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Presidential Debate ThreadTonight is the final presidential debate between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama. Discuss the main event here on this thread or take part in our live NB chat. Everything starts at 9:00 Eastern. | |
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Something FUNNY to start off...
October 15, 2008 - 19:52 ET by TheSterCNN's Jenie Moss found a web site...
That's "Most Unusual". It's an interactive visual page that sums up all the stereotypes propagated by the MSM.
I looked at it...It's funny in a stupid way. It's one page and you click on different objects...and "things" happen.
Check it out guys!! www.palinaspresident.com
It's amusing enough to waste 4 minutes of your life.
I'm taking Ideas for a Obamaaspresident web site!!!
A take off of www.palinaspresident.com .
I'll keep the Nuclear Explosion when you touch the RED PHONE...
Ayers under Desk...
Joe the Plumber in the Closet...
ACORN for sale sign on White House...
P-Diddy painting White House BLACK...
Come on people...I need Ideas!!! (and a way to make a site like this). Does NB have any programmers that can do this...It would make National News!!!
Ster.
I think that site is built
October 15, 2008 - 21:15 ET by dark_dsI think that site is built with flash .. not sure ...... I can do some things with flash but I am pretty crappy with it
Map with 57 states. Click
October 15, 2008 - 21:48 ET by JerryMap with 57 states.
Click on Dictionary on desk - Obama says "Words... just words.."
Che Guevera poster on wall.
The red phone should not detonate the bomb, but rather, you hear a voice message saying.... "Hi, you've reached the home of Barrack Obama. If you are my half brother, the answer is NO more money. I bet you already blew that dollar I sent you last year. If you are a third world dictator, please leave a list of your demands, and we will capitulate as soon as possible. I'm Barrack Obama and I approve of this message."
Click on Obama's head and he says... "Man, this sure is a lot harder than that community organizer gig."
Click on vending machine coin return - Obama says.... "I keep Hoping for Change, but it's always empty."
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
The most interesting part of the debate was....
October 15, 2008 - 22:07 ET by wdhorningIt was that Obama was wearing a red striped tie, which is the traditional color for Republican states, and McCain was wearing a blue striped tie, the traditional color for Democrat states. However, red is also the communist color, and media reports that Obama is clearly more than just a socialist, but probably a communist in his final goals for America. Obama wore a flag, but McCain must have had an ACORN worker steal his on the way to the stage from the green room.
On points, as in the last 3 debates, it was pretty much a tie. Both scored here and there, and of course the Dems will say Obama won all 3 debates and the Reps will say McCain won them all. But on Fox there was a "focus group" and one man said pershaps Obama is a little better at debates, but he was more interested in what the candidates actually stood for, and he though McCain was the better president in terms of solid footing.
My opinion is this, regardless of who is at fault for the current difficulties, experience and wisdom count far more than "change" just because it is a campaign slogan. They both pledged for changes, but only McCain knows how to get changes applied, since with respect to changes, they really are not that far apart on the issues, just some implimentation issues. In short, they agree on most changes, but McCain's experienc and wisdom pretty much insures more sensible change, not just changes of the sake of winning a presidential election.
help me NB Staff what's the SECRET CODE???????
October 15, 2008 - 19:52 ET by upcountrywaterCLIMATE CRISIS
IranianUranium
How many of you want to bet
October 15, 2008 - 19:55 ET by Jnoble...that lil' Georgie already has his "WINNER OF DEBATE: OBAMA" with the big lame checkmark all ready to go? Wouldn't it be funny if someone in the graphics department screws up and shows it too early like right in the middle of the debate?
»→ Never happen
October 15, 2008 - 20:01 ET by Cool ArrowCBS has this graphic already loaded.
Don't expect an MSNBC "Niger Ennis" moment.
Underdog & Pitbull 08
well
October 15, 2008 - 20:05 ET by Jnoble..I wasn't really being serious.
:-)
GOOD NEWS !!!!
October 15, 2008 - 20:01 ET by MrShyPeople, good article about the polls that we should all keep in mind, and something to kick around at the chat, concerning the "overall" polls and ones specifically for swing states:
http://news.yahoo.co...
Again, the overall poll most certainly goes up on the strength of the blue states just going much more blue vs. red stats going blue.
NOW PLAYING:
Governor Palin Get Your Gun
I'm not watching unless I
October 15, 2008 - 20:03 ET by Chris NormanI'm not watching unless I hear that they've come to blows...
