If McCain wins, he should give Joe the Plumber twice as big of a tax cut that he would have been getting under McCain's plan. :-) 

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

They have degreees from all the "right" universities.  They think they're smarter than us and therefore should take care of us.  Then that attitude is reinforced at their swank cocktail and dinner parties.

Then along comes Mr. Wurzelbacher and takes these clowns (who've never had to make a payroll, i.e. create a job) to school on how the real world works.

Good on ya', Joe.  Good on ya'!

"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa

The next thing you're going to hear about Joe -  from annonomous sources - is that he belongs to a renagade political party trying to get Ohio to secede from the U.S.

Why don't you people, who get paid millions to ask stupid questions, and your multi-millionaire celebrity limo-lib friends (who love to tell us lowly fly-overites who selfish and ignorant we all are) bear the brunt of an extremely aggressive tax policy and leave small businessmen like Joe alone.  Show us how you can spread the wealth around.  Maybe, if you spread enough wealth around some of those people you're trying to help will move into your exclusive neighborhoods and you can take them for rides on your yachts and in your limos.  You can enthrall them with you wisdom.

C'mon, Diane, step up to the plate; be patriotic; give up some of that wealth for your fellow Americans.

Hey Noel .. also..

.. right off the top, Obama just out and out lied to Joe. Obama said, "we haven't given a break to folks who make less." He was comparing "them folks" to wealthier folks - like himself, who did receive tax breaks.

For the record, the Bush administration did in fact give poorer folks significant tax breaks -  the 15% lower bracket was cut to 10% (a 50% reduction); child credits were increased significantly; and the marriage penalty tax was fixed - and it helped a ton. Middle class worker's - still those making much less than "rich folks like Obama" received rather a significant reduction in tax liability. Off the top of my head - I'd guess that the average family of 4 with a combined adjusted gross income in the low 100,000's (Obama was talking about these folks here) are paying an easy $3,500 less in federal income taxes today, compared to 2000.

Obama lied to the plumber. We did give breaks to the folks who make less.

Also, I'm a bit curious about the capital gains tax savings that Obama is talking about giving Joe's new business, if it does well? What's the capital gain here? Is he going to sell that business?
(;~> gary

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Surprise MSM ! ! there is A lot MORE where these came from.

AP is saying McCain Won the debate and if the MSM keeps interviewing Joe Plumber the MSM is going to lose it for BHO !
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

the MSM frenzy to get an interview with Joe just came to an abrupt halt...

Here is the BIG question.

How did
Joe the Plumber get to the point where he is today, ready to purchase a plumbing
business under Bush's "failing" economic policies??

 How does the MSM explain how Joe is able to accomplish this feat
without Senator Governments help?

Maybe because all he needed was a desire to become independantly successful
and an alarm clock.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it"-Aristotle

Joe the Plumber could very well be a game changer, and I'm praying for just that. If people need an easy list to prove to people that Obama truly is a Socialist, simply copy 1 thru 12 here... The Case For Not Voting Obama 

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I want a Wurzelbacher/Palin ticket!

 They're my kind of people. REAL. Not elitists. Hardcore, true Americans.

Diane Sawyer seemed a bit snobbish didnt she.  She was implying that he shouldn't care because he doesnt make over $250,000 anyway.  Joe, like most Americans who don't make that much get the point.  Obama saying "spread the wealth" is un-American.  Americans do not want money from anyone else except what they have earned themselves.  Most Americans don't view themselves as charity cases like Obama views us.  We don't want handouts, we don't want "rich" people's money. We just want the opportunity to work hard, keep our jobs and make money for ourselves. Obama will make the American dream unattainable.

I'm not going to work and allow my tax money to go to illegal imigrants who don't pay taxes.   There is no way to follow the money trail once he raises taxes. We will never know whether its my income tax money or Trump's tax dollars will go to the 'tax-break' to illegal immigrants who don't pay taxes .  I'm always going to assume its mine and I will never accept that.    If we want to give it to charity, we will. Americans as a nation give more to charity than the government ever will and have helped more people in the private sector than the government does as well.

Joe the plumber speaks for all Americans that just want to succeed by working hard, not by sitting on their asses and waiting for govt handouts.

New RNC comercial

 "Joe knows commies"

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985

 I don't jive with the fact checkers after the debate. Thay said that 98% of small business owners make less than 250k. That unfortunately isn't how income tax works. It's gross not net. Net most don't, but with gross that number is 64%. See when you add on the property, assets, and how much you make before your expenses it's eating alot of people. Obama's numbers is for net income after everything is deducted. But unfortunately the IRS doesn't do there math like that. nbc,abc and cnn all got it wrong, and I'm suppose to beleve that when they get a basic tax question wrong, and wrong for every debate. O i forgot there bias so it's ok. like i said either he need a accountant or the news needs to be less bias.
I just had a revelation, how he said it business OWNERS, he's right most small business owners don't, but the businesses themselves do. So he's not lieing. of course he's not telling the whole truth. I get his ways now, owners get a credit, there businesses get 25% increase. it's true joe the plummer is going out of business. but joe is getting a tax break, unfortunately he has no job, so he'll be needing it.

My husband owns a small plumbing business in a small town, and even though he only has one employee, the 250k is not an unreasonable amount for a small business to pull in. But that is the business income, out of which comes taxes, materials, payroll, insurance, and all those little necessary incidentals. Our personal income is less that 25% of that, but, alot of the income we have to claim as personal is paid out for taxes...example: because of what the business makes, our quarterly taxes might be $2500. federal, so we have to take an owners draw for that amount just to pay the taxes, above and beyond what we give ourselves in a normal (non-tax month)... do that 4 times a year and it looks like you did pretty well, but really, look how much went to the government...and BO wants to tack more onto that, sorry, but he has never worked as hard in a week as my hard-working hubby does in a day.

Go Joe the Plumber! Speak up every chance you get!

Someone needs to explain progressive taxation to Joe the P.

After the successful run of the McCain / Palin administration, (I think he'll only go with one-term) I say we go with the following:

Palin / "Joe The Plumber" 2012! 

Kevin D. Bakko

Obama's plan is a lie that pretends to be for the "middle class", another term from marx, but it is in fact not. The way of a marxist is to pretend to be for the middle class and then step on them once power is seized and that is what Obama's plan is going to do. Anyone that believes Obama is going to cut taxes for 95% of workers is a brainless idiot.

Because 38% of Americans don't pay income taxes that means most of that 38% is going to get welfare checks in the mail. Now how is it possible for the upper 5% to fund a trillion dollars in new spending and welfare for 38% of our population?

According to the Tax Policy Center, Obama's tax plan alone would increase government spending by 68.4 billion dollars per year and the best part is many taxpayers making $20,000-$50,000 a year would in fact be helping the top 5% pay for the welfare.

His plan would also eliminate income taxes for 15 million households, which means the number of people who pay no income tax would go from 38% to 48%.

From CNSnews.com:

"Obama’s biggest refund, and the one most likely to go to non-taxpayers, is his Making Work Pay credit, which would give $500-$1000 to everyone making under $200-250,000 a year.  This proposal, which the Tax Policy Center says is “intended to offset the regressivity of payroll taxes,” would cost taxpayers $323.4 billion during Obama’s first term, if elected."

See the full article http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=37519

"Push back the liberal hordes!!" - Mark Levin

It's a good sign the "average guy" has some kind of voice in this campaign, and that he has an intelligent challenge to Obama's tax policy.

Color me surprised.

It is really disconcerting how completely disconnected the MSM has become from ordinary Americans.

Sad that so many Americans still haven't figured this out.

-Dave

Joe the Plumber for President!