For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Sarah!
How'd she do, folks? In the Xcel Energy Center, the evening was a HUGE success, as was her speech. I couldn't find any critics (photo courtesy Reuters).
What did you think? Did she accomplish what she needed to? How are you feeling about the race now?
Comments Policy
One word...
September 4, 2008 - 09:53 ET by Iowa BoyReaganesque.
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
Yes, We Will
September 4, 2008 - 10:46 ET by sawing battaTalk about "Yes, We Can"...she's not just a future promise of some nebulous "yes, we can" campaign line, she's "Yes, I am" "Yes, we will" and "Yes, we just did" all in one.
A great day for Women in America. A great day for conservatives. A terrible day for the media establishment's power structure and the engrained culture of liberalism.
Way to Go, Sarah.
sawing
September 4, 2008 - 10:52 ET by MrShy"A great day for conservatives. A terrible day for the media establishment's power structure and the engrained culture of liberalism."
You got it!
And as a woman myself, I could not be more proud.
Okay okay, I'm not a woman.
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
If you missed it last night...
September 4, 2008 - 10:47 ET by Amanda JusticeIf you missed it last night, or want to watch it again, MsUnderestimated has the whole speech in 3 separate downloadable .wmv files here.
thanks for the link
September 4, 2008 - 11:08 ET by SouthJersey1953Can't view it here at work, but sent the link home to get the files tonight. Speech was the best I have ever heard (well, since Reagan anyway)
McCain/PALIN '08
PALIN/Jindal '12
A Huge Thank You to Newsbusters and MRC
September 4, 2008 - 09:56 ET by YahooWatcherThe GOP convention is bringing out the worst of the left leaning media and NB/MRC is right there to call them on their bottom-feeding, gutter-scraping reporting.
She was phenomenal. She
September 4, 2008 - 09:57 ET by HermanoShe was phenomenal. She made me want to vote for McCain! Choosing her gave me a lot more confidence in McCain's ability to put good people in important positions in his administration.
Loved her many digs at Obama. I also noticed how she was "hands off" Biden. I thought this was a smart move since she showed how she was more qualified that Obama to take on the responsibility of being POTUS.
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She delivered
September 4, 2008 - 10:13 ET by docbthe female version of the speech with her homilies sprinkled in...
What about the issues? where is the beef? The jabs are good for a captive audience but let's see how she does without the adoring crowd...!!!
What little we know about her gives one pause...with 2 children with 'special needs' now --how does she make a decision to run for public office...would be interesting to have that thought pattern analyized!!!
She told us what she wanted
September 4, 2008 - 10:16 ET by HermanoShe told us what she wanted to do about taxes, energy, foreign relations and several other key areas - AND SHE GAVE DETAILS. Maybe you should pay attention to the speeches that people give instead of listening to others interpret it through their beer goggles.
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how does she make a
September 4, 2008 - 10:19 ET by Dan The Man 2how does she make a decision to run for public office...would be interesting to have that thought pattern analyized - And if we had all thought patterns analized then there would be no one left standing. What a maroon. Go back and read 1984 again.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Oh docb, please. "... let's
September 4, 2008 - 10:46 ET by MassConservOh docb, please.
"... let's see how she does without the adoring crowd...!!!"
As if Obama has ever been within 10 miles of anything but a fawning and fainting audience. Even when he's got his audience eating out of his hand, most of what he feeds them is filler (ah, uh, um) if it hasn't been scripted.
Yes, let's see how she does unscripted. I'm willing to bet it will be better than "the messiah."
the objective
September 4, 2008 - 10:51 ET by sawing battaFair concern...but this was an introduction...last night was not the night she should go into a deep, boring policy wonk speech. She has 60 days to talk policy, but only one night to rev up the crowd. (that said, i think you get a sense of her positions, no?)
On issues, she'll only get stronger.
Beyond expectations....
September 4, 2008 - 09:57 ET by political mavennow if she actually means what she says about serving the people, and doesn't get ruined by Washington.
