Open Thread

By NB Staff (Bio | Archive)
August 30, 2008 - 09:53 ET

For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: as yesterday's Sarah Palin Open Thread received from what I can tell the greatest number of reads and comments of any OT since we started doing OTs, I wanted to keep this same topic today.

As you've now had 24 hours to think about this pick, as well as hear and read other opinions, how are you feeling about this choice as we head into the convention on Monday?

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A war hero and a smokin' hot

August 30, 2008 - 09:56 ET by Uphill

A war hero and a smokin' hot babe.  I'm in.

Compare Resumes and Pretend this is not a Disaster

August 30, 2008 - 10:11 ET by PopularTech

Next in line to be VP? The most qualified choice?

Sarah Palin

Age: 44

Family:
- Husband: Todd
- 5 Children: Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, Trig

Religion:
- Pentecostal

Education:
- B.S. Journalism, University of Idaho, 1987

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member of Wasilla City Council, Alaska (pop: 6,715)
- Former Mayor of Wasilla City, Alaska (pop: 6,715) (Votes: 909)
- Candidate, Lieutenant Governor, Alaska, 2002
- Governor of Alaska, 2006-present (pop: 670,053)
Total Career Political Votes: 188,125

Professional Experience:
- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989

Joe Biden:

Age: 65

Family:
- Wife: Jill
- 3 Children: Beau, Hunter, Ashley

Religion:
- Roman Catholic

Education:
- B.A. History/Political Science, University of Delaware, 1965
- J.D. Syracuse University College of Law, 1968

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member of New Castle County Council, Delaware, 1970-1972 (pop: 500,265)
- United States Senator of Delaware, 1973-present (pop: 853,476)
- Candidate, United States President, 2008
Total Career Political Votes: 929,170

Professional Experience:
- Attorney, Private Practice, Wilmington, Delaware, 1968-1972
- Adjunct Professor, Widener University School of Law, 1991-present

Mitt Romney:

Age: 60

Family:
- Wife: Ann
- 5 Children: Tagg, Matt, Josh, Ben, Craig

Religion:
- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Education:
- B.A. Brigham Young University, 1971
- J.D. Harvard University, 1975
- M.B.A. Harvard University, 1975

Political Experience:
- Candidate, United States Senate, Massachusetts, 1994
- Governor of Massachusetts, 2003-2007 (pop: 6,437,193)
- Candidate, United States President, 2008
Total Career Political Votes: 6,839,107

Professional Experience:
- Vice President, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1978-1984
- CEO, Bain Capital, Incorporated, 1984-1998
- CEO, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1991-1993
- President, Salt Lake Winter Olympics Organizing Committee, 1999-2002

pt ,make correction to:

August 30, 2008 - 11:00 ET by larry on LI

biden education

redo law school 1967 received 'F' for plagiarzing someone else material. a bad habit that he repeated in 1988 presidental race.

Ok I added this...

August 30, 2008 - 11:34 ET by PopularTech

- McCain graduated 894th out of 899 in his class at the United States Naval Academy

Thanks for the heads up I missed that one.

Pathetic

August 30, 2008 - 21:17 ET by Unsane

Funny thing is that ALL 899 of those graduates were STILL called "Sir" or "Ensign" when they graduated. 

You are simply going to have to try harder to hammer McCain.  And I'm not his biggest fan, either.  Just a Reservist who knows what a b!#$h it is to even qualify for the Naval Academy, much less graduate from there even at the bottom of your class. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Easy.

August 30, 2008 - 11:09 ET by Roger the Shrubber

Palin - Vandal.

Biden - Blue Hen.

 

Poor PopTech is still pissing his pants. As a Libertarian, shouldn't you be on the road with the other Paulbots to Tardstock '08?

 

Paul Bots?

August 30, 2008 - 11:35 ET by PopularTech

Oh you have me confused with someone else, everyone is doing that the last few days.

I rarely get my douchebags

August 30, 2008 - 12:10 ET by Roger the Shrubber

I rarely get my douchebags confused. You are not a Paulbot? You are the the average Ben-Franklin-dressing, moms'-basement-living Libertarian man-boobed loser? My apologies.

For somebody who has been tossing around insults these past two days, you sure do handle criticism like a little girl.

 

 

Wow, talk about reflexive whines

August 30, 2008 - 12:34 ET by sarcasmo

The only possible relevance is that Palin's not obsessively anti-Ron Paul like some of the more obvious big government RINOs, but I guess that was enough for a whine...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Must have hit close to

August 30, 2008 - 14:08 ET by Roger the Shrubber

Must have hit close to home, since you had to chime in. Did I ruin your surprise? Were you going to dress up as John Adams or Ben Franklin? The Statue of Liberty, perhaps?

Great work linking to MTV News, btw.

I know, I know. You will now do the same ole Sarky dance, droning on and on about how you have the right to be a douche and post what you want because you are such a man, and nobody can stop you, etc, etc, etc... Go ahead, have your fun, thump that chest, blah, blah, blah. I am going to have a nice day at a picnic, while you sit in mommy's basement getting that bald-headed wig ready for your big date with the other Paultards.

