NewsBusters has frequently reported the deplorable connection between MSNBC's Keith Olbermann and the Clinton front-organizations Media Matters and Think Progress.
On Friday, conservative radio host Glenn Beck marvelously illustrated just how this liberal alliance works, and showed how a few sentences transcribed by Olbermann's minions and taken out of context can easily be used to completely misrepresent their meaning and what the speaker was actually saying.
After being named one of "Countdown's" Worst Persons in the World for comments he made on his CNN Headline News program Tuesday, Beck deliciously explained how Olbermann, Media Matters, and Think Progress worked together to intentionally distort his words (audio available here, liberal website alert!):
GLENN BECK, HOST: You know what I am? You know what I am?
DAN ANDROS, PRODUCER: He doesn't deserve this.
GLENN: I am a multiwinner, multitime winner of worst person in the world. That's what I am, okay?
STU BURGUIERE, EXECUTIVE PRODUCER: That's true.
GLENN: And I think that's something to be proud of. I have just been crowned yet again worst person in the world by Keith Olbermann.
STU: And something -- I mean, you need to take this seriously. He is a smart man.
GLENN: He's a journalist, you know.
STU: Yeah, he's a journalist.
GLENN: He's a journalist. Media Matters I believe types stuff right directly into his TelePrompTer.
STU: No, no, I think this he have to copy and paste it.
GLENN: Do they really?
STU: If the connection is down, they do have to copy and paste it.
GLENN: Here's where -- watch this connection. This is a three-part miniseries that you're going to so enjoy. Here is Keith Olbermann dubbing me the worst person in the world. Go ahead.
KEITH: The bronze to Glenn Beck asking his guest, John McCain's pro apocalypse Hagee say, you've got to wake up, Barack Obama's making people cry and faint and everything else. There are people, and they say this about Bill Clinton who believe that he might even be the antichrist. Odds that Barack Obama is the antichrist? Why do you ask, Glenn? Worried about somebody giving you competition?
GLENN: Stop. Okay.
STU: (Laughing).
GLENN: That's funny.
STU: Oh, my God. How did he come up with doing the same joke you did? Oh, God, whew.
GLENN: Hang on, hang on. First of all, let's just notice that he was reading it. He didn't play audio from it. Now, why wouldn't he play audio? He had to read it. "And they say, Glenn, you've got to wake up. Don't you know that Barack Obama's making people pass out? So tell me, Pastor Hagee, is he the -- what are the odds that he is the antichrist?" Notice? And notice he also doesn't say Pastor Hagee's response. And notice also that he says that Pastor Hagee is pro Armageddon. I think we all are, aren't we? I mean, bring on the end of the world! Yeah!
All right. So why didn't he play the audio? Maybe because, listen to the audio and tell me if this sounds like a serious question to Pastor Hagee.
GLENN: Let me ask you -- because I get so much e-mail on this and I think a lot of people do and I've only got a couple of seconds. They say, Glenn, you in the media, you've got to wake up. Barack Obama's making people faint and cry and everything else and he's drawing people in and there are people, and they said this about Bill Clinton, that actually believe he might be the antichrist. Odds that Barack Obama is the antichrist.
PASTOR HAGEE: No chance. He has a lot of charisma. There's a media love affair with him right now. He is a very forgivable political person.
Do you see what Olbermann did here? He completely ignored the set-up to Beck's question. Take a close look at what was conveniently missing from Olbermann's transcript of Beck's statements:
Let me ask you -- because I get so much e-mail on this and I think a lot of people do and I've only got a couple of seconds. They say, Glenn, you in the media...
As such, Beck was posing a question raised by others, and, as can plainly be seen from the video below, doing it in a humorous fashion which gave no credence whatsoever to the notion that Obama is the anti-Christ. In fact, he was clearly belittling it as you can see here:
Not what Olbermann represented on Wednesday, was it? Now, let's look at how Think Progress transcribed Beck's words in its posting on Tuesday (emphasis theirs):
Beck: ‘Is Obama the Antichrist?’Today on his CNN Headline News show, Glenn Beck asked Pastor John Hagee whether Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is the embodiment of evil:
There are people — they say this about Bill Clinton — he might be the anti-Christ. Odds that Barack Obama is the Antichrist?
Here's how Media Matters reported it Wednesday:
As the blog Think Progress noted, Beck wrapped up his interview with Hagee by asking him if Sen. Barack Obama might be the Antichrist: "There are people -- and they said this about Bill Clinton -- that actually believe he might be the Antichrist. Odds that Barack Obama is the Antichrist?" Hagee responded: "No chance." Beck has previously said of Sen. Hillary Clinton, "I think we may have found our Antichrist and our next president."