McNotObama '08
Me neither, Chris. I
October 15, 2008 - 20:09 ET by motherbeltMe neither, Chris.
I don't know your reason, but I'm starting to wean myself from politics...
I weep for my country.
I'm trying not to let my
October 15, 2008 - 20:12 ET by Chris NormanI'm trying not to let my personal happiness depend on events and people I haven't much control over. I learned this lesson as a fan of the Sacramento Kings...
McNotObama '08
CN, I feel your pain there.
October 15, 2008 - 20:20 ET by balboaCN, I feel your pain there. I really liked the Kings back in the day, and as a Pacers' fan, can identify.
Why, Balboa, we do (or did)
October 15, 2008 - 20:22 ET by Chris NormanWhy, Balboa, we do (or did) have common ground. :)
McNotObama '08
I really thought Mike Bibby
October 15, 2008 - 20:26 ET by balboaI really thought Mike Bibby was going to be a superstar.
They never should have
October 15, 2008 - 20:39 ET by Chris NormanThey never should have tried to build the team so much around Webber - it destroyed the cohesiveness of the team.
McNotObama '08
I'm trying not to let my
October 15, 2008 - 21:20 ET by motherbeltI'm trying not to let my personal happiness depend on events and people I haven't much control over.
A good philosophy and one that I'm trying to adopt.
I got absolutely nothing out
October 15, 2008 - 20:12 ET by balboaI got absolutely nothing out of the last debate, so I'm watching the Dodgers and Phils.
Sorry guys I’m not trying
October 15, 2008 - 21:25 ET by USA4freedomSorry guys I’m not trying to barge into the conversation..
Wow I thought I was the only one. My wife yells in to me: Its on. I told her watch what she wants. She walked in the room and put her hand on my forehead, and said: are you OK??
Some times I have to step away, to keep my sanity.
What is that line Laura Ingram uses, conservative in the wilderness. That is how I feel as well.
With Bush and this bailout, then the banks, Mc Cain talking about, greed this and greed that, carbon credits, on and on. Then there is Obama a no good suck A$$ Marxist. God help our country. God help us, and our children with all of the entitlements that will never go away and grow ever bigger. I feel some how like we have cheated our kids and grand kids of free enterprise, where if you work hard you get ahead, not just move to a new tax rate, so that some SOB, that has not broke a sweat in his life can have it a little easer...
Then I have to worry that I live in the nice Historic area in New Bern, but only about 8 or 9 blocks from the worst crime area in town. I worry that win or loose things will happen. I don’t know..
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
I tool one of those stupid
October 15, 2008 - 20:08 ET by Chris NormanI took one of those stupid Soviet-looking Obama posters that say "Hope" under his picture and Photoshopped a "D" over the "H". I'm thinking about getting it blown up and put it out in my yard. If I do, how many years in the gulag will that earn me after the election?
McNotObama '08
A loonie lefty peace
October 15, 2008 - 21:05 ET by FishFace222A loonie lefty peace activist might punch you before you get to the gulag.
Do you have fire insurance?
October 15, 2008 - 23:22 ET by SRPwrdDo you have fire insurance?
not registered for chat
October 15, 2008 - 20:10 ET by botgrestricted access :(
oh well
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Same here
October 15, 2008 - 20:12 ET by Scuba DudeSame here
Wassup?
October 15, 2008 - 20:13 ET by GothampcI don't know what's up with that. Last time, the Newsbusters password was enough.
Same here
October 15, 2008 - 20:19 ET by Mearlineand frankly i don't care enough to give it another try.
Why, NB Staff?
October 15, 2008 - 20:23 ET by stratmanDear NB Staff:
The registration required to chat during the presidential debate is terrible. I am already a registrant on NB. I don't care to float my email addy to a chat room I will use rarely.
The NB forum software is slow, buggy, and antiquated. In a word, the software is LAME.
No wonder Conservatives take so many potshots. We can hardly interact within 21st Century technology interfaces.
I know you all work hard to give the forum up-to-date and decisive articles - you do an excellent job in this area. I know that money is always a factor - why spend it on adequate but lacking software. And, I appreciate you seem to have gotten rid of the awful forced refresh on the main window - thank you for that. But, please, ditch this crappy forum software and use something that runs faster, is more user oriented, and works with fewer bugs.
While I'm at it... get rid of the hokey chat too.
