckey like that!
By the way, Hatcher, when you played Lois Lane on "Lois and Clark" Dean Cain carried that show. Superman ALWAYS carries whatever he stars in...except Superman Returns!
And if you were to ask me if I wanted to live on Wisteria Lane or Wistful Vista, the ficticious home of golden age of radio stars Fibber McGee and Molly, I'll take living next door to Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve and living with hearing Fibber's overstuffed closet fall all over him instead of those loose libido ladies.
And if Teri wants to laugh it off--T'AINT FUNNY TERI!
For the record, I am NOT RECOGNIZING BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ODINGA AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! I would like to become part of a
secession front!
Desperate....
November 27, 2008 - 21:05 ET by ashleye3592I agree! So many men and women have fought for our freedom (that we are slowly losing) and she thinks this is the most historic event in America's history! Now I understand why she is on DH!
Teri Hatcher aka Lois Lane
November 27, 2008 - 21:35 ET by CTLois Lane, isn't that like being Hollywood's version of the MSM?
Too bad, always had a thing for the sweet bimbett.
Her beliefs May Be Questionable But Her Butt Doesn't Bother Me
November 27, 2008 - 22:15 ET by Rush FanNoel wrote: "...those disinterested in hearing her talk about her rearend should forward to 2:00)"
I hope this doesn't seem sexist, but hearing Terri Hatcher talk about her rearend is the only worthwhile reason for watching the video.
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Beauty may only be skin deep but some beliefs can be ugly to the bone
She Should Have Kept Talking About Her A**
November 27, 2008 - 22:22 ET by rammingspeedTeri Hatcher just gave another example of the insular and deluded world of emotion-based liberalism. She's a soft, sweet bubble head living like a queen in movie land, never having to suffer consequences for believing this kind of foolishness. It's galling that someone like her has the opportunity speak to millions, many of whom are as simple as she is and will take her seriously. But she is what she is and they are what they are.
Obama has a Jimmy Carter sign around his neck. If he goes even close to what he says he will do, there'll be another round of throwing the bums out, starting in 2010. Ms. Hatcher won't get it then, either.
Uhhh.... Revolutionary
November 27, 2008 - 23:57 ET by JerryUhhh....
Revolutionary War
Declaration of Independence
U.S. Constitution
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
Civil War
Victory in WWI
VE Day
VJ Day
Wright Brothers historic flight
Benjamin Franklin discovers electricity
Neil Armstrong's one small step
Alexander Graham Bell - telephone
Jonas Salk - Polio vaccine
Thomas Edison - light bulb
Founding of NewsBusters
Just to name a few...
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
They say great minds
November 28, 2008 - 09:21 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveThey say great minds think alike.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." --Robert A. Heinlein, "Beyond This Horizon", 1942
Pop History
November 28, 2008 - 00:11 ET by easygoerThe election of 1860 is the most momentous and historic verdict the people of this nation have ever rendered. The election of 2008 doesn't even come close. Laughable. Hollywood idiocy; Is anybody shocked?
Poppy Bush seemed to like Teri Hatcher's glutes
November 28, 2008 - 00:42 ET by OxyConhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJZoai2HIeA
Can't blame him.
I wouldnt say its THE most
November 28, 2008 - 01:08 ET by hirogen73I wouldnt say its THE most important. But its up there.
The MOST historical?
November 28, 2008 - 05:27 ET by Michael30It seems to me that most of the moments that people have mentioned are correct. Were it not for the Declaration of Independence all the way up to the struggle for civil rights, none of this election would even be possible.
What of the many battles of the Civil War that brought us to this point? What of World War II? The integration of the Armed Services? Were these moments not beneficial to many?
The election of Obama will certainly help him, but what of the rest of ALL Americans, we have yet to see anything, he is not in office yet.
This election is historical, whether it is for the better of the nation or not is a seperate issue, but it lessens all other accomplishments to say that THIS is the most important or historical of them all.
I'll put it this way, some people love cake. However, where it not for the flour, eggs and milk, there would be no finished product. One cannot have the end result without all that went into it. Very rarely does one eat a piece of that cake and remark that they can taste the egg in it, but they enjoy the END result nonetheless. That's the problem with end results, people tend to forget the parts that make up the whole.
In our case as a nation, that usually means soldiers and citizens that sacraficed everything they had to make it possible for others to have more.
I understand the enthusiasm of some people, but this sort of thinking can get way out of hand. Senator Obama is a man, nothing more and nothing less.
Mike
Semantics
November 28, 2008 - 06:30 ET by easygoerThe original post by Noel was about Teri Hatcher's view that the election of 2008 was most historic moment ever. That assertion is laughable. My prior post made the point that the 1860 election was more historic. It was, in fact, the most significant election in American history. I do not believe that can be disputed. I am not talking about the invention of the wheel, the printing press, Wright brothers etc.
I'm not very creative...
November 28, 2008 - 06:49 ET by Michael30My name is Michael, I am 30, hence the name.
I agree with you though, all my life I have heard that "This is the most important moment in history."
My father lived through Vietnam and he heard the same. He heard the peace movement in the U.S. and the civil rights struggle. He also heard about communist aggression and the domino theory.
My Great-Uncle was a combat engineer in WWII and while raising me, he said he heard the same. He heard about German militarism and Japanese imperialism.
My cousin was a soldier in the first Gulf War and said he was stopping evil where it stood, with a rifle in hand.
God knows how many people in the Civil War stood with a weapon marching into certain death for God, Honor and Country, not always in that order.
But those were conflicts that we all had countrymen and relatives fighting for, if not fighting ourselves. Those were defining moments for the nation and us as a whole. Americans reached a point and basically put it all on the line screaming into darkness that it would encroach no further.
Now people equate that to an election.