Interesting, yes? All three entities ignored Beck's set-up:
Let me ask you -- because I get so much e-mail on this and I think a lot of people do and I've only got a couple of seconds. They say, Glenn, you in the media...
Why do you think ALL THREE entities did that? Well, Beck had the answer:
GLENN: Okay, notice that I'm laughing all the way through it, if you could even see the audio, which, if he played the audio he would have to play the video. If you could actually see the video, you could see that I'm laughing as I say it, as I ask the question. Well, here's the best part, because what picked this up originally was, I don't even know, Think Progress. Think Progress, yes. Let's Think Progress. Do you know Progressive has "Progress" in it? It must be good. Think Progress is the first that picked this up on the blog. They're like, Glenn Beck thinks that maybe Media Matters then picked up the story and put a Glenn Beck think maybe and then they cut and pasted and put it in the TelePrompTer for Keith Olbermann: Glenn Beck thinks maybe he's the worst person in the world! Then Media Matters reported that Keith Olbermann reported the story that Media Matters reported that Keith Olbermann should report. So if they could just now get Media Matters to alert Think Progress and so Think Progress could report that Media Matters reported that Keith Olbermann reported what Media Matters reported that Think Progress reported originally, it would be a feedback loop that would never end and everything would be perfect in the world.
The reason, the reason this is so unbelievably entertaining is because obviously the truth doesn't matter, but even more is it is so very predictable. In fact, it's so predictable, on what date, Stu?
STU: February 20th, Glenn.
GLENN: On February 20th, on this program I predicted this very thing to happen. Listen to the audio.
Archive: By the way, this is all going to be transcribed by Media Matters today as a completely dead serious conversation.That's correct Glenn: one source directly tied to the Clintons. And nobody in the mainstream media -- especially not the good folks at MSNBC -- seems to care.
GRAY: I know, I know.
GLENN: There are going to be media alerts: Glenn Beck announces Obama is the antichrist. You watch, it's going to be everywhere.
And it was. Well, it was on three really credible sources. Think Progress, Media Matters, and Keith Olbermann, which is weird because I say it's three sources when actually it's really only one.
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Think Progress
March 8, 2008 - 13:13 ET by allanfHere are some commments from the Think Progress web site. I am sure you will enjoy the enlightened reasoning and robust arguments.
FROM THINK PROGRESS
On the offchance that Beck may actually visit the site I would like to welcome him.
Beck, shove a big stick up your ass.
Comment by nanlichi — March 7, 2008 @ 5:39 pm
Glen I’m sure your mother was laughing all the way through you conception, it may have been the roofies your dad gave her, or it may just mean your entire existence is a joke…
Comment by Chocolate Jesus — March 7, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
So, then, Glenny boy, the implication is that you consider the whole subject of the anti-christ, and by inference the christ, to be just a joke?
Well, then, I guess you have something in common with many progressives.
Shall we send you a bumper sticker?
Comment by Nevar — March 7, 2008 @ 5:42 pm
Gotta love those
March 8, 2008 - 13:16 ET by motherbeltGotta love those "sensitive" liberals
But hey, they would never utter the "N" word.....
Okay...I will...
March 8, 2008 - 15:48 ET by Syrius...Nut Job! He's an absolute Nut Job! Money & Ratings, you go Glenn! Did ya know he's Mormon? Such the hater...
Thanks for posting all his critics' comments. It's just like watching Fox News running a piece on "Girls gone wild!" ad nauseum. Not that an upstanding morally superior conservative would ever buy the trashy garbage video nor support it. It's better for them when they can just tune in & see it for free on Fox News. So, keep posting those trashy comments for all to see.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Where is my Syrius to
March 8, 2008 - 15:55 ET by Chris NormanWhere is my Syrius to English dictionary? Darn, I can't find it anywhere. No matter...
LOL...I wouldn't give it a
March 8, 2008 - 15:57 ET by bigtimerLOL...I wouldn't give it a second thought if I were you Chris...
Tell me, please, tell me.
March 8, 2008 - 16:07 ET by SyriusCN, BT, & the rest of the NBers,
Do all of you support the likes of Beck & Hagee?!?
Syrius
"The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike
against Iran to fulfill God’s plan for both Israel and the West… a
biblically prophesied end-time confrontation with Iran, which will lead
to the Rapture, Tribulation, and Second Coming of Christ."-Pastor John Hagee
It seems that you maybe pre-judge people
March 8, 2008 - 16:10 ET by Free StinkerI don't support/listen to Beck. If people here didn't mention the guy, I wouldn;t even know who he was.
Perhaps your problem is the assumptions you make about people, or groups of people. It seems that you maybe pre-judge people.
Pledge to not support RINOs ever again!
Sy... <sigh>....I support
March 8, 2008 - 16:19 ET by bigtimerSy...
<sigh>....I support about 90% of what Beck says...
Why?
