Presidential Debate Thread


Tonight is the final presidential debate between Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama.

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Something FUNNY to start off...

CNN's Jenie Moss found a web site...

That's "Most Unusual".  It's an interactive visual page that sums up all the stereotypes propagated by the MSM. 

I looked at it...It's funny in a stupid way.  It's one page and you click on different objects...and "things" happen.

Check it out guys!! www.palinaspresident.com

It's amusing enough to waste 4 minutes of your life.

I'm taking Ideas for a Obamaaspresident web site!!!

A take off of www.palinaspresident.com .

I'll keep the Nuclear Explosion when you touch the RED PHONE...

Ayers under Desk...

Joe the Plumber in the Closet...

ACORN for sale sign on White House...

P-Diddy painting White House BLACK...

Come on people...I need Ideas!!! (and a way to make a site like this).  Does NB have any programmers that can do this...It would make National News!!!

Ster.

 

I think that site is built

I think that site is built with flash .. not sure ...... I can do some things with flash but I am pretty crappy with it

Map with 57 states. Click

Map with 57 states.

Click on Dictionary on desk - Obama says "Words... just words.."

Che Guevera poster on wall.

The red phone should not detonate the bomb, but rather, you hear a voice message saying.... "Hi, you've reached the home of Barrack Obama.  If you are my half brother, the answer is NO more money.  I bet you already blew that dollar I sent you last year.    If you are a third world dictator, please leave a list of your demands, and we will capitulate as soon as possible.  I'm Barrack Obama and I approve of this message."

Click on Obama's head and he says... "Man, this sure is a lot harder than that community organizer gig."

Click on vending machine coin return - Obama says....  "I keep Hoping for Change, but it's always empty."

 

 

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

The most interesting part of the debate was....

It was that Obama was wearing a red striped tie, which is the traditional color for Republican states, and McCain was wearing a blue striped tie, the traditional color for Democrat states. However, red is also the communist color, and media reports that Obama is clearly more than just a socialist, but probably a communist in his final goals for America. Obama wore a flag, but McCain must have had an ACORN worker steal his on the way to the stage from the green room.

On points, as in the last 3 debates, it was pretty much a tie. Both scored here and there, and of course the Dems will say Obama won all 3 debates and the Reps will say McCain won them all. But on Fox there was a "focus group" and one man said pershaps Obama is a little better at debates, but he was more interested in what the candidates actually stood for, and he though McCain was the better president in terms of solid footing.

My opinion is this, regardless of who is at fault for the current difficulties, experience and wisdom count far more than "change" just because it is a campaign slogan. They both pledged for changes, but only McCain knows how to get changes applied, since with respect to changes, they really are not that far apart on the issues, just some implimentation issues.  In short, they agree on most changes, but McCain's experienc and wisdom pretty much insures more sensible change, not just changes of the sake of winning a presidential election.

How many of you want to bet

...that lil' Georgie already has his "WINNER OF DEBATE: OBAMA" with the big lame checkmark all ready to go? Wouldn't it be funny if someone in the graphics department screws up and shows it too early like right in the middle of the debate?

»→ Never happen

CBS has this graphic already loaded.

Don't expect an MSNBC "Niger Ennis" moment.

Underdog & Pitbull 08

well

..I wasn't really being serious.

:-)

GOOD NEWS !!!!

People, good article about the polls that we should all keep in mind, and something to kick around at the chat, concerning the "overall" polls and ones specifically for swing states:

http://news.yahoo.co...

Again, the overall poll most certainly goes up on the strength of the blue states just going much more blue vs. red stats going blue.

 

NOW PLAYING:
Governor Palin Get Your Gun

 

I'm not watching unless I

I'm not watching unless I hear that they've come to blows... 

McNotObama '08

Me neither, Chris. I

Me neither, Chris.

I don't know your reason, but I'm starting to wean myself from politics...

I weep for my country.

I'm trying not to let my

I'm trying not to let my personal happiness depend on events and people I haven't much control over. I learned this lesson as a fan of the Sacramento Kings... 

McNotObama '08

CN, I feel your pain there.

CN, I feel your pain there. I really liked the Kings back in the day, and as a Pacers' fan, can identify.