Have fun! Don't forget to wear your Pautard Chostkie Flair!

 

Uh, Whiner...

August 30, 2008 - 14:12 ET by sarcasmo

I'm in Florida, where I'm staying. Your fantasies suggest YOU are the one spending too much time in basements. Get a life, quit whining about Republicans who want smaller government, and have some fun. I stand by all my words (and PopTech already got today's "I post what/where/how I want" schooling, so I don't need to school you on it again).
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

The guy in the cubicle next door gets mad at me too.

August 30, 2008 - 14:26 ET by JWF

    I would joke that Ron Paul will get elected King of the Internet because of all the spamming of the internet polls.

   The guy in the cubicle next door wrote scripts. I would joke that he should get a job writing spam for Ron Paul.

   The guy in the cubicle next door would stop talking to me for days at a time.

  The guy in the cublicle next door also does not know what grapeshot is/was. He made me laugh and all would be forgiven.

Non Sequitur, but

August 30, 2008 - 14:28 ET by sarcasmo

Whatever mushroom it is that's on your pizza, you should probably consider selling it! And again, please get used to the fact that the Whiner is as usual 100% clueless about me...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Yawn.

August 30, 2008 - 21:54 ET by Roger the Shrubber

Too much of a pud to make it to Tardfest?

Some zealot you are.

All that money you gave to Ron, too. I thought he was your friend.

What a poser.

 

Yeah Roger

August 30, 2008 - 22:06 ET by Cool Arrow

Even Neil Diamond gives refunds

Torches & Pitchforks

Your point??

August 31, 2008 - 04:28 ET by sarcasmo

I didn't detect one...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Come on sarc

August 31, 2008 - 04:34 ET by Cool Arrow

No room for levity?

Torches & Pitchforks

Not when the Whiner's trolling

August 31, 2008 - 04:39 ET by sarcasmo

You and others need to NOT encourage him, it just leads to more sarcasmo-mockery. And my "Ted Stevens dissin' really gets under big government Republicans' skin" theory already has enough support recently without either you OR the Whiner. Look, if I really wanted to piss-off Republicans, I'd start linking to well done lefty cartoons like this one.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Yawn

August 31, 2008 - 04:27 ET by sarcasmo

Too much of a Whiner to think of anything new? Get out of that basement more, and whine about people who want smaller government less. Try it, you might like it.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Actually I am confused

August 30, 2008 - 12:45 ET by PopularTech

My political affiliations change everytime someone else replies. These knee-jerk replies are entertaining though, thanks.

You are obviously confused.

August 30, 2008 - 14:10 ET by Roger the Shrubber

You are obviously confused. At least you have said something everybody can agree on.

Stay on your meds, bro.

I am as confused as Palin

August 30, 2008 - 14:12 ET by PopularTech

I am as confused as Palin

PT, please do us NBers a favor-stick to what you are best at...

August 30, 2008 - 23:48 ET by R D Helm

...and that is skewering the AGW Nazis.

As for anything else here that involves the idea of individual freedom, by all means, stay away, because you clearly do not "get it."

 

-Dave.

I'd put Gov. Palin's resume

August 30, 2008 - 13:37 ET by Ten7s

I'd put Gov. Palin's resume up against Obama's resume anyplace, anywhere.  The only executive experience that Obama has is with the Chicago Annenburg Challenge, where he worked quite closely with a homegrown terrorist named Bill Ayers.  And to top it off, Obama and Ayers' endeavour was a dismal failure.

Barack Obama's Resume...

August 30, 2008 - 13:45 ET by PopularTech

Barack Obama:

Age: 47

Family:
- Wife: Michelle
- 2 Children: Malia, Sasha.

Religion:
- United Church of Christ

Education:
- B.A. Political Science/International Relations, Columbia University, 1983
- J.D. Harvard Law School, 1991

Political Experience:
- State Senator, Illinois, 1996-2004
- U.S. Senator, Illinois, 2005-present (pop: 12,831,970)

Professional Experience:
- Lecturer, Constitutional Law, University of Chicago, 1992 to 1996
- Senior Lecturer, Constitutional Law, University of Chicago, 1996-2004
- Attorney, Miner Barnhill & Galland, 1993-2004

Thanks, Poppy

August 30, 2008 - 14:16 ET by Mica the Magnificent

If we need someone to lecture the terrorists on our constitutional law, we'll be sure to give ol' Barry a call.

Definitely because it will not be the Journalist

August 30, 2008 - 14:19 ET by PopularTech

"community organizer"

August 30, 2008 - 14:19 ET by Ten7s

You apparently don't know the difference between executive experience and academic/legislative experience.  Oh, and let's not forget his "community organizer" experience w/ the likes of Reverend Wright and his experience teaching the neo-Marxists techniques of Saul Alinsky.

Harvard Law? U.S. Senator? I think you are confused.