And she has to talk to McCain about global warming and ANWR
The dems wet their pants last night....she made Obama look like the Jackass, empty suit he is
GOP now racist
September 4, 2008 - 10:00 ET by YahooWatcherRead all about it: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_diversity
GOP hypocrites: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_measure_of_a_nation_palin_family_politics
Kwame plea deal, going to slammer. See page B-18 for details.
racist? you idiot
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by political mavenAny black person is free to join the party, it's not like the GOP hires members of the party .
The blacks are too stuck on the nanny state plantation to break loose and start taking care of themselves, so they nurse from the Dems and the programs they push.
The few blacks who are willing to join the party of limited government (ok, so Bush grew the gov't and the GOP payed big time last election) take heat from "real" blacks as being oreos or Uncle Toms.
The Dems are racist for keeping the blacks hooked on the Gov't because the DEMS think the blacks can't make decisions for themselves.
political maven - I think yahoowatcher was pointing out the
September 4, 2008 - 10:22 ET by Dee Bunkirony and bias in the media. I could be wrong, but I don't think he agrees with it.
Bigot Bigot
September 4, 2008 - 10:25 ET by docbNo one keeps anyone from going to the party that reflects the values important to them...
It is just a problem for the old white voters and the religious right who have benefited from the tax breaks and big corp advantages, who hold fast to the repub party!
Since you brought it up, docb
September 4, 2008 - 10:40 ET by Mica the MagnificentSince you brought it up then you must also be saying that the old black voters who have benefited from the welfare system and other government handouts hold fast to the dem party?
You sound silly.
for the Leftist docb
September 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by UnsaneYeah, those tax breaks go to PRODUCERS who actually hire people and expand the economy...not losers like you who just ungratefully suck the tits thereof. Besides, the top 60% of wage earners pay 99.94% of taxes...maybe we should be demanding the poor pay THEIR "fair share", to use your language.
And of course you hate Big (fill in the blank) until it is time for you to steal from them. (All Leftists like you really know how to do is to steal, anyways.)
Shockingly, most of us here don't want to live our lives being Wards of the State like you do.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
I was being sarcastic
September 4, 2008 - 11:22 ET by YahooWatcherI'm sorry you took this post in a way I had not intended.
I understood what Yahoo was
September 4, 2008 - 16:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberI understood what Yahoo was saying. You guys need to lighten up!
Maybe that's because there
September 4, 2008 - 10:11 ET by motherbeltMaybe that's because there aren't many black Republicans???
And if they had "rounded up" a few more, I'm sure today the MSM would be accusing them of "showcasing" them.
The WaPo reported today...
September 4, 2008 - 11:07 ET by Ubercon...36 black delegates out of 2380 delegates on the convention floor. You're correct, there aren't many blacks in the party. Too bad, their loss...it is the lowest number in 40 years...do we really care?
Ubercon
I graded Sarah's speech A-
September 4, 2008 - 10:04 ET by Free StinkerI graded Sarah's speech A-
Then I saw she had teleprompter problems near the end so I riased her grade to a full A.
Platform poise. ;-)
Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !
I actually stayed up to
September 4, 2008 - 10:04 ET by MassConservI actually stayed up to watch her speech and can honestly say I was impressed.
I hope she can carry the confidence she displayed last night into the debates and other unscripted venues.
Also, I think it's really sad when people (libs) are so thin skinned they can't handle little barbs like the ones she tossed last night.
Right MC - there were no personal attacks
September 4, 2008 - 10:25 ET by Dee BunkNo one was accused of being a liar or hating black people - They didn't advocate arresting them as criminals or say that they didn't care about people. All the comments were based on lack of experience and judgment and saying different things to different groups.
Two standards
September 4, 2008 - 10:41 ET by well99It is ok for them to take potshots at McCain but no one is allowed to do the same to them.They can look down on a mayor from a small town but you cant look down on their community whatever.
Slam Dunk!
September 4, 2008 - 10:05 ET by ontherightBillary should be watching very closely and taking notes.
Rachel Maddow........More LEfty MSNBC BS
September 4, 2008 - 10:06 ET by JOSH R-NYRachel Maddow last night brought up that someone at Palins church spoke to the
congregation that Israel deserves terrorist attacks because they dont beleive in
Jesus.....Maddow states that Palin was present and cites Poltico.com as her
source......