Why, Balboa, we do (or did)

Why, Balboa, we do (or did) have common ground. :)

McNotObama '08

I really thought Mike Bibby

I really thought Mike Bibby was going to be a superstar.

They never should have

They never should have tried to build the team so much around Webber - it destroyed the cohesiveness of the team.  

McNotObama '08

I'm trying not to let my

I'm trying not to let my personal happiness depend on events and people I haven't much control over.

A good philosophy and one that I'm trying to adopt.

I got absolutely nothing out

I got absolutely nothing out of the last debate, so I'm watching the Dodgers and Phils.

Sorry guys I’m not trying

Sorry guys I’m not trying to barge into the conversation..

 

Wow I thought I was the only one. My wife yells in to me: Its on. I told her watch what she wants. She walked in the room and put her hand on my forehead, and said: are you OK??

 

Some times I have to step away, to keep my sanity.

What is that line Laura Ingram uses, conservative in the wilderness. That is how I feel as well.

 

With Bush and this bailout, then the banks, Mc Cain talking about, greed this and greed that, carbon credits, on and on. Then there is Obama a no good suck A$$ Marxist. God help our country. God help us, and our children with all of the entitlements that will never go away and grow ever bigger. I feel some how like we have cheated our kids and grand kids of free enterprise, where if you work hard you get ahead, not just move to a new tax rate, so that some SOB, that has not broke a sweat in his life can have it a little easer...

 

Then I have to worry that I live in the nice Historic area in New Bern, but only about 8 or 9 blocks from the worst crime area in town. I worry that win or loose things will happen. I don’t know..

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

I tool one of those stupid

I took one of those stupid Soviet-looking Obama posters that say "Hope" under his picture and Photoshopped a "D" over the "H". I'm thinking about getting it blown up and put it out in my yard. If I do, how many years in the gulag will that earn me after the election?

McNotObama '08

A loonie lefty peace

A loonie lefty peace activist might punch you before you get to the gulag.

Do you have fire insurance?

Do you have fire insurance?

not registered for chat

restricted access :(

oh well

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Same here

Same here

Wassup?

 I don't know what's up with that.  Last time, the Newsbusters password was enough.

Same here

and frankly i don't care enough to give it another try. 

Why, NB Staff?

Dear NB Staff:

The registration required to chat during the presidential debate is terrible.  I am already a registrant on NB.  I don't care to float my email addy to a chat room I will use rarely.

 The NB forum software is slow, buggy, and antiquated.  In a word, the software is LAME.

No wonder Conservatives take so many potshots.  We can hardly interact within 21st Century technology interfaces.

I know you all work hard to give the forum up-to-date and decisive articles - you do an excellent job in this area.  I know that money is always a factor - why spend it on adequate but lacking software.  And, I appreciate you seem to have gotten rid of the awful forced refresh on the main window - thank you for that.  But, please, ditch this crappy forum software and use something that runs faster, is more user oriented, and works with fewer bugs.

While I'm at it... get rid of the hokey chat too.

 

LOL Bruce

Thx for that, I thought they locked me out on purpose.....actually that is still possible :-)

Real life video games are cool

what up Shawn?

and what did ya do to the fonts?

i'm buggin out

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Fonts today,

Tomorrow Universal Healthcare

Real life video games are cool

Shawn

I thought they locked me out on purpose.....actually that is still possible :-)

LOL. You've definitely got a sense of humor.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

Lol TNT

 Have to have a sense of humor  to listen to this crap speech

Real life video games are cool

Shawn

The password is pcgamers rule.

password changed

I heard it was pchavenobluray:-)

Real life video games are cool

Shawn

Wow so that is why they wouldnt let me in.They must be racist..)PC discrimanation.

 

Why don't you just hang with your own kind well99?

If you like to associate with those Spacecraft degenerates, maybe you should just hang with them.

Real life video games are cool

Shawn

Excuse me.Guild Wars thank you very much.Spacecraft>Was that a game back in the 40s?You elderly gamers are such a hoot.

well

Thats because all PC games are old and obsolete compared to a PS3 :-)

Real life video games are cool

Shawn

My ex brother has a ps3.I had to disown him when I found out.It isnt that they are old and obsolete compared to PS3.They are vintage...)