Don't know Hagee other than what I have seen and heard lately in the msm...seems McCain decided it is now safe to come out and denounce what he has said about Catholics well after the Texas primary and the endorsement from him...conveniently.
Again I ask....Why?
What is it to you?
BT, WOW!!!!
March 8, 2008 - 16:49 ET by SyriusBT,
WOW!!!! 90%!!!!
What 10% of his comments do you not support?
I'm just getting a better understanding of the radical right wing and its many followers. Thanks.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
No Sy...you are just
March 8, 2008 - 16:57 ET by bigtimerNo Sy...you are just trollin'...
As usual.
*sigh*
-
March 9, 2008 - 13:26 ET by dahliatraversBigtimer - you Radical Right Winger, you!
the type of liberal argument I'm used to
March 10, 2008 - 06:51 ET by theduck6I use that term advisedly as most of the time when I debate a point with a liberal it decays rapidly to frothing " Bush Sucks, Cheney, HALLIBURTON, Arrrgh, hiss spit. Don't bother me with facts, my mind is made up!"
Willing to bet you've never REAAAALLY listened to Glen, have you? He doesn't suffer hypocrisy well. He'll call out a conservative in a heartbeat if they don't do as they say they do. As he should.
Maybe next time you'll form a complete thought. Maybe.
Do all of you support the
March 8, 2008 - 16:32 ET by SMGalbraithDo all of you support the likes of Beck & Hagee?!?
The question on the table is whether MSNBC news anchor Keith Olbermann accurately characterized Beck's comments. It's not whether one is fan of either Hagee or Beck (FWIW Hagee is a bigot and I'm, well, agnostic on Beck; although what Beck and Hagee have to do with this topic mystifies me)
It's pretty clear that Beck was joking in asking whether Obama is the anti-Christ.
And yet the news anchor Olbermann on his news program "Coutndown", relying solely on liberal websites, criticized Beck for asking the question.
Do you think Olbermann was accurately reporting Beck's statements?
Implying that Obama is the Anti-Christ?
March 8, 2008 - 16:44 ET by SyriusSMG,
Joking, half-joking...why ask a lunatic pastor?
Olberman got it right & off-handedly, jokingly shot the "Anti-Christ" comment back to Beck. Money & Ratings for all.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Bill Clinton is most likely the Anti-Christ.
March 8, 2008 - 16:48 ET by Free StinkerNo, no, no, no, no!
IMHO, Bill Clinton is most likely the Anti-Christ.
FS, Do you think Monica
March 8, 2008 - 16:52 ET by SyriusFS,
Do you think Monica found the 666 mark?
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
She just might
March 8, 2008 - 16:59 ET by Free StinkerShe just might have.
LOL!
She probably found it, then
March 10, 2008 - 13:02 ET by steviep831She probably found it, then lost it, found it, then lost it....
Olberman got it right &
March 8, 2008 - 16:54 ET by SMGalbraithOlberman got it right & off-handedly, jokingly shot the "Anti-Christ" comment back to Beck. Money & Ratings for all.
Please, you've been defending Olbermann at this site on every question raised about him.
It's clear that Beck was joking in asking the question. He even said so afterward.
And yet Olbermann, relying on liberal websites, got the context of the question completely wrong.
Do you think Olbermann's journalism is fair, accurate and objective?
To be blunt, I think you're playing a game here with your "conservative" credentials. Sock puppetry and all that.
SMG, A little
March 8, 2008 - 17:36 ET by SyriusSMG,
A little clarification on my views, I'm more in line with the traditional conservative fiscal side instead of the current government expansion and deficit spending types that have taken over the GOP. I tend to enjoy having my rights not taken away from me. I don't agree with the current Administration. I look forward to a more moderate approach to governance where every American, right or left, is represented in its process. As for the war in Iraq, the best way to support the troops is to start giving them hope in seeing the US again. Bring'em home. Refit and Rebuild our forces so they can fight our enemies from an even stronger position.
As for Olberman, he's humorous and enjoyable to watch. Sure, he gets it wrong sometimes, he's human. At least, he apologizes when he makes a mistake. That's refreshing to see. Hell, I know I have in the past.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
As for Olberman, he's
March 8, 2008 - 17:48 ET by SMGalbraithAs for Olberman, he's humorous and enjoyable to watch. Sure, he gets it wrong sometimes, he's human. At least, he apologizes when he makes a mistake. That's refreshing to see. Hell, I know I have in the past.
Please, he almost never acknowledges error.
His reliance, as documented here and elswhere, on liberal website for his stories is something that no objective and professional news anchor should do. If they do use those sources, they should completely vet them for accuracy. Then, a fair reporter would ask the person being reported on if he or she would like to respond to the story.