This is such bullshit, where was Maddow and the rest of NBC when the Jeramiah
Wright crap came out. He wasnt talking bad about just Israel, he was talking
about us, the USA.
As I am a Jew, I take extreme offense to the Wright comments, and if these
rumours are true, then I am equally offended about what might have been said at
Palins church.
The difference is that I know Palin doesnt beleive this crap, and Im sure
that this hasnt been the basis of her church experience for the last 20 years.
Unlike Obama, who has been subjected to this hat speech for 20 years, and only
denounced it when he got busted on the national stage.
Another example of liberal bias..MSNBC PANEL= LIBERAL, LIBERAL, LIBERAL,
LIBERAL, Pat Buchanan....
I do hope this comes out
September 4, 2008 - 10:20 ET by dmntd1I do hope this comes out against Palin. I really hope the media attempts to flay her alive for sitting in a pew while a VISITING PREACHER gives a rather bigoted, short-sighted message.
If the MSM does this, Wright will be re-opened in such a spectacular fashion that Obama will have no idea what hit him. It wouldn't surprise me that the MSM has DNC orders not to follow through on Brickner's message that day.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Let's not forget..
September 4, 2008 - 10:54 ET by SDS....that Obama participated in the (million man march) to willingly listen to Farrakhan spew his anti-american and anti-jew hate. So it didn't start with Wright.
SDS:
September 4, 2008 - 19:46 ET by j. frank wilsonHave you read the newspaper column Sen. Obama wrote about that experience?
When I was a pup George Lincoln Rockwell came to speak in my hometown. If I had listened to him (it was past my bedtime) would that have made me an American Nazi sympathizer?
Possibly.
September 4, 2008 - 23:55 ET by HillbillyKingWho knows frank? If GLRs speech left a deep impression on you, perhaps it would have shaped your life in a manner that led you to be an American Nazi sympathizer. Life's funny about which events impact people in meaningful ways.
I understand what you are saying though, just participating in the march(speech) doesn't mean you endorse those views.
How about this, provide the link to Barry's article. Let us read it or is there sumthin in it to support SDS's claim?
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
HillbillyKing:
September 5, 2008 - 08:03 ET by j. frank wilsonI have not read Sen. Obama's column. What I know about it I read in the very interesting New Yorker article about his early experiences in Chicago politics - a very different take than you will get from the Republicans, by the way. I don't know if that little Hyde Park newspaper archives are on line.
A brief story about George Lincoln Rockwell's speech. He came out on stage and began spewing his hate and vitrol and the audience didn't say a word. No one yelled or protested or said anything. Silence. He, of course, was used to the audience going nuts. He went on and tried to stir things up and the folks just sat there. Finally he left in anger!
We've all read the sappy articles on Obama frank
September 5, 2008 - 08:30 ET by Dee Bunkthe difference is - we see them as sappy articles. He's full of these great ideas that he's never been able to implement even with his closest confidants and friends.
He talks about taking anger and vitriol out of the process but chooses a spiritual adviser who dams America - especially white people. He's buddy buddy with a former unrepentant terrorist. He's entrenched in the corrupt Chicago and IL politics with mentors like Emil Jones and Mayor Daly.
If Obama were a leader, would some of his ideas rub off on the people close to him? Wouldn't he cause Ayers to at least be repentant or Wright to start using a more positive message, or Emil Jones to not appoint his son to an elected position, or Mayor Daly to own up to his role in the police brutality and torture cover-up?
The answer is no because he's a phony. He's about money and power and if he can't change the opinions of his good friends, how is he going to change America?
Dee Bunk:
September 5, 2008 - 09:40 ET by j. frank wilsonPlease see the comments below directed to HillbillyKing. Sen. Obama has accomplished a great deal - implementing his ideas and change.
To suggest he's suppose to change the views of others is somewhat unrealistic. What has Sen. McCain done to change Pastor Hagee's crazed ideas?
Sen. Obama is not "entrenched" in Chicago politics. To state that is to demonstrate you simply don't know what you are talking about. Police brutality? See below - and read about Sen. Obama's work to stop that.
Sen. Obama has accomplished
September 5, 2008 - 10:01 ET by BDSen. Obama has accomplished a great deal - implementing his ideas and change.