Well we start off with bad

Well we start off with bad news on Wall Street...

As if we didn't know this wasn't going to happen...

Bob asks who is going to walk on water the best to fix this...

as if congress wasn't a major problem and McCain is bringing it UP...Fred/Fannie..well I'll be darned...

Of course now he is going into the aiding all the poor home owners blah blah blah...pour in 350 million...blah blah blah...renogitiate...blah blah blah...

Obama...same old same old..

Same old same old by both so far...

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Unless McCain had a last

Unless McCain had a last minute personality transplant, I don't expect any new ground to be gained. I find I wince and groan too much watching him.

McNotObama '08

Barrack....

already talking about giving more money away.....jhc.

holy sweet Jesus

BLAH BLAH BLAH 95 PERCENT OF YOU WILL GET A TAX CUT BLAH BLAH BLAH MIDDLE CLASS BLAH BLAH

 This guy is a skipping record

Why did...

McCain stop...he should just go all the way and explain what the hell Freddie and Fannie did.

 Now obama is speaking contrary to his website...funny.

McCain Blowing it... AGAIN!

95%???? Come on McCain! Don't l,et him getaway with that one!

PALIN/McCain 2008

holy cow...

Is it me or is McCain getting frustrated...I think he might actually hit him...I hope he keeps it up....he got him on that one.

is it me

..or does Obama get all huffy if he's not allowed to blather on  and actually answer the question asked?

What a baby.

mccain...

You need to fight like a butterfly sting like a bee.

At this rate its more like fight like a sloth sting like the seven year itch.

He needs to get a sharp jab in and let obama stick his foot in his mouth, make another sharp quip, let obama stick his foot in his mouth and repeat till everyone is on the floor laughing.

the end, election won.

Ask yourself: Do I want a good paying job, or do I want a government hand out. Its that simple!

McCain Finally Listened to Someone

He's at last saying some things that everyone has been shouting at him for the last 2 months. 

arrrrrrrggghhh

Please Jon, stop saying "we're sending XXXX to countrys that don't much like us"

 I can literally talk along with him word for word sometimes

McCain

 Yeah, he's spewing talking points.  And he's not listening for chances.  

He could have aced Obama just by saying:  Joe the plumber is only able to buy his business because of the last 8 years of effective tax cut economy.

Albeit with

Albeit with "My friends..." in front of it? If so, I'll watch the replay later. 

McNotObama '08

actually, no

He hasn't said it yet. I like him for the most part, but he relys too much on that cutesy phrase

Well, it dates him as an

Well, it dates him as an old time politician. 

McNotObama '08

McCain needs to get Insane

He might even abandon the idea of out-spending Obama.

LOL! Good one Johnny.. 'should've ran 4 years ago'

PALIN/McCain 2008

SR...that was a good one

SR...that was a good one about you should of ran four years ago...

"I'm not President Bush, if you wanted to run against him you should of done it four years ago"...

Oops Obama slipped and gave crdit to Fox news....he hurried to add on to discredit them afterwards in not such a sly way.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

McC talking about pork

McC talking about pork barrel spending..digging O about his...grins like a cheshire cat after done....and thank God doesn't say....my friends!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I am no Bush

about time

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

"Senator Obama, I'm not

"Senator Obama, I'm not George Bush. If you want to run against George Bush, you should have run against him 4 years ago."

 

YES!! Viva Viagra!

I can't stand

that arrogant smile on Obama's face when Jon's talking.

Now we're on to not being

Now we're on to not being mean to each other in your  negative ads'/campaigns Bob using all of McCains references naturally...

It is a blood sport..you's better draw some McCain.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

God damn it McCain..

just tear him apart...

 Oh god here it comes...the race issue..

Obama The Teflon Candidate?

With little or no record record to defend, he's a fantastic marketing ploy.

PALIN/McCain 2008

NB has been hacked

Everytime I open a page on NB, I get a little pop up that reads "garbage".

garbage

i got some too

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Yup

 Happened twice to me.

time...