From everything I've read about his journalism, Olbermann follows none - none - of those standards. When has he allowed someone to come on the show to defend his criticism of them? Can you name one figure? Just one?
As to the question on the table (the one you wish to ignore): Was Olbermann's characterization of Beck's comment an accurate and fair one?
Secondly, do you think Olbermann's news show is a fair, balanced and objective source of news?
Third, as to your views on Iraq: I must say I have no idea as to what you're advocating. Bring the troops home to let them recover and fight our enemies from a stronger position where?
How do we fight our enemies in Iraq - that's where some of them are - when our troops are stateside?
Abandoning Iraq to al-Qaeda makes no sense if we have to go back two or three years from now and fight them again.
I tend to enjoy having my
March 8, 2008 - 18:13 ET by MrShyI tend to enjoy having my rights not taken away from me.
the best way to support the troops is to start giving them hope in seeing the US again. Bring'em home.
Refit and Rebuild our forces so they can fight our enemies from an even stronger position.
Ugh, three worn-out lefty talking points and MSM-fabricated "realities".
And I won't even start with your leniency on that ugly, dark radical-leftist, KO. FYI: something like him/it is the definition of anything "radical" party-wise, not NB, as you called this a radical right wing site on an earlier post.
I'm with SMG on these suspicious "conservative" credentials you claim to have.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Whining defeatism on parade, Syriusly
March 9, 2008 - 12:07 ET by UnsaneI tend to enjoy having my rights not taken away from me. I have been reading your mewling posts for some time now, and I find your whining about this unconvincing. If you REALLY cared about defending your rights, you would join that organization that protects and defends them...you know, the U.S. military.
Of course, you also whine, bitch and scream constantly about how your rights are being taken away without offering any concrete examples. Rest assured, I have fewer rights than you have. Instead of being an ingrate, you should enjoy them and be thankful of those who protect and defend them.
As for the war in Iraq, the best way to support the troops is to start giving them hope in seeing the US again. Bring'em home. Sweetie, I don't friggin' need YOU to "give me hope of seeing the US again". I'll be back soon enough, happy to know that I did my part to advance the cause of freedom in another part of the world. Nor do I hear my troops around me pining constantly for home...sure, we kinda miss not having to walk over 10 feet to relieve ourselves in the middle of the night (example), but them's the breaks and we ALL volunteered. We ALL knew what we were getting into and took the plunge anyways.
Don't tell ME that you support me by aching with all your might to surrender.
Refit and Rebuild our forces so they can fight our enemies from an even stronger position. Ummm...rebuild and refit? That's an awfully defeatist phrase, considering we have not been beaten. I prefer the term "upgrade", and that we can do while doing our jobs here. And fight our enemies from an even stronger position? What stronger position that in their own neighborhood. I'd rather we take the bad guys on in Baghdad, not Boston, as you seem to prefer.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Syrius
March 9, 2008 - 12:26 ET by RESTLESS 1You have made claim about rights being taken away for quite some time now with no verification. You liberals whine a squeal like little pigs about the Patriot Act, and having the govt. listen in on overseas phone calls from suspected terrorists, saying that American's privacy is being eroded, but you cannot prove any citizen has had their rights abridged by this administration's policies. Either prove it or cut it out. It is wearing very thin.
Restless & Unsane
March 9, 2008 - 12:48 ET by MrShyYou're totally right, and I never think to make this counter-argument. There has not been even one story/example of any citizen coming forward, saying "the government eaves-dropped on me!" or "my rights were violated when...", or anything. NOT ONE.
It's all much-ado about not just nothing, but absolutely nothing, by all people who simply can't stand that Bush is in office.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Yup, I've been wondering
March 9, 2008 - 13:20 ET by dahliatraversYup, I've been wondering about that myself.
The way it's talked about, George Bush (with whom I have other issues) single-handedly tossed out the Constitution and now we're living in Cuba or the USSR or something.
You're about as conservative as...
March 10, 2008 - 07:31 ET by theduck6well, Howard Dean, Dennis Kusinich, Orca Kennedy and Barak .
You really don't understand conservatives or you would be better at imitating one.
Forget it.
March 8, 2008 - 17:07 ET by Chris NormanForget it.
"the likes of Beck and
March 8, 2008 - 16:40 ET by Chris Norman"the likes of Beck and Hagee"?
Like Olbermann, you're lumping them in together. Is this a sleazy technique that liberals learn from a playbook? From the transcript, I don't know that Beck agrees with Hagee. He was interviewing him and asked him a question. I generally somewhat agree with Beck, yes. I don't really care if you have a problem with it. In fact, knowing your own politics, I'd be rather glad if you did. As a not very religious Catholic, I suspect I have very little in common with Hagee. So, don't dare try to link my political beliefs in with his.