What has Sen. McCain done to change Pastor Hagee's crazed ideas?
Sen. Obama is not "entrenched" in Chicago politics.
Frank - McCain was never freinds with Hagee
September 5, 2008 - 10:18 ET by Dee BunkObama was friends with Wright and Ayers. McCain has been a leader on many issues. He changed Bush's and other Republicans minds on the surge, he changed Democrats minds on their inappropriate filibuster of Federal judges. He's authored and passed lots of legislation.
Obama has done nothing to show that he can create change. Nothing. Please correct me with examples if I'm wrong. Obama has only catered to the radical left wing whether it's been filibustering judges or apposing the war or opposing born alive infant protection.
Obama speaks out about "torture" of radical Islamic terrorists but has no opinion on his buddy Mayor Daly being part of a large police brutality and torture cover-up in Chicago. Those people who were beaten and tortured were not killing thousands of people. They weren't treated to loud music, bright lights and water, but brutal brutal beatings and torture that killed people and included "electric shock to the ears and genitalia, mock executions, suffocation, and burning." according to Human Rights At Home. Clear evidence came to the forefront a couple years ago but the statute of limitations was up and people like Daley were safe from prosecution.
Obama is 100% partisan and will be lead by the nose by extreme left wing power brokers. He's shown no courage to go up against anyone in his party.
Dee Bunk:
September 5, 2008 - 10:36 ET by j. frank wilsonThere is nothing wrong with fillibustering votes on Federal judges. For much of our history approving judges required a unanimous vote - so all the Sheer Insannity crap about "in the history our nation" is just that - crap.
Sen. McCain himself has said there is not a substantive difference between stopping a judge with the "blue slip" process and stopping a judge with a fillibuster. Republicans had no problem whatsoever with blue slips - until they didn't like the results when the other party used them.
Without evidence you attempt to link Sen. Obama with Major Daley. Sen. Obama's success in Chicago was working with the Hyde Park branch of the Democratic Party - not with Major Daley's machine. See below for what Sen. Obama accomplished regarding brutal police interrogations.
As to how the US military and government "contractors" treated prisoners in the Middle East - sadly, torture and murder happened there as well.
Sen. Obama got ethics reform passed both in Illinois and in the US Senate. There was plenty of opposition from both parties - but he got it done.
If you don't suppport him then don't support him. Why do you also have to lie about his record?
Dee
September 5, 2008 - 09:55 ET by MrShyHe (O-Force One) lost my vote -- and I hope a large swath of them throughout the country, which looks to be the case (just look at that anti-Obama book flying off the shelves) -- being so closely tied to garbage like Rev. Wright. He has so MANY very questionable ties, but that one alone should ruin him.
The reason he still has a fighters chance? The black vote. Simple. (Well, that, and all the elitist guilt-ridden whites on the coasts who'd probably run to the voting booth for him if he was in the Nation of Islam.
Frank, that "candidate" is one, big propped-up joke. More and more are seeing this, thank G*d (um, ... damn America.)
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Shy - did you support him at one time?
September 5, 2008 - 10:23 ET by Dee BunkIt's great if you were able to see the light. I have to say that even though I've never supported him (because I've known his positions being in IL), I used to think he was a decent man. Now I think he's very slimy and opportunistic and was "made" by the Chicago mob politicians.
Dee
September 5, 2008 - 11:24 ET by MrShyHey, forgot (or didn't even know!) that you're an Illinois-ian :p
Well, when he first appeared in the primaries, I wasn't all that impressed with him then. For me, right away I sort of saw him as a blowing-with-the-wind type politician, but he did have charasma, no question.
My oldest brother, and even my ex sister-in-law (his ex) -- who have both been pretty independent or even leaning more to the right most of their lives -- both told me how enamored they were with him. So, he DOES have that effect on people.
But again, Rezko (and yeah, I believe you about the mob connection) and all others aside, just the Wright connection alone I find so insulting and completely irreprehensible.
So you have more in-depth dirt on him, being in IL?
* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change
Shy - I knew him better before
September 5, 2008 - 11:41 ET by Dee Bunkbut I think now everything is out. I know how corrupt Chicago and IL politics are though and Obama has never done anything to change it and has in fact rode to the top with the help of the most corrupt.