LOL Bruce
October 15, 2008 - 20:27 ET by shawn228Thx for that, I thought they locked me out on purpose.....actually that is still possible :-)
Real life video games are cool
what up Shawn?
October 15, 2008 - 20:29 ET by botgand what did ya do to the fonts?
i'm buggin out
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Fonts today,
October 15, 2008 - 20:49 ET by shawn228Tomorrow Universal Healthcare
Real life video games are cool
Shawn
October 15, 2008 - 20:50 ET by ThisnThatI thought they locked me out on purpose.....actually that is still possible :-)
LOL. You've definitely got a sense of humor.
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Lol TNT
October 15, 2008 - 20:54 ET by shawn228Have to have a sense of humor to listen to this crap speech
Real life video games are cool
Shawn
October 15, 2008 - 20:53 ET by well99The password is pcgamers rule.
password changed
October 15, 2008 - 20:59 ET by shawn228I heard it was pchavenobluray:-)
Real life video games are cool
Shawn
October 15, 2008 - 21:02 ET by well99Wow so that is why they wouldnt let me in.They must be racist..)PC discrimanation.
Why don't you just hang with your own kind well99?
October 15, 2008 - 21:09 ET by shawn228If you like to associate with those Spacecraft degenerates, maybe you should just hang with them.
Real life video games are cool
Shawn
October 15, 2008 - 21:15 ET by well99Excuse me.Guild Wars thank you very much.Spacecraft>Was that a game back in the 40s?You elderly gamers are such a hoot.
well
October 15, 2008 - 21:34 ET by shawn228Thats because all PC games are old and obsolete compared to a PS3 :-)
Real life video games are cool
Shawn
October 15, 2008 - 21:38 ET by well99My ex brother has a ps3.I had to disown him when I found out.It isnt that they are old and obsolete compared to PS3.They are vintage...)
Well we start off with bad
October 15, 2008 - 20:12 ET by bigtimerWell we start off with bad news on Wall Street...
As if we didn't know this wasn't going to happen...
Bob asks who is going to walk on water the best to fix this...
as if congress wasn't a major problem and McCain is bringing it UP...Fred/Fannie..well I'll be darned...
Of course now he is going into the aiding all the poor home owners blah blah blah...pour in 350 million...blah blah blah...renogitiate...blah blah blah...
Obama...same old same old..
Same old same old by both so far...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Unless McCain had a last
October 15, 2008 - 20:16 ET by Chris NormanUnless McCain had a last minute personality transplant, I don't expect any new ground to be gained. I find I wince and groan too much watching him.
McNotObama '08
Barrack....
October 15, 2008 - 20:13 ET by BadassBuckeyealready talking about giving more money away.....jhc.
holy sweet Jesus
October 15, 2008 - 20:15 ET by JnobleBLAH BLAH BLAH 95 PERCENT OF YOU WILL GET A TAX CUT BLAH BLAH BLAH MIDDLE CLASS BLAH BLAH
This guy is a skipping record
Why did...
October 15, 2008 - 20:14 ET by BadassBuckeyeMcCain stop...he should just go all the way and explain what the hell Freddie and Fannie did.
Now obama is speaking contrary to his website...funny.
McCain Blowing it... AGAIN!
October 15, 2008 - 20:21 ET by Sergeant ROCK95%???? Come on McCain! Don't l,et him getaway with that one!
PALIN/McCain 2008
sROCK, it's new and improved now 98%
October 16, 2008 - 00:03 ET by upcountrywaterCLIMATE CRISIS
IranianUranium
holy cow...
October 15, 2008 - 20:19 ET by BadassBuckeyeIs it me or is McCain getting frustrated...I think he might actually hit him...I hope he keeps it up....he got him on that one.
is it me
October 15, 2008 - 20:21 ET by Jnoble..or does Obama get all huffy if he's not allowed to blather on and actually answer the question asked?
What a baby.
mccain...
October 15, 2008 - 20:20 ET by aeroveloYou need to fight like a butterfly sting like a bee.
At this rate its more like fight like a sloth sting like the seven year itch.
He needs to get a sharp jab in and let obama stick his foot in his mouth, make another sharp quip, let obama stick his foot in his mouth and repeat till everyone is on the floor laughing.
the end, election won.
Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!
McCain Finally Listened to Someone
October 15, 2008 - 20:21 ET by GothampcHe's at last saying some things that everyone has been shouting at him for the last 2 months.
arrrrrrrggghhh
October 15, 2008 - 20:24 ET by JnoblePlease Jon, stop saying "we're sending XXXX to countrys that don't much like us"
I can literally talk along with him word for word sometimes
McCain
October 15, 2008 - 20:27 ET by GothampcYeah, he's spewing talking points. And he's not listening for chances.
He could have aced Obama just by saying: Joe the plumber is only able to buy his business because of the last 8 years of effective tax cut economy.
Albeit with
October 15, 2008 - 20:24 ET by Chris NormanAlbeit with "My friends..." in front of it? If so, I'll watch the replay later.
McNotObama '08
actually, no
October 15, 2008 - 20:26 ET by JnobleHe hasn't said it yet. I like him for the most part, but he relys too much on that cutesy phrase
Well, it dates him as an
October 15, 2008 - 20:28 ET by Chris NormanWell, it dates him as an old time politician.
McNotObama '08
McCain needs to get Insane
October 15, 2008 - 20:26 ET by Sergeant ROCKHe might even abandon the idea of out-spending Obama.
LOL! Good one Johnny.. 'should've ran 4 years ago'
PALIN/McCain 2008
SR...that was a good one
October 15, 2008 - 20:29 ET by bigtimerSR...that was a good one about you should of ran four years ago...
"I'm not President Bush, if you wanted to run against him you should of done it four years ago"...
Oops Obama slipped and gave crdit to Fox news....he hurried to add on to discredit them afterwards in not such a sly way.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
McC talking about pork
October 15, 2008 - 20:26 ET by bigtimerMcC talking about pork barrel spending..digging O about his...grins like a cheshire cat after done....and thank God doesn't say....my friends!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I am no Bush
October 15, 2008 - 20:26 ET by botgabout time
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
"Senator Obama, I'm not
October 15, 2008 - 20:28 ET by gregfahey"Senator Obama, I'm not George Bush. If you want to run against George Bush, you should have run against him 4 years ago."
YES!! Viva Viagra!
I can't stand
October 15, 2008 - 20:29 ET by Jnoblethat arrogant smile on Obama's face when Jon's talking.
Now we're on to not being
October 15, 2008 - 20:33 ET by bigtimerNow we're on to not being mean to each other in your negative ads'/campaigns Bob using all of McCains references naturally...
It is a blood sport..you's better draw some McCain.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
God damn it McCain..
October 15, 2008 - 20:30 ET by BadassBuckeyejust tear him apart...
Oh god here it comes...the race issue..
Obama The Teflon Candidate?
October 15, 2008 - 20:31 ET by Sergeant ROCKWith little or no record record to defend, he's a fantastic marketing ploy.
PALIN/McCain 2008
NB has been hacked
October 15, 2008 - 20:31 ET by bmoviesEverytime I open a page on NB, I get a little pop up that reads "garbage".
garbage
October 15, 2008 - 20:33 ET by botgi got some too
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Yup
October 15, 2008 - 20:34 ET by GothampcHappened twice to me.
time...
October 15, 2008 - 20:43 ET by bmoviesTime for the NB staff to do a little IP tracking and put a liberal in jail. :-)
Happened to me 3 times
October 15, 2008 - 20:38 ET by TheSterI ALERTED EVERYBODY ON CHAT!!
I WILL ASK THE CHAT MODERATORS TO LIFT ACCESS.
MAY BE WAY TO KEEP OUT TROLLS.
Stratman...
October 15, 2008 - 20:32 ET by TheStertry chat again!!
we all are on it!!!
Will do, Ster.
October 15, 2008 - 20:33 ET by stratmanWill do, Ster.
NB chat sucks. No way I'm
October 15, 2008 - 20:55 ET by ThisnThatNB chat sucks. No way I'm going to try twice after being restricted.
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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber
do it mccain...
October 15, 2008 - 20:32 ET by BadassBuckeyenows the time to bring up ayers....do it....
oh come on Jon
October 15, 2008 - 20:34 ET by Jnoblethe Ayers issue was just handed to you....TAKE IT ON!!!
Stratman...
October 15, 2008 - 20:32 ET by TheStertry chat again!!
we all are on it!!!
no chat
October 15, 2008 - 20:35 ET by botgstill restricted at that one
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Ster: It's a no
October 15, 2008 - 20:36 ET by stratmanSter:
It's a no go.
Same BS on the chat registration.
Sucks.