Syrius
March 8, 2008 - 16:50 ET by Noel SheppardSyrius,
Do all of you support the likes of Beck & Hagee?!?
Support them? Until this recent flap with McCain, I had never heard of Hagee. As for Beck, I've listened to his radio show and watched his television program a few times, but don't consider myself to be a fan. I don't really have the time to listen to much radio or watch much television during the week. Do you?
Regardless, as SMG responded, our likes are irrelevant. The issue here is whether KO, with the assistance of Clinton fronts, misrepresented what Beck said. Period. ns
Noel, Radio- C-Span on
March 8, 2008 - 17:05 ET by SyriusNoel,
Radio- C-Span on the way to work.
TV- I try to watch Countdown & Bill-O periodically just to get a sense of both sides. Both can be quite humorous.
The Web- NB site for a look into the radical right POV-(kudos to the civility of the NBers, by the way, even though it's pretty lopsided in favor of the right), Wonkette for some great humor skewering every side of the spectrum, and Air America, rarely, for the way-left reactions to the right. Always looking for a balance in this crazy twisted world. It's fun to be a part of it. Cheers.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Syrius
March 8, 2008 - 17:15 ET by Noel SheppardSyrius,
Well, you didn't answer my question concerning whether KO misrepresented what Beck said.
Regardless, there is no balance in this crazy twisted world because there's no money in it and no way to exploit it politically. Everything now is based on extremes. Everything. Not just politics, but entertainment, fashion, you name it.
Sadly, you really have to wonder where all these extremes will lead us as a nation and a species. Although I consider myself a mostly optimistic person, I have a lot of concerns about the future as a result. ns
Noel, IMO, Olberman has
March 8, 2008 - 17:49 ET by SyriusNoel,
IMO, Olberman has no love for Beck and doesn't care if he stretches the truth just a tad. He put a toenail over the line and usually is preaching to the choir anyway.
Raising one's consciousness will be the only way to a certain amount of balance between the extremes. Actually, most everyone in this great nation of ours is not as extreme as they're made out to be. Only when you become anonymous and attack with out retribution for your actions does the "bad side" appear. I've seen it on this site and other sites way too often. At the very least, the profanity on this site is kept to an absolute minimum- kudos to the mastheads. I'm optimistic, too.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
"IMO, Olberman has no love
March 8, 2008 - 17:55 ET by Chris Norman"IMO, Olberman has no love for Beck and doesn't care if he stretches the truth just a tad. He put a toenail over the line and usually is preaching to the choir anyway."
So, this somehow answers Noel's question and makes what Olbermann did acceptable?
So, this somehow answers
March 8, 2008 - 18:09 ET by SMGalbraithSo, this somehow answers Noel's question and makes what Olbermann did acceptable?
He's dancing all around the question, that's for sure.
Apparently he hates Beck and likes Olbermann and therefore what the latters says about the former is just fine.
Odd that someone who says he (I assume it's a he) opposes extremism is also a fan of someone like Olbermann who regularly calls people fascists and Nazis and smears them using baseless accounts from ideological websites.
Apparently some extremism is acceptable if it serves a good cause.
And we know what that cause is.
If he's asking us to believe
March 8, 2008 - 18:17 ET by Chris NormanIf he's asking us to believe his is the high road of political discourse, he certainly has picked as a traveling companion one who isn't familiar with that particular route.
Syrius (& Noel)
March 8, 2008 - 18:07 ET by MrShyAt the very least, the profanity on this site is kept to an absolute minimum- kudos to the mastheads.
You know what? Nonsense, Syrius.
Noel, being one of the "mastheads" here at NB (if by masthead you mean regulators of the site) share with Syrius (and me/us :)) how many you've had to ban or suspend because of profanity or other behavior that was akin to so much of what you find on liberally ideological sites.
Syrius, this site is relatively civil and profanity-less becuase in the current climate this is not the side that's full of extreme, radical, intolerant, deeply-angry people. If you stick around here long enough and truly keep an open mind, I'm confident you'll start to recognize and accept this fact.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Oh, really...?
March 8, 2008 - 18:34 ET by SyriusMrShy,
Syrius, this site is relatively civil and profanity-less becuase in the
current climate this is not the side that's full of extreme, radical,
intolerant, deeply-angry people. If you stick around here long enough
and truly keep an open mind, I'm confident you'll start to recognize
and accept this fact.
Oh, really...? This site does have extreme, radical, intolerant, deeply angry people of the right wing. Please investigate the opinions of the radical social "conservatives" of this site. I'm only one of the few to mix it up on this site when I notice and point out an extreme view. It's so apparent when so many join a thread trying to trash an opposing view. Just look at this thread as an example. I haven't attacked anyone by way of name calling such as calling someone an "idiot". I've refrained and kept it civil. I do have an open mind and have recognized the radical right wing elements of this site. Also, I've laid out my position and views pretty clearly. So, nonsense to your rose colored outlook and defense of the radical right wingers of this site.