What do your older brother and ex sister in law think about McCain/Palin now?
Dee Bauk:
September 5, 2008 - 18:07 ET by j. frank wilsonActually Sen. Obama worked to change the corrupt political situation both in Illinois and in the US Senate. And he was elected while avoiding the Daley machine. If you facts to back up your wild (and potentially libelous - that's why NB has the disclaimer below every blog) claims, where are they?
Mobbed up? Do you have any proof, or do you habitually fling around reckless accusations?
Wilson...I don't know
September 5, 2008 - 18:16 ET by bigtimerWilson...
I don't know where Dee is...but what world do you live in for heavens sake...you have got to be kidding...I don't care how old you are even in this instance...this is just common knowledge.
where are your links to prove Obama has worked to fight the Daley machine/corruption..and if you are talking about that stupid meaningless ethic piss in the Senate....then you are stupider than I thought you were.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bigtimer:
September 6, 2008 - 09:21 ET by j. frank wilson"Common knowledge?" You mean the Big Lie repeated so many times the rubes buy it? You have no facts. Then you ask me to prove something?
Your tone and language prove you have no interest in an adult conversation.
Gov. Palin said "Hold me accountable" when the Alaska legislature looked into "Troopergate." Now she has filed an ethics complaint against herself to get the investigation moved to a body she appointed. That's change all right - change for the worse...
J Frank: Just some advice, I
September 6, 2008 - 09:35 ET by BDJ Frank:
Just some advice, I would not get into an firefight regarding ethics in which you champion a Chicago Politician who served on a board with William Ayers and launched his career in his sitting room.
I fear it would be, "Unfortunate" for you psychologically...
BD -- you're not that
September 6, 2008 - 09:40 ET by Jack BauerBD -- you're not that surprised this volleyball would take the side of a drunken ex-police officer who tasered his own 10 year old step-son, and subsquently threatened to murder Governor Palin and her dad?
Jack: I am always surprised
September 6, 2008 - 09:52 ET by BDJack:
I am always surprised at the level of "THerapy" it takes to be a liberal these days.
BD
Really..Say it aint so Obama
September 6, 2008 - 01:43 ET by well99http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article
If you had travelled
September 5, 2008 - 09:38 ET by BDIf you had travelled across the country to do so? Probably.
It's About Time
September 4, 2008 - 10:05 ET by bradbenj5952I see a change and my thought is it's about time. Instead of trying to pander to the lefty MSM the Republicans seem to be biting back in a very direct way. Sarah Palin has done this by letting the press know that she's not going to Washington seeking their approval. Rather, she's going there seeking America's approval. And I can certainly say this is one American who whole heartedly approves.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Great T-shirt
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by ricklailHere is a great t-shirt from Patriotcrew.com. It is a shame they don't make them big enough for me.
If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!
Feeling better about the
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by motherbeltFeeling better about the race. Palin might be just the "shot-in-the-arm" that McCain needs!
As usual, the MSM "misunderestimated." And this AM they are reeling, resorting to "yeah, she can deliver a speech that someone else wrote for her." (Sen. Obama, call your office!)
And for an added chuckle, Gloria Steinem is upset! How great is that! She gives Palin minimal kudos, because she is, after all, a woman. But she is the WRONG woman!
A couple of her highlights:
She was elected governor largely because the incumbent was unpopular,
Unlike Obama, who was elected to the IL legislature by suing his opponents off the ticket until he was unopposed.
and this is rich:
Perhaps McCain has opposed affirmative action for so long that he
doesn't know it's about inviting more people to meet standards, not
lowering them. [HAH!] (emphasis added)
But the money quote, IMO:
Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton.
If I were Sarah Palin, I would consider that high praise!
We are going to need plastic sheeting and garbage bags, like those in the front rows at a Gallagher performance, to shield us when all those MSM heads explode!
Palin v Clinton
September 4, 2008 - 11:16 ET by SDSGov Palin is everything Sen Clinton is and more...
she's pro-life.
I loved her speech. I loved
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by dmntd1I loved her speech. I loved how she made it abundantly clear, without mentioning it, that she wasn't running against Biden, but against Obama. The slams she made repeatedly against Obama, and the DNC in general, had me roaring in laughter.