It sometimes bothers me that people take these things too seriously. I constantly hear Senator Obama referred to as a savior from the same people I sometimes work for, I went to university with, and they blindly follow him. That can be dangerous.
People are smarter than that, or at least they should strive to be. Whether or not Sen. Obama will fail is for time to decide, but it gets out of hand when people say that this is the most important time in American history. It spits on the memory of all the people that brought us to this point.
I'm sorry if I seem to be rambling, but it is disturbing to hear at times, because it has happened so many times before that people look to a mortal politician as if they were something else. It never ends well.
Mike
Rush Limbaugh often says
November 28, 2008 - 07:14 ET by motherbeltRush Limbaugh often says that for most people, "history" begins on the day they were born.
I agree; "history" tends to mean what people remember in their lifetimes. So maybe for Ms. Hatcher, this is true.
You must mean
November 28, 2008 - 07:27 ET by ahusserThat she was born yesterday. I know there were very momentous, and important historical events before I was born. But then I have been edjamicated in history foreign and domestic.
Change: When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles. (On a Poster)
I believe
November 28, 2008 - 06:59 ET by ahusserLibs seem to have extensive ADD. They dont seem to remember anything longer than several weeks (except McCarthyism, but that is because it is brought up every several days in whatever snit they are in at the moment). And they usually go right to the hyperbolic (you know Bush=hitler, Obama=greatest, or genius or historic). They find it very hard to put events in any perspective, historical or otherwise and they are usually incredibly ignorant of historical events. I find libs to be prone to faddishness, excited, emotive, non-reflective, delusional, lack maturity (hence the love for 'nanny government) and are prone to magical thinking. But then I am not a psych and could be full of it.
Change: When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles. (On a Poster)
Obama
November 28, 2008 - 06:58 ET by WorriedThe majority of Obama voters don't know much about him, unfortunately, and don't know much about American history (Teri Hatcher for example). That's what so frightening. I live in Denver and there is a talk show host Peter Boyles that has been on the Obama birth certificate issue. He receives lots of calls and emails but on more than one occasion he has talked to callers whom he has asked what if it were true about his not being a natural born citizen. Their response has been THEY DON'T CARE which means the Constitution doesn't matter (plus the idiots don't even know what the Constitution is, in my opinion). So I take the election of Obama not as historical but as scary. If he does what he has promised on so many issues, we are screwed and the damage he leaves behind will be historical.
No Judge(s)
November 28, 2008 - 07:05 ET by ahusseris/are going to declare Obama ineligible. The legal pretzel opinion will be a wonder to behold. It seems to me there should be a formal vetting process where each candidate proves once he announces his candidacy that he qualifies constitutionally before he can become a candidate. Almost all jobs have qualifications that must be met and the candidates for those jobs usually have to prove it. I don't see how he could pass a security clearance or gain a passport even with his dubious 'citizenship'.
Change: When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles. (On a Poster)
Which is why
November 28, 2008 - 08:44 ET by BobAnthonyI am now a member of the Constitution Party, THE REAL REPUBLICAN PARTY!
For the record, I am NOT RECOGNIZING BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ODINGA AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! I would like to become part of a
secession front!
Message to B.A.
November 28, 2008 - 08:49 ET by Sergeant ROCKTone it down with your Constitution Party gobble-dee-gook! Conservatives need to abandon their principles and get on board with democRAT-lite crowd so we can win elections. Afterall, it's all about winning, not principled beliefs!
Alan KEYES 2012
boy, she's been around along time
November 28, 2008 - 08:24 ET by tonemeisterdid you hear about the new movie that terry hatcher and madonna are making ... it's called "desperately seeking intelligence"
I guess it is really too
November 28, 2008 - 10:29 ET by sherylsimsI guess it is really too soon to tell if his election is "historic" at all. Lets say he does something overwhelmingly wonderful during his presidency (not holding my breath, but...) or if he does something really terrible (like we all assume he might) Then perhaps people might one day say his election was "historic". But at this point there is just no way to say... just because he is half black (not even half, really) is no reason to go all over the top about him.
I am too lazy to page up but
November 28, 2008 - 11:06 ET by ahussera blogger above used 'hysterical' rather than 'historical' and I agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. I also think 'hyterical' applies in both its meanings to Obama's election : comedic and emotionally over the top.
Change: When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles. (On a Poster)
The election of Barrack
November 28, 2008 - 14:57 ET by R D HelmThe election of Barrack Hussein Obama was a historic moment, alright, but not for the reasons most people think.
It sort of reminded me of the 1976 election. Only worse. :-(
-Dave
When in doubt, always side with freedom, as it sure beats the hell out of the alternative.
Another more important moment in history
November 28, 2008 - 15:28 ET by mizflame98I don't know Terry, this might be more important than "The One" being chosen. Just a stretch I suppose. It's also nice to hear that Terry's ass is just as important as Obama's win. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
Perfect Demotivator for the Obama Administration
http://www.despair.com/government.html
Ahhhh, very good, not only
November 28, 2008 - 22:39 ET by GregEAhhhh, very good, not only would the Emancipation Proclamation be just a weeee bit more important historically than "The One" as president, it actually was the #1 necessary PREREQUISITE to the messiah's election.
Leave Teri alone.
November 29, 2008 - 22:31 ET by moovovaAfter all, she's an actress. She lives in a fantasy world.
She Might be right
December 2, 2008 - 10:04 ET by buzzkill3rTo be fair, we don't know (yet) that Obama's election wasn't the most historic moment in American history, but we will find out in the next 4 years... Depending on how BO 'rules' this country, it may even be the last moment in real 'American' history.
That bubblehead might be on to something...
On another note.... why does Letterman always look like he is one mugshot away from being a registered child molester?