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Do tell Syrius. . .
March 8, 2008 - 18:37 ET by tracheostomy:sipping tea:
Please enlighten us to your definition of "extreme" and/or "radical" please.
-PJ
"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07
I haven't attacked anyone
March 8, 2008 - 18:49 ET by MrShyI haven't attacked anyone by way of name calling such as calling someone an "idiot".
So what am I missing here? Who in turn has called you an idiot or used any sort of derogatory name-calling in this thread toward you? You've been civil, we've been civil ( ? )
I'm only one of the few to mix it up on this site when I notice and point out an extreme view. It's so apparent when so many join a a thread
trying to trash an opposing view.
Yeah, of course you're a minority view-point here, which you know going in, so you will be debated... taken to task -- "trashed", as you seem compelled to call it. Again, where are we being uncivil?
And anyway, to get back on-point, the reason this site does not contain profanity is not for the reason you're stating. Noel and Co. are not beating down unmannered, uncivil, gutter-mouth conservatives left and right (no pun) because they do not exist NEARLY in the numbers you'll find in liberal circles.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Irrelevant question not
March 8, 2008 - 23:42 ET by GregESyrius,
To steer you back to the topic for a second, have you listened to the audio? And do you feel after listening that Olbermann was genuine in his reporting of what Glenn Beck said? (actually, it was what Glenn Beck said some people are saying to him)
Listen to Glenn's audio as compared to Olbermann's report of it, then come back and give your thoughts on how it Olbermann presented it and if it was true and genuine. I'll look forward to your response.
cont...
March 8, 2008 - 14:36 ET by LastlibertarianYou just stole my idea (great minds think alike?).Here's a continuation of what you were doing;
"Glen ... the roofies your dad gave her(his mother), ... your entire existence is a joke…"
" ...Beck’s wide stance..."
"...Gleck is a joke... bigoted, moronic joke...want to puke. On his shoes."
"...drunk from Mt. Vernon...talked out his ass..."
"...mentally unbalanced drunk...nutty Mormon..."
" ...too stupid to know he’s stupid.""If Glen Feck(less)..."
"...blithering idiot...Beck is nuts"
"...bigot Beck...""I view Beck...a turd with lips..."
" too stupid to come up with real humor"
"as dumb as he looks."
"Idiot."
"hemorrhoids have metastasized to his brain"
"dumber than a box of rocks" "...Beck-head.(Beck = Dick)..."
"listen to Beck . . . and Limpballs and Insanity"
"Becky’s got her frilly magic underwear all bunched up...""
Beck proves you can’t undo stupid"
"A new troll (chuckle) emerges? (snort! guffaw)"
"...chimp chimping in the background..."
"...hateful, preening, effeminate, vile, chucklehead..."
That's just from the first 40 posts. Do you realize just how twisted these people are? I’m convinced there is no amount of conversation that will even make them logical, insightful, citizens. I shudder to think how typical these attitudes are amongst my kid’s teachers.
More "thinking liberals"; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S0W3pVn_MY&eurl=http://www.detroitiscrap.com/forum/index.php?topic=171.0
Amazing
March 8, 2008 - 15:05 ET by allanfThe amazing thing is that you don't have to cherry pick the comments. I just took the first three.
Sad....
March 8, 2008 - 16:07 ET by NofHow truely sad, I hope I can counter the poison that is fed out in schools now days when my boy becomes aware and starts to question reality. As for Glenn B, I just recently started listening to him and so far I like what i'm hearing. His alcoholic view on things is clear...how wierd is that?
DEM/REP= No difference. Time to Start Wasting my vote on Libertarians.
Good find on that. It's so
March 8, 2008 - 13:20 ET by LighthouseJGood find on that. It's so painful to visit crazy lefty sites like allanf pointed out. They all have a sick superficiality to them, that is the ones that aren't completely devoid of a point or profanity.
"Boats are safe in the harbor, but that's not what they're made for." -- Maritime quote
Funny how ...
March 8, 2008 - 13:26 ET by drillanwr... the open minds of progressives always seem to be peppered with rusty steel-traps and razor-wire ...
When you men get home and face an anti-war protestor, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she’s dating a pussy… ~ Attributed to General Tommy Franks
Mr. Keith
March 8, 2008 - 13:26 ET by SeptemberOgreman's a sloppy, lazy, homely fussbudget. I"m glad Beck is dissecting The Lazy One's "journalism" blow by blow to highlight just how lazy Ogreman is. The man really does belong on TMZ or somesuch Hollywood trash show.
From where I sit, Old Keith wouldn't know a distinction if it came as a cereal box prize. Although I think he does know, but hey, if being obnoxious and reckless works then of course he'll keep going and going and going.