Laura Lingle, gov of Hawaii, gets props for, as far as I can tell, starting the "zero" movement. I'd love to see a bumper sticker of "O = 0" sometime.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Linda Lingle, A Republican swamped by demorats!!
September 4, 2008 - 13:00 ET by upcountrywaterI voted for her several times, and she WON! She has fought the fight with the tax and spend gang for years. I was glad to hear her speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5LzIdYv1zY
17 minutes a CSPAN site on YT.
0=o lmao
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
GOLD!
September 4, 2008 - 10:10 ET by EverettPShe showed her strengths very well last night. If fact, I was kind of hoping SHE was running for POTUS. I finally feel like we finally have someone who has a damn backbone!
To the rest of the republicans... Learn from her example.
speaking of gold...
September 4, 2008 - 10:18 ET by sarcasmoThe MSM seems to be finally noticing a certain something they've been trying, desperately, to ignore for a while...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
sarc
September 4, 2008 - 11:18 ET by Noel Sheppardsarc,
From everybody at NewsBusters, including the membership and readers, would you please stop taking every opportunity to talk your book. We all know where you stand on gold, the dollar, and the deficit. Pushing your investment of choice here has now officially become spamming.
Please stop it now! ns
On an open thread?
September 4, 2008 - 11:50 ET by sarcasmoWhen the MSM's noticing? I think this is personal with you, and I'd prefer to get a ruling from Sheffield since Ted Butler has a history of out-predicting you, and I think you resent it. Also, it's a lie to say this is about me, as you're trying to do, and lying is spamming, so stop.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
sarc
September 4, 2008 - 13:00 ET by Noel Sheppardsarc,
I'm with Matt and Ken. We discussed this before this was posted. This isn't personal. We want you to stop spamming your investments here. Period. We should have stopped this years ago. Final warning. ns
Once again, you're lying about my motivations in exposing this
September 4, 2008 - 13:14 ET by sarcasmoI must ask you to quit lying about me. I do not particularly care what you think about Butler because you know what I said about his predictive ability vs yours was proven true. If I'm not allowed to post about media bias in open threads here, I'm gone. But you'll still be a liar as long as you continually & knowingly lie about WHY I'm posting. Since you've failed to refute, why not just be silent, instead of trying to make this personal and about me? I think it shows a distinct lack of character.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
sarc
September 4, 2008 - 13:18 ET by Noel Sheppardsarc,
I'm sitting here with Matt and Ken. This is a unanimous decision, and by no means personal. If you can't live by this decision, that is your choice. ns
But are you telling the truth about that??
September 4, 2008 - 13:20 ET by sarcasmoYou're not about me & about why I post about this, even though you know the truth well from our last spat, so how should I know??
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Come on sarc...you've been
September 4, 2008 - 13:27 ET by bigtimerCome on sarc...you've been here as long as me...don't be so hard-headed.
...although we may not agree all the time I'd hate to see you go because of stubborness.
Just my thoughts...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Sorry, but I'm outta here
September 5, 2008 - 03:54 ET by sarcasmoIf my sincerely held beliefs can be misrepresented as "spam," it's not ok with me. Lies can't be allowed to stand, whether from the right or the left. I'll be elsewhere on the 'net, and I'll try to keep myself as easy to find as possible, but I'm not blogging here unless I can actually express my opinions without being lied-about in the process. Hope everyone I've met here has a good life. I think I'll leave you all with Penn Jillette's words on the Presidency.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
It sure does suck when
September 5, 2008 - 06:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberIt sure does suck when people spread outright lies about you, doesn't it?
Does your cape have a big "H" on it, for Hypocrite?
Light the torch and the moth will fly right back...
September 5, 2008 - 12:00 ET by UberconRog,
Sarc loves this site. He'll be back soon enough. I love the option he has...he can decide to jump off the burning building to his demise or stay and enjoy the warmth of roasting to death. I think he'll jump and find out his cape doesn't work as parachute!
Good stuff!
Ubercon
Uber... Nice that someone
September 5, 2008 - 20:06 ET by bigtimerUber...
Nice that someone that has only been here five weeks seems to know so much about sarc and seems to be enjoying this.
I, for one, don't.
I understand Rog...but not you.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I've been reading past threads...
September 5, 2008 - 23:22 ET by Ubercon...I'm trying to understand the hierarchy and those posters like yourself who live on this site and live for this site. If you use the track function you can see who lives here. I find it ironic to see the posters who live here call those who disagree with them a "troll". Metaphorically speaking, I always thought the "troll under the bridge" was the unmoving force dominating the negative aspects of thought on a website. So, yeah, I'm just trying to get a better idea of who's who. From what I can see, you are a force on this site and hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. Keep up the good work.Übercon
um....
September 5, 2008 - 23:28 ET by candanceoops...wrong thread
nm
Uber... I see you managed
September 5, 2008 - 23:33 ET by bigtimerUber...
I see you managed to miss my whole point here...I'm not surprised either.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
yeah BT
September 5, 2008 - 23:42 ET by candanceI totally got the point you were making.
Too bad Sarc chose to go down that path. He was actually a pretty cool guy when he applied himself.
But alas, it takes months' worth of reading to really understand why Roger is dancing on Sarc's NB grave. Maybe we'll get lucky and be graced with another "DasSarkBot" or "Pauline Douchebag" zinger for good times. : - |
The Party's On: Sarcasmo's Gone!
September 6, 2008 - 19:09 ET by UnsaneCount me as another that is ecstatic that the arrogant blowhard Supreme Expert on Everything that was Sarcasmo is gone. I am right there with Roger.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Alright the racist drug addict Sarcasmo is gone
September 11, 2008 - 00:13 ET by Daniel BakerThe Extremist liberal-tarians can go live on his crackpot lewrockwell site
Protect Traditional Marriage California Get Out the Vote
Traditional Marriage is not "Divisive" President Obama
Racist...drug addict? Oh
September 11, 2008 - 00:20 ET by bigtimerRacist...drug addict?
Oh please Daniel...
Save it.
I know some are happy about sarc being gone...I'm not one that takes glee or is glad he left.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Agreed, BT
September 11, 2008 - 00:25 ET by BlondeSarcasmo was a burr under alot of people's saddles here, but he added quite a bit to the boards.
I hope he decides to check back in one of these days.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
sarc's departure
September 11, 2008 - 00:31 ET by Cool ArrowI'm hoping he comes back also.
He should be here right now with an "I told you so" on Fannie and Freddie. If we haven't taken one giant step into socialism, the definition has changed
Sarc
September 12, 2008 - 06:08 ET by UnsaneHe could add a lot to the boards, but he opted to spend much of his time being a boor and an arrogant p***k.
Nothing was ever Sarcasmo's fault (including his NB demise); Sarcasmo was the world's preeminent genius and if you didn't recognize that you were an idiot; Sarcasmo was never, ever wrong under any circumstances. Nor did he have much in the way of original thinking, just what other people said (by way of links).
I wanted to like him, but he rendered that impossible.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Some people may be idiots
September 12, 2008 - 16:55 ET by bigtimerSome people may be idiots in others eyes Uns...other people just ignore some of the posts on the threads that are posted by some posters they don't care for.
sarc was/is a friend...even though we didn't agree all the time...I just wished he wasn't so stubborn at times...but heck, we're all different.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Daniel, most libertarians are more conservative....
September 11, 2008 - 00:49 ET by R D Helm...than you average republican nowadays.
I left the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party back in 1996 for that very reason.
FYI, the government (run by man, incidentally) does no own you. You do.
What can be more conservative than that?
BTW, where in the Constitution of the United States does the government have the authority to prohibit anything I do as long as what I do does not threaten the life, liberty, or property of another citizen?
And just where, exactly, do you get off calling sarc a racist?
-Dave.
Racist? Maybe not, BUT...
September 12, 2008 - 06:15 ET by UnsaneNow, note I never have called Sarcasmo racist (and yes I know the question was not directed at me), but his obsequious love of Ron Paul (who himself despises Israel passionately), as well as his massive anti-Israel rant of some time ago, did give me pause to wonder sometimes.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Noel,
September 5, 2008 - 19:51 ET by