August 30, 2008 - 14:21 ET by PopularTech

Shocked

August 30, 2008 - 19:55 ET by Unsane

Color me SHOCKED that you like Palin. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Good post PT.

August 30, 2008 - 20:07 ET by GregE

Good post PT.

Hey, does anybody know what

August 30, 2008 - 09:58 ET by Newsbusterbrown

Hey, does anybody know what PopularTech thinks about the pick? ;-) 

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

And the bait is in the water...

August 30, 2008 - 10:02 ET by Uphill

Didn't he tell us yesterday (over and over)?

Yes...

August 30, 2008 - 10:02 ET by Foolican

...with all of the eloquence of an overloaded dump truck.

LOL “There are no easy

August 30, 2008 - 10:04 ET by Newsbusterbrown

LOL

“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)

"Get over it..."

August 30, 2008 - 10:58 ET by Andante

...was PT's repeated talking point when responding to suggestions that his Libertarian vote will be wasted and help put Obama in the White House.

I'm still trying to "get over it"...must find duct tape soon. ;-)

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama

Get over it

August 30, 2008 - 11:37 ET by PopularTech

Maybe next time I will not be the only one who does his homework.

(sigh) Pop...

August 30, 2008 - 19:58 ET by Unsane

Have you seen THIS:

Palin: went to the AOR as CinC of ANG troops under her to see how they were doing in the AOR and handling things.

Obama: dragged kicking and screaming into the AOR.  And ONLY when it became politically expedient to do so.

One's a governor.  One is a United States Senator.  What is wrong with that picture (and right)?

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

A question....

August 30, 2008 - 12:34 ET by cest moi

Did Poppy ever get his meds thing sorted out?

Should I have smoked Pot like Palin?

August 30, 2008 - 12:47 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot

Big deal (again)

August 30, 2008 - 12:50 ET by sarcasmo

Who owns your body, you or the state? Get over the emotional hysteria. Nobody cares.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Why you'd LOVE AK

August 30, 2008 - 20:01 ET by Unsane

You ought to be in AK, not FL.  Pot is legal there up to 1 oz.  Of course, the representative of the local Libertarian party in Anchorage, I trust, is still roaming town trying to get people to sign a petition to get the Libertarians put on the AK ballot.  He'd probably have more luck if he clearly wasn't a total burnout.  Or if the Libertarians there would at least make a small effort to be presentable to the public. (Don't cry to me about how hard it is either: there is an AK Independence Party on the ballot there.) 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Yawn...

August 31, 2008 - 04:30 ET by sarcasmo

Did you copy and paste that, or is it a new comment that just LOOKS exactly like all your previous dimwittery??
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Attribution

August 31, 2008 - 06:17 ET by Unsane

I attribute that to two things you lack:

1) A powerful memory.  I didn't cut and paste ANY of that, I remember such data.

2) I lived in Anchorage and was accosted by said individual in multiple venues in town and thus know of what I speak.  Have you?  Can you disprove ANY of what I said, oh holy SUPREME EXPERT???

Had I been an AK voter - I have always been registered in TX - I probably would have signed his petition.  But this was before I met a Libertarian online named Sarcasmo.  Why would I support a Libertarian cause, even those I actually agree with, with people like you infesting the party?

I know that this is supposed to be a one-party state and all where the Libertarians rule the land in perpetuity from coast to coast and all, but unfortunately there are tons of Libertarians like him (and you) who leave extremely negative impressions of the party, and apparently none of you know or care (and I am inclined to believe the latter).

Please continue to vomit your vitriol and bile onto the board.

 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

laughable

August 31, 2008 - 06:21 ET by sarcasmo

I stopped at "a powerful memory." I truly DON'T CARE about your Alaska experience with potheads, even though you keep desperately trying to make me care. It's part of that immaturity problem you've yet to deal with in your life.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

IMHO no one should smoke

August 30, 2008 - 12:51 ET by Free Stinker

IMHO no one should smoke marijuana or tobaco, but since it is legal in Alaska I am wondering what your point is?

My Point is that Palin Smoked Pot

August 30, 2008 - 12:53 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot

This is not some trick question.

And mine is "who cares?"

August 30, 2008 - 12:54 ET by sarcasmo

Apparently, the answer is "nobody but you."
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

exactly sarc

August 30, 2008 - 13:13 ET by Dee Bunk

this has caused Poptech to come unhinged. I can understand not being happy with the choice but this over reaction is bizarre.

If he wants people to vote for Obama he should just attack McCain, it's a much easier sell.

 

Obama and Frank Marshall Davis

August 30, 2008 - 13:32 ET by Ten7s

I'm much more concerned with the "long evenings" that Obama spent smoking pot with and suckling at the political knees of Communist luminary Frank Marshall Davis.

Wow, so Sarah Palin smoked a joint. I'm sure PT never has.

August 30, 2008 - 22:20 ET by R D Helm

Right, PT?

Good grief!

-Dave.