Good for Glenn.
Know your audience
March 8, 2008 - 13:27 ET by KC MulvilleThis speaks volumes about those media outlets and their audience.
Sure, it was a distortion, either deliberate or merely negligent. But think about this: would you tell a distortion to someone whom you knew would discover the truth? If you knew that the minute you said "Bush did so-and-so" your listeners would investigate whether or not Bush actually did it, wouldn't you be careful about what you allege? Yes, of course you'd be careful about what you say.
My guess is that Olbermann didn't bother to investigate the story himself. It simply fit into his assumptions, and his producers' assumptions, so he relayed it as fact. I could be wrong, though. Maybe Olbermann did replay the whole thing in proper context, but that would mean that his distorted snippet was deliberate, which is just as bad. In either case, my point remains: they distribute these outright lies to their audience, because they know that their audience will eat it up. Olbermann, MediaMatters, and ThinkProgress will simply give their audience what their audience wants -- insults against Bush.
Olbermann and his producers
March 8, 2008 - 13:41 ET by SMGalbraithOlbermann and his producers (who share some of the blame for this) have simply turned his pretend news show into a vehicle or platform for him to use to go after figures he doesn't like. And that category is seemingly anyone with a non-left point of view (when was the last liberal named WPIW? Or criticized from a non-leftist point of view?). He uses these liberal websites as sources for his stories attacking these figures; sources that he unquestionably accepts as fair and accurate.
All standards of journalism then go out the window. Accuracy, objectivity, balance, fairness, sourcing information. None of those tenets are used.
It's simply a liberal talk show with the cover of being a news program.
How he has gotten away with these egregious violations of professional journalism tells us a lot about the status of the modern press.
Sadly.
SMG....and Olbermann says
March 8, 2008 - 14:45 ET by motherbeltSMG....and Olbermann says what he does is "really journalism."
I'd love to know what journalism school he went to that teaches "Distortion 101" and "Creative Slander for Journalists."
mb,Keith is play pretending
March 8, 2008 - 14:52 ET by Chris Normanmb,
Keith is play pretending he's a real journalist. He even has his Fisher Price "My First Teleprompter". Please don't bust his bubble. It's important to let little children use their imaginations...
About Think Progress
March 8, 2008 - 13:33 ET by SeptemberThat first comment from their site, about the stick. Nothing like the stick remark to try and compensate for the lack of social skills not only in RL but in an online post.
I'll bet Glenn is shakin' in his boots.
"Progress"---hilarious.
I especially loved the last
March 8, 2008 - 13:44 ET by Conservative VoiceI especially loved the last bit, where he predicted it.
CV -
March 8, 2008 - 14:17 ET by drillanwrYeah, both Beck and Limbaugh are doing this now when they make [what might appear to be ... out of context ... controversial] remarks. The MSM dingbats walk into it every time ... I love it.
It's a good thing Olbermann and the rest of the idiot news media aren't fully engaged in the war because they'd be tripping wires and blowing themselves up left and left ...
When you men get home and face an anti-war protestor, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend because she knows she’s dating a pussy… ~ Attributed to General Tommy Franks
Liberal outcry is
March 8, 2008 - 23:41 ET by GregELiberal outcry is sooooooooooo easy to predict.
The "Some People Are Saying..." Thing
March 8, 2008 - 14:18 ET by Intellectual HonestyWhile there is no question that Media Matters, Think Progress and Keith Olbermann all played Becks comments as a serious inquiry (and I severly dislike all three entities as do most here) I can't let the use of anonymous emails be seen as a completely legitimate manner of inquiry.
We've all seen Katie Couric, Matt Lauer, Brian Williams...down the line use the preface, "...but some (people, expert, officials etc.) are saying..." to legitimize asking any question. I believe that these "some people say" questions simply allow the interviewer or reporter to insert their own question, often with biased intent.
Don't get me wrong. There is no doubt that the angle that was played was to ignore the obvious ridicule that Beck felt about the question and to ignore the the guest's reply. But leaving out the "...but some people say..." part is not too egregious - the analysis and portrayal of the question were.
Worst Person In The World
March 8, 2008 - 14:41 ET by ArchConservativeI name the Worst Person In The World Keith Olbermann's mom for having him in the first place. I don't believe in abortion but in his case I would have made an exception. If she had not been drunk and allowed her husband to impregnate her, we would be Keith free. Good going Jim Beam!
Now let's see them misrepresent what is truly sarcasm.
You support the troops by supporting the mission! If you don't support the mission, have the guts to say you don't support the troops.
AC... ....ROFL... Sure
March 8, 2008 - 14:48 ET by bigtimerAC...
....ROFL...
Sure it wasn't Jack Daniels?