»→ Chat works
October 15, 2008 - 20:38 ET by Cool Arrowfollow the link
input email address
get password emailed to you
Underdog & Pitbull 08
I just want to know what
October 15, 2008 - 20:37 ET by bigtimerI just want to know what ads John is talking about that Obama is running against him regarding immigration are not true...
I would love to hear this myself.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Well this is not NB chat
October 15, 2008 - 20:37 ET by nwahsWell this is not NB chat. Its something else but its not NB chat.
What is happening to us?
NB is imploding like
October 15, 2008 - 20:42 ET by stratmanNB is imploding like McCain's campaign.
This is a sad time.
All the while I'm watching Obama with the biggest shit-eating grin I've seen.
Disgusting all around.
nwahs
October 15, 2008 - 20:44 ET by botgthe chat here bogs down the site too much so it's been outsourced
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Not the NB Chat that I know?
October 15, 2008 - 20:50 ET by Eileen RightNot the NB Chat that I know?
I'm tired
October 15, 2008 - 20:39 ET by Gothampcof Obama saying "What the American people want is..."
He doesn't represent anything I want.
Come on McCain, keep it up
October 15, 2008 - 20:39 ET by SpikerHe is doing a lot better here than in the last two. Loved the George Bush remark.
Oh and here we go blah blah blah healthcare....I don't know if I'll make it until 10:30
I'm going to start calling him
October 15, 2008 - 20:41 ET by JnobleUHbama
as in
"uhhh...uhh...umm.uhh...."
I really wish you wouldn't have blew this up this time
October 15, 2008 - 20:40 ET by nwahsIts a good debate, I wish you wouldn't have blew up chat.
YES!!!
October 15, 2008 - 20:40 ET by PrairieSkyJohn brought up those filthy tee shirts about Sarah!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
Here's Obama's prepare text on Ayers
October 15, 2008 - 20:43 ET by nwahsHere is Obama's prepared answer for Ayers. Now McCain has to reiterate WHY has it taken him so long to elaborate on his relationship with Ayers??
What an arrogant ass
October 15, 2008 - 20:45 ET by Jnoble"It happened when I was young. Let's just move on and forget about all that.."
yeeeaahhhh...OK......
Obama is still not
October 15, 2008 - 20:45 ET by stratmanObama is still not answering the Ayers question.
Barry has know Ayers for much longer than 10 years, and that association has tentacles to other subversives.
This new chat login scheme
October 15, 2008 - 20:43 ET by ReaganRuledThis new chat login scheme stinks! It keeps saying I am not registered. I even tried re-registering and it wouldn't let me do that. So I guess no chat tonight for the last debate .. Bummer.
Well the chat thing is broken
October 15, 2008 - 20:45 ET by nwahsIts broken.
Obama spinning his way out
October 15, 2008 - 20:45 ET by bigtimerObama spinning his way out of John Lewis comments, out of the palling around with terrorists...trying to say people are bad at McCains rally's not his...oh, MCain just brought up the Tee shirt ads and other things at his rallies...
ABOUT time....plus he called the people at his rallies are the most patriotic people....ect
I don't care about a washed up terrorist, but we need to more about your relationship with him, ACORN and his money paid to ACORN! Go John Go!
Obama now going on same old same old,the 8 yrs. old bs...now using the Annenberg school and the Reagan name...AGAIN!
Defending ACORN again...making Ill. register a motor voter law along with the Justice Dept...throwing names out like Buffett, Lugar,
McCain..Ayers and he on board of Woods foundation and money he threw at them..
All facts need to be out about Obama and his relationships ect...
Good job John...finally!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Obama is looking really whiney and weak tonight
October 15, 2008 - 20:49 ET by JnobleHe's a good speaker, I'll give him that, but he's being really defensive and weak tonight.
But don't worry fellow NB'ers, Lil' Georgie will still declare him the winner anyway. Just watch
Its good to see him take up for Republicans
October 15, 2008 - 20:50 ET by nwahsIts good to see him actually taking up for those who are taking up for him. To this point he seemed a bit disloyal.
Too little too late.
October 15, 2008 - 20:51 ET by motherbeltToo little too late.
Obama forgot to mention..
October 15, 2008 - 20:47 ET by Sergeant ROCK.. his buddy Frank Raines, who made $90 million over a period of 6 years at Freddie Mac. Way to go McCain.
PALIN/McCain 2008
This chat still works
October 15, 2008 - 20:51 ET by Cool ArrowEnter Here.
Underdog & Pitbull 08