That's not "new"

August 30, 2008 - 12:55 ET by Free Stinker

That's not "new" news.

Got anything else?

Palin Smoking Pot is not News? Really?

August 30, 2008 - 13:06 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

PT

August 30, 2008 - 13:11 ET by Free Stinker


That's not "new" news.

See that word in the middle there, in quotes?  Look at my original message carefully and you'll see it.

Did you intentionally leave that word out to change the entire meaning of my remark, or have you let your blind hatred of Sarah Palin affect your reading comprehension ?

Did Palin intentionally Smoke Pot?

August 30, 2008 - 13:16 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

I don't hate anbody, I just don't support affirmative action.

Sorry. Doesn't work that way.

August 30, 2008 - 13:20 ET by Free Stinker

Sorry.  Doesn't work that way.  You need to answer my question about why you change my remark.

When you pointed out you were voting for Barr after I said "Have for voting for Obama" I apologized.  You could have the decency to do that if you made an honest mistake.  And if you didn't make a mistake, that shows me how dishonest you intend to be in your opposition to Palin.

Stating Palin Smoked Pot is Dishonest?

August 30, 2008 - 13:26 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

Bye bye! Have fun storming the castle !

August 30, 2008 - 13:42 ET by Free Stinker

Thank you for indirectly answering the honesty question for me.

FS: That's not "new" news?

PT: Palin Smoking Pot is not News? Really?

FS: Did you intentionally leave that word out to change the entire meaning of my remark, or have you let your blind hatred of Sarah Palin affect your reading comprehension ?

PT: *avoids the question*

What Castle? This is about Palin Smoking Pot

August 30, 2008 - 13:47 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

You are against Palin smoking?

August 30, 2008 - 13:49 ET by Free Stinker

You are against Palin smoking?

Sarc says it should be up to Palin if she smoked Pot

August 30, 2008 - 13:51 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

and she's the only politician

August 30, 2008 - 13:55 ET by sarcasmo

Who ever did! Sheesh. Someone's hysterical today.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Was Palin the only Politico to smoke Pot? I have no idea

August 30, 2008 - 14:02 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

Hysteria.

August 30, 2008 - 14:05 ET by sarcasmo

Hysteria.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

See that ? You didn't

August 30, 2008 - 13:58 ET by Free Stinker

See that ?

You didn't even notice I dropped the word "pot" back there.  Skipped it entirely.  See how it chnages the entire meaning of my question ?

Reaading comprehension.

Comprehension is Palin's Problem

August 30, 2008 - 14:00 ET by PopularTech

Comprehension is Palin's Problem

Pretty lame

August 30, 2008 - 18:25 ET by general company

Although I guess this is about the best we can now exspect from you now. Sad

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Ok now I get it Pop Tech

August 30, 2008 - 18:07 ET by shawn228

You are against her because she smoked pot. Lol. For a person  with supposed libertarian views, you sure are biased against people that smoke or have smoked pot in the past.

Real life video games are cool

The REALLY odd part is

August 30, 2008 - 18:11 ET by sarcasmo

That regardless of her long-past toking, Sarah Palin agrees with the pot prohibitionists. Meanwhile, Bob Barr (who only MIGHT have my vote) agrees with me, after a bit of "tough love," that pot prohibition laws don't work, expensively. PopTech's views are just a bit surreal when viewed in that light.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Sarc

August 30, 2008 - 18:17 ET by shawn228

Well at least he is debating and not throwing  100 links about how pot is bad for you. I have asked him so many times why people should not have the right to smoke pot and he will throw another 100 links at me why it is bad for you.

I say why not outlaw alchohol or tobacco and he will throw 100 links of why alchohol or tobacco is good for you.  lol. At least many can feel my pain now, with his attitude re: the VP nomination.

Real life video games are cool

Oslo, anyone?

August 30, 2008 - 20:08 ET by Unsane

Sounds to me like you and Sarc should take a trip to Oslo.  It's a nice city that people are quite uncomfortable letting their children walk around in, even with their parents, from the sound of things.  But you and him will LOVE it, for it is free to ROT from drugs... 

(h/t to Roger the Shrubber)

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Unsane seriously dude

August 30, 2008 - 22:06 ET by shawn228

It is almost 100 percent of time everytime when I post anything about Univesal healthcare or legalization of marijuana, that I see some snide reference from you. This is a free speech board and you can do what you like, but aren't you tired of saying your right all the time?

On no wait, don't answer that. You never get tired of saying how right you are. In all our debates, you have never called me names once, and I respect that, but it seems to me you can't stop telling people how right your are. Look at your Tax thread, seems you can't seem to every look at anyones point of view except for your own and love to belittle one that dares think differently from you.

Your a good guy Unsane,  but just a little too full of himself. 

Real life video games are cool

well Shawn

August 30, 2008 - 22:15 ET by

i don't see you or i going about telling people how we're wrong all the time, but you seem to think Unsane should??

explain grasshopper.....

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

botg

August 30, 2008 - 22:21 ET by shawn228

I'm just saying it never fails, that there will be a follow-comment from Unsane when I post on those topics. I don't pounce on him on any of his post. This is a free speech board, I was just wondering if he was tired of it yet.

Unsane and I actually get along quite well, if when  we don't talk politics :-)

Real life video games are cool

Enlighten me

August 30, 2008 - 22:15 ET by Unsane

Hmmmm...now, in order to satisfy your desire for me to self-criticize and otherwise show that I am in fact human, I recently stupidly destroyed my glasses with one of my elbows.  So, my eyesight may be a little on the poor side...

...but at what point have I repeatedly claimed I am right???

You seem to have less a problem with my ego (which rest assured in nonexistent as it is repeatedly tempered - disagree if you wish, you haven't seen what life has dished at me the past two years) than the fact that I challenge your religious tenets repeatedly with views I hold in confidence.  Rather than be all ticked off that I do in fact repeatedly challenge that religious dogma you so hold dear, at least stop and consider what I say.  I'm not out looking for converts...why should I be?  I'm not running for office, I don't hate myself that much.  But if I do write something that forces you (or others) to think...well, that's quite enough for me.  

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Unsane

August 30, 2008 - 22:26 ET by shawn228

I made the comment about your ego, because of the way you express your points to people you don't agree with. You belittle, them and are pretty condesending.

You can disagree with me anytime you like, I'm just tired of saying I believe in individual freedoms like pot and euthanasia, and you comment is always , the countrys that allow that are going nowhere" No where do you actually back up the fact that the USA will go nowhere, you just say those countrys are going nowhere.

Hey loud and clear, those countries are going nowhere, I get it. Just wanted to know if you might be tired of repeating that line over and over.

Real life video games are cool

So defensive this evening

August 30, 2008 - 22:42 ET by Unsane

Really?  The United States is going nowhere?  Sure.  Nevermind that this is where repeated advancements, innovations and inventions that can and do change the world occur.  Nevermind that since many of the world's industrialized nations decided long ago to coddle, baby, and pamper (and enable) their poor out of "compassion", THIS is the country where medical advancements occur.  Nevermind that THIS is the country that can and does globally project power. 

Sure, we have issues, but they pale compared to those of other countries.  That includes the debt.  Yeah, our national debt sucks, but Japan has a debt that is 194% of its GDP. 

Anyways, I didn't even bring this up, YOU did.  Please go over this entire THREAD and find a place where I specifically used my catchphrase.  And no, I don't mind bringing up the same thing over and over.  Reagan didn't.  Check a speech of his in 1964 and compare it to ones he gave in 1984.  Very little change.  Because he was principled.  He had his, I have mine. 

Belittling, condescending, etc etc etc...all in the mind of the beholder as far as I am concerned.  If anything, Leftist talking points and Leftist ideology are belittling and condescending to me.  (Unsane, you clearly cannot take care of yourself; what you REALLY need is a government nanny!!!)  But do you see me whining?  No.  Just fighting back.  With both barrels. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Unsane

August 30, 2008 - 23:05 ET by shawn228

I agree the United States if is the best country in the world. I do not agree with we legalized pot, it will have a detrimental effect on our society.

You did not use your catchphrase today, because I called you out on it on my first replay

It

is

always

the

same 

old  song

Its like your trump card

 

Real life video games are cool

Going nowhere

August 31, 2008 - 06:22 ET by Unsane

Wrong, shawn, I didn't use it at all.  You are the only one whining about it.  YOU are the one who brought it up.  I wasn't going to use it this time around though I reserve and deserve the right to use it at anytime.  But beware, for I have been kicking around a way to explain "Going Nowhere" in detail on the forums.  Look for it there soon.  Oh, and by the way, your crying about it only gives me more motivation. 

And if it wasn't at least effective in a slight way, you wouldn't be crying about it.   

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

"And if it wasn't at

August 31, 2008 - 12:27 ET by shawn228

"And if it wasn't at least effective in a slight way, you wouldn't be crying about it."   

I didn't cry about it, I just asked if you were tired of using the same old line. Theres other lines I find that are tired as well like, "Bush lied, people died" 'Blood for oil". Since I complain about those terms repeated over and over again, , I guess that makes them pretty effective in a slight way too huh?

Real life video games are cool

LOL, shawn-On what planet are PT's views libertarian?

August 30, 2008 - 22:26 ET by R D Helm

Trust me, PT would not recognize ultimate freedom if it bit him squarely in the ass.

Twice.  :-)

-Dave.

Lol Dave

August 30, 2008 - 22:38 ET by shawn228

I would imagine Uranaus Dave :-) Some Libertarian he is, He likes freedom, but he feels it is harmful to society to burn one, have a big bag of Pringles and Dip and watch the Star Wars trilogy.

Real life video games are cool

shawn, so PT thinks watching the Star Wars trilogy is harmful?

August 30, 2008 - 22:45 ET by R D Helm

I mean, its science bleeping fiction.

LOL-And as I recall, the good guys ultimately triumphed. Hell, I've only seen the movies about a gazillion times, but what do I know?

Lol-Perhaps PT would have preferred the Empire had won the day?

Sheesh, maybe I am missing something.

-Dave.

Dave

August 30, 2008 - 22:50 ET by shawn228

Well.......he didn't actually say that. I as just using a example of Stereotype for stoners.

I had my share of ummm herb tea when I bought the trilogy on my VCR back then. Those Ewoks are interesting lookin little things huh?

Basically he is very much against the legalization of pot and will throw hundreds of links your way if need be.

Real life video games are cool

evenin' dave

August 30, 2008 - 22:39 ET by candance

I haven't been able to talk with you much since the big announcement yesterday.

What are your views on this?

Mornin' candance.

August 30, 2008 - 23:18 ET by R D Helm

I'll have to get back to you, as I haven't really noodled this completely out as yet.

I see both positives and negatives here, honestly.

LOL-I haven't taken a day off in 14 days. Tired, I am.

-Dave.

um yeah...

August 30, 2008 - 23:29 ET by candance

One thing that annoys me is people who claim alliance with a political party when having no idea what that party stands for. Pop is in for a rude awakening when he realizes what libertarians actually want.

For example in chat the other night Shawn was asking Pop about the FDA. Me being a good conservie, I believe the FDA is just another garden variety government program with too much power. It shocked me to see Pop defend the FDA like it was the FBI or sumpin.

Pop might be a lot of things, but a libertarian he aint.

Shawn,

August 30, 2008 - 22:54 ET by RESTLESS 1

I asked yesterday, when Pop said he was voting libertarian, why he would vote for a ticket that absolutely disagree with him socially. The threads have gotten so long that I have not been able to find that post, so I don't know if there was an answer or what it may have been.

I don't think he came this unhinged when McCain became the obvious nominee.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Restless

August 30, 2008 - 23:24 ET by shawn228

It is probably like a Jedi Mind trick. He probably thinks if he floods you with enough links you will forget the original question. He is having a very hard time now, because most articles before yesterday re: Sarah Palin have been mostly positive.

Real life video games are cool

@ss    

August 30, 2008 - 19:35 ET by bretzysdude

@ss

 

 

and barry did coke

August 30, 2008 - 14:44 ET by midnight cowboy

and barry did coke

But thats different

August 30, 2008 - 18:20 ET by general company

That is what make him so appealing to the masses

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

this is ridiculous

August 30, 2008 - 22:34 ET by candance

Repeating the same line eight times in a row doesn't make it any more effective.

Now you're just randomly looking for embarrassing things to post on NB that can smear Palin. You used to be a really nice guy. I don't understand what happened.

She makes me want to put up a yard sign.

August 30, 2008 - 10:03 ET by supercon

And donate a coupla' bucks to John.
I am enjoying the way that the lefties are at DEFCON 1 over this.It shows that it struck a nerve.

No one got all upset when Obama picked Biden for VP as it really didn't affect the race.

Actually I was sort of relieved when he picked him because it added a certain amount of boringness to his campaign.

McCain rocked back Obama with this and if she gives a good performance Wednesday night at the convention it's gonna' hurt a little in ObamaLand.

All the disaffected Hillary voters will be looking at Obama with daggers in their eyes like a wife who got a vaccuum cleaner as an aniversary gift.

 

Victory in Iraq.

Liberals suck.

McCain for Preznint.

My check is on the way ...

August 30, 2008 - 10:03 ET by Dave Pierre

It's the next day, and I'm still excited.

A GREAT choice by McCain!

I've ordered my "McCain/Palin" bumper stickers.

I hope the Dems

August 30, 2008 - 10:08 ET by MrDebater

keep attacking her on "experience"...this argument will constantly showcase Obama's lack thereof...in reality, she actually has more EXECUTIVE experience than Obama. I'm all for her as VP. I don't understand how the Dems can compare the experience of their PRESIDENTIAL candidate with the experience of the Republican's VP candidate's pick...apples to oranges...doesn't work.

Whooo!

August 30, 2008 - 10:08 ET by DontFeedTheTrolls

I know very little about Palin, hope she lives up to the high expectations expressed here and elsewhere.

Watching her and McCain at her acceptance speech I did notice the stark, black and white, difference between the 2008 Republican and Democrat sides. The Democrats always, ALWAYS, attack, attack, attack, almost always mention Bush, Katrina, Abu Graib, etc.. The Republican side? Palin praised Clinton, Ferraro, etc., not a single negative word, no attacks. Wow, what a difference. Can't wait for the debates.

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

praise for both sides

August 30, 2008 - 10:29 ET by nicholas nickleby

actually, almost every speech at the Dem Convention praised John McCain as a war hero. The most they did to attack him was to say that he doesn't understand the situation of the average American--the Obama campaign has never attacked McCain for being involved in the Keating S&L scandal nor for cheating on his first wife.

nicholas

August 30, 2008 - 12:37 ET by MrShy

"Obama campaign has never attacked McCain for being involved in the Keating S&L scandal nor for cheating on his first wife."

Nor would they or should they, as you can bet not a peep about the endless list of shady associations and highly questionable decisions in Obama's past -- must I list them for you? -- will be brought up by the McCain camp.

But that's not even the right counter argument to be making, anyway. We're talking about the endless attacks they make on all things GOP currently. Just look at the main ticket's ("old politics" Joe and "no more of the same old polit.... wait, um..." Barry) AND both Clinton's speeches.

Suck it up and admit that every night and every speech at the DNC convention was littered with anti-Bush and anti-McCain rhetoric, in a desperate attempt to fill the void that exists of any concrete ideas and values in their party.

Liberals truly live in an alternate world, that's apparently very comfy to them.

  

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

whoa--i didn't say no one attacked McCain/Bush

August 30, 2008 - 13:03 ET by nicholas nickleby

MrShy, you are right, the Dems did attack Bush and McCain. We agree on that. The issue that was raised above [by DontFeedtheTrolls] was that the Dems ONLY attacked. All I said was that the Dems--in almost every speech that I saw--had nice things to say about McCain's military record.

(This is a minor issue, but I wanted to raise it because, frankly, a lot of people talk about the news without bothering to watch it. For instance, General Company below asks how many "USA!" chants there were at the DNC. Now, as an informed citizen, I watched the DNC, just as I'll watch the RNC, and I think other people should, too--and if General Company had watched, he would have seen a few "USA!" chants over the four days.)

Now, as to your issue of Obama's past shady deals, the only thing that I've seen was a flurry of Rezko-related material right after McCain's "I don't remember how many houses I have" gaffe, and that was from McCain campaign employees. As Obama was cleared of any wrong-doing... well, yes, I would like you to list some other shady associations he's been involved with. And, after that, I'd also like you, as an informed citizen, to list a number of shady deals McCain has been involved in. (Actually, the Keating scandal and the Rezko scandal are funny to compare: Obama and McCain both were cleared, but both said something like "yeah, it was stupid of me to do something like that, if only because it looked bad.") Maybe neither of these guys are pure, and as informed citizens, it's our duty to be informed about these issues. Don't you agree?

One of the stark contrasts

August 30, 2008 - 11:04 ET by Hermano

One of the stark contrasts between the two parties that I have noticed:

When Obama speaks, his supporters chant O bam a and wave Obama signs.

When McCain and Palin spoke, their supporters chant USA and wave American flags.

This speaks volumes to me.

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Hermano

August 30, 2008 - 11:19 ET by MrShy

When Obama speaks, his supporters chant O bam a and wave Obama signs.

When McCain and Palin spoke, their supporters chant USA and wave American flags.

PRECISELY!!! Great observation!

And that sums up liberals. It's all about personality and superficiality with them. The good of our nation is the last of their concerns. 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

once again, a correction

August 30, 2008 - 11:48 ET by nicholas nickleby

in fact, during the convention, 80k Democrats did chant "USA" (among other things).

if you don't see people chanting "McCain," that's probably because (a) his name is less chantable (with two syllables, you'd have to chant it to a pretty fast beat or draw the syllables out or add a third--like "John" or "hey") and (b) many conservative Republicans don't really like/trust him all that much.

OutFoxed

August 30, 2008 - 10:08 ET by NoMoreClintons

This selection is driving the liberals up the wall.  Now, their vitriol knows no bounds. They got outfoxed by McCain and they know it.  What a great strategist he is!  Must be the military background.  I love the one comment on Politico where the guy came home from work yesterday and his wife told him "I think I'm going to vote now".  Beautiful.  My check will be in the mail Tuesday and I can't wait for the bumper sticker.

Yes...

August 30, 2008 - 10:10 ET by dasher

I made a contribution to McCain/Palin late last night. The more I read about Sarah Palin, the more it is obvious that she was a great choice.

 

"Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink."  P.J.O'Rourke

Just the first day

August 30, 2008 - 10:10 ET by ricklail

I have already heard or seen just about eveything the MSM and Dems can throw at her in 24 hours. They are not going to beat her so they are going to try and make her quit the race. The way I see it she is already doing the toughest job in the world of being a mother. To make that job even harder is the fact she has teenagers and a baby with Down's. I don't think they are going to phase her one bit.

It is going to get worse.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

Some background reading for you

August 30, 2008 - 10:13 ET by mom_rox

2 articles from the Anchorage Daily News during Palin's gubernatorial campaign - October 2006

part 1
part 2

A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944

Politico's Hit Piece and Bill O'Reilly

August 30, 2008 - 10:31 ET by Rush Fan

The DRUDGE REPORT has a link to a Politico article titled 6 things the Palin pick says about McCain. As an example of the liberal bias of this article here are just a few samples:

1."But it is remarkable that someone who has repeatedly emphasized experience in this campaign named an inexperienced governor he barely knew to be his No. 2."

2."He’s desperate."

3."On top of that, voters seem very inclined to elect Democrats in general this election — and very sick of the Bush years."

4."The Republican brand is a mess."

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Bill O’Reilly on Friday angrily pointed out that MSNBC has moved so far to the left that their “Breaking News” banner after Sarah Palin's announcement displayed something like “How many houses will Palin add to ticket?” another inference to John McCain’s multiple homes.

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“There is no sane movement in a sane environment that would back a man with his credentials such as they are for the highest office in the land.” ~ Rush Limbaugh on Democrats nominating Barack Obama

 

Mark Steyn pushes some buttons

August 30, 2008 - 10:56 ET by dbo

6 reason's McCain picked Palin.

http://corner.nation...

It's 24 hours after Gov.

August 30, 2008 - 10:49 ET by celator

It's 24 hours after Gov. Palin was named VP choice for the ticket
and I am still extremely pleased, for all the reasons cited by others.

I
did notice one characteristic in how she presents herself that will
confound, anger and intimidate the MSM and the D's: her ability to
speak directly to people, and resonate something very positive in them.
I felt it. She's got the Reagan gift, very rare indeed, to speak over
and through the MSM filtering system. That's a rare ability, and
extremely powerful.

I did get one of those Rasmussen telephone
surveys last night. After all the usual stuff--age, party affiliation,
intention to vote, etc-- the key questions were about Gov. Palin. Did
she help the ticket, was I more likely to vote for McCain because she
was on the ticket, etc. So they are tracking this closely.

 

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

.

August 30, 2008 - 10:56 ET by Andante

.

I am ok with it. Better than ok.

August 30, 2008 - 11:16 ET by JWF

  20 year Navy man, 17 years overseas, last 3 here in CONUS but I was busy with work, studying for certifications for my 2nd career, and catching up with all the Sitcoms I missed.

  Did you guys know about teh funnyness of Cheers & Newhart & Wings?

 Her son is going to Iraq soon. Sen. McCain's son has been there already. I am ordering my yard sign as soon as I finish this post!

 Here is my problem. Being out of the U.S so long, I never got to watch conventions. I have had a chance to watch the 2 democratic conventions now. The lastest 2. How have you people put up with this bull?

  I never never never never want to go through that again. This last week was the most aggravating, frustrating, grating, stressfull, shoot-me-in-the-head-puhlease experience I ever... Sorry, a shiver ran down my spine.

  Honest to god, I am turning off the tv and the radio and sorry guys I cannot even visit NewBusters next time. Thank God they have the Republican convention this week to sort of set my head back right.

  Yes, I can easily live with the VP pick. I will still fight them tooth and nail over the global warming horsepoo. But I can easily pull the voting lever.

 

Perfect choice.

August 30, 2008 - 11:19 ET by Mrltavern

I think this was the perfect choice to steal Obama's thunder. I think she's absolutely qualified for this job and I think people need to stop fearmongering and making it as if Mccain is going to drop dead within a year and he's going to leave us with inexperienced. Come on. stop. You could easily say the same thing about Obama that he could be assasinated and we're left with the used car salesman plagurizer Biden.

She's warm, funny, pretty, smart, knowledgeable on issues and embodies the American working mother.

I am so very proud of this pick and of my country with this news.

Mr.L

I am loving this...

August 30, 2008 - 11:42 ET by Hippopaulimus

 

Senator McCain outflanked the Dems majorly. You know they had attacks all set to go about any of the expected choices. Yesterday, they looked like a bunch of ants that just had their hill kicked over! Scurry, scurry scurry...

And when McCain becomes President, they will live in fear every day that something will happen to him, and the first woman President will have an R after her name! Thus, the heart beat away comment...they are scared, and they should be. This is obviously the stronger ticket...and they never saw it coming...Hey Dems!, if McCain is so old and decrepit, how did he just roundhouse kick you in the back of the head?...

I was going to vote against Obama this fall. But, after his performance these past few weeks, I am now going to vote for  McCain.

Like I've said before, when McCain gets a taste of the venom spewed at him by his former Democratic "friends",  he will lose his RINO sensibilities, and come back to the light. (just look at what happened to his friend Joe Lieberman)

 

White                  -  does not mean racist

Heterosexual     - does not mean homophobic 

Male                    - does not mean sexist 

It's clear to me that the

August 30, 2008 - 13:15 ET by celator

It's clear to me that the Democrats are terrified of having a woman president, whether a D or an R. Says a lot about them. Talk about an old boy's network.

The major media report only half the news. Why are they surprised they have only half the potential audience?

Palin Smoked Pot!

August 30, 2008 - 11:41 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot! - What a Role Model for young girls!

You know you guys love me.

Who cares??

August 30, 2008 - 11:50 ET by sarcasmo

She didn't like it, and so did plenty of other politicians who haven't been honest enough to admit to it, so big deal. Sarah's been a LOT more rational about the tax and spend drugwar than most Republicans, and a