Time for the NB staff to do a little IP tracking and put a liberal in jail. :-)

Happened to me 3 times

I ALERTED EVERYBODY ON CHAT!!

I WILL ASK THE CHAT MODERATORS TO LIFT ACCESS.

MAY BE WAY TO KEEP OUT TROLLS.

Stratman...

try chat again!!

we all are on it!!!

Will do, Ster.

Will do, Ster.

NB chat sucks. No way I'm

NB chat sucks. No way I'm going to try twice after being restricted.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it is in English, thank a Soldier. - My barber

do it mccain...

nows the time to bring up ayers....do it....

oh come on Jon

the Ayers issue was just handed to you....TAKE IT ON!!!

Stratman...

try chat again!!

we all are on it!!!

no chat

still restricted at that one

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Ster: It's a no

Ster:

It's a no go.

Same BS on the chat registration.

Sucks.

»→ Chat works

follow the link

input email address

get password emailed to you

Underdog & Pitbull 08

I just want to know what

I just want to know what ads John is talking about that Obama is running against him regarding immigration are not true...

I would love to hear this myself.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Well this is not NB chat

Well this is not NB chat. Its something else but its not NB chat.

What is happening to us? 

NB is imploding like

NB is imploding like McCain's campaign.

This is a sad time. 

All the while I'm watching Obama with the biggest shit-eating grin I've seen.

Disgusting all around.

nwahs

the chat here bogs down the site too much so it's been outsourced

   “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts

Not the NB Chat that I know?

Not the NB Chat that I know?

I'm tired

 of Obama saying "What the American people want is..."

He doesn't represent anything I want. 

Come on McCain, keep it up

He is doing a lot better here than in the last two. Loved the George Bush remark.

Oh and here we go blah blah blah healthcare....I don't know if I'll make it until 10:30

I'm going to start calling him

UHbama

 as in

"uhhh...uhh...umm.uhh...."

I really wish you wouldn't have blew this up this time

Its a good debate, I wish you wouldn't have blew up chat.

YES!!!

John brought up those filthy tee shirts about Sarah!! 

"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981

Here's Obama's prepare text on Ayers

Here is Obama's prepared answer for Ayers. Now McCain has to reiterate WHY has it taken him so long to elaborate on his relationship with Ayers??

What an arrogant ass

"It happened when I was young. Let's just move on and forget about all that.."

yeeeaahhhh...OK......

Obama is still not

Obama is still not answering the Ayers question.

Barry has know Ayers for much longer than 10 years, and that association has tentacles to other subversives.

 

This new chat login scheme

This new chat login scheme stinks!  It keeps saying I am not registered. I even tried re-registering and it wouldn't let me do that. So I guess no chat tonight for the last debate .. Bummer.

Well the chat thing is broken

Its broken.

Obama spinning his way out

Obama spinning his way out of John Lewis comments, out of the palling around with terrorists...trying to say people are bad at McCains rally's not his...oh, MCain just brought up the Tee shirt ads and other things at his rallies...

ABOUT time....plus he called the people at his rallies are the most patriotic people....ect

I don't care about a washed up terrorist, but we need to more about your relationship with him, ACORN and his money paid to ACORN! Go John Go!

Obama now going on same old same old,the 8 yrs. old bs...now using the Annenberg school and the Reagan name...AGAIN!

Defending ACORN again...making Ill. register a motor voter law along with the Justice Dept...throwing names out like Buffett, Lugar,

McCain..Ayers and he on board of Woods foundation and money he threw at them..

All facts need to be out about Obama and his relationships ect...

Good job John...finally!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Obama is looking really whiney and weak tonight

He's a good speaker, I'll give him that, but he's being really defensive and weak tonight.

But don't worry fellow NB'ers, Lil' Georgie will still declare him the winner anyway. Just watch

Its good to see him take up for Republicans

Its good to see him actually taking up for those who are taking up for him. To this point he seemed a bit disloyal.

Too little too late.

Too little too late.

Obama forgot to mention..

.. his buddy Frank Raines, who made $90 million over a period of 6 years at Freddie Mac. Way to go McCain.

PALIN/McCain 2008

This chat still works

Enter Here.

Underdog & Pitbull 08