Well thank goodness I
March 8, 2008 - 14:58 ET by ArchConservativeWell thank goodness I wasn't there to witness that, so I was guessing BT. (shuddering at the thought of that union: "the humanity, the humanity")
Considering Keefy's
March 8, 2008 - 21:29 ET by MikeBConsidering Keefy's personality traits, I think she was probably hammered on Wild Turkey.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
I catch Beck when I can
March 8, 2008 - 14:55 ET by bigtimerI catch Beck when I can during the week and I happened to catch this segment...
Beck was absolutely delicious...I could of kissed him!
Thank you Mr. Beck...for a lot of us out here.
Quick KO Question
March 8, 2008 - 14:59 ET by Captain KirockHas Olberman ever had a guest who disagrees with him?
I am not a regular viewer of his show but I do flip it on sometimes and I have NEVER seen anyone take a position contrary to his.
"I am not a regular viewer
March 8, 2008 - 15:03 ET by Chris Norman"I am not a regular viewer of his show but I do flip it on sometimes"
You flip him on? I flip him off. But, no, he never has guest who disagree with him. He claims he doesn't like arguments on his show. Riiiiight.
CK... I'm like you, I
March 8, 2008 - 15:03 ET by bigtimerCK...
I'm like you, I flip it back and forth too over the years...but your deduction that I have witnessed would be dead on...I have never seen one single guest he has on that disagrees with his distorted leftist views, to put that nicely...all have been his little leftist lemmings that I have seen on his show.
I have never seen one
March 8, 2008 - 21:35 ET by SMGalbraithI have never seen one single guest he has on that disagrees with his distorted leftist views, to put that nicely..
He did have Washington Post military reporter Tom Ricks on a couple of years ago when he (Olbermann) tried to make a comparison of Cheney with Spiro Agnew. Olbermann mentioned Cheney and then said something along the lines that "today is the anniversary of Agnew's resignation...et cetera".
Ricks got a cold look on his face and replied (paraphrasing) "There's no connection between Cheney's ethics and Agnew's at all and it's irresponsible to suggest it.."
Olbermann stammered a bit and then changed topics. Ricks was clearly not going to play his game.
Olbermoron
March 8, 2008 - 22:51 ET by Xango AnnieOlbermoron, is not going to have anyone on that even remotely disagrees with him...first of all, he is basically a coward, and second, he knows that he does not have the intellectual capacity to debate a different view..and he's a lazy SOB!!!
May I mention that I would not p*ss on him if he were on fire!
Xango Annie,
March 8, 2008 - 23:02 ET by R D HelmMay I mention that I would not p*ss on him if he were on fire!
LMAO-Hey, that's my line!
-But you may use it anytime you like. :-)
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
On fire...
March 9, 2008 - 02:05 ET by Xango AnnieOk RD we will share it!!!!...I first heard it from my dear Dad who had finally had it with my stepmother's neer do well son, who was sleeping in the dining room after 4 months(he was supposed to have been there only 3 days!!!!)
Xango Annie,
March 9, 2008 - 22:59 ET by R D HelmLOL-Yeah, we have a couple of those in my family, too.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Thomas Ricks speaks the truth...
March 9, 2008 - 16:23 ET by SyriusSMG,
Thomas Ricks has always played it straight and I'm glad to see you highlighting his candor. His book "Fiasco" was fantastic wouldn't you agree?
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Please, picking on his ties is not good...
March 8, 2008 - 21:01 ET by ExtirpaterHis aged mother does the best she can with color selection, she chooses the rest of his clothes too.
There are people, and they
March 9, 2008 - 13:36 ET by dahliatraversThere are people, and they say this about Bill Clinton who believe that he might even be the antichrist. Odds that Barack Obama is the antichrist? Why do you ask, Glenn?
It's amazing all the things you can buy on ebay. Surely in all those items someone has put up for sale a spare sense of humor.
Even if it were a little dented or warped, Olberman could clearly put it to good use.
Like it wasn't obvious already
March 10, 2008 - 12:12 ET by Dustin JolleyLike it wasn't obvious already that Olbermann gets his "talking points" from Media Matters, Think Progress, The Daily Kos, News Hounds, and other websites? His "worst person in the world" segment alone is an almost word for word repeatition of everything Media Matters posts on its website about Fox News Channel.
She probably found it, then
March 10, 2008 - 13:00 ET by steviep831She probably found it, then lost it, found it, then lost it....
Glenn Should Have Known....
March 11, 2008 - 11:48 ET by CooperHe should not take for granted that the sound of his schpeil will only fall on the ears of those who "get it".
Call it arrogance, lack of wisdom , what evr.
He hung himself out to dry with his own miscalculation in that regards.
He could have covered himself with the tag line:
"I think we all know that Keith Olberman is the REAL Anti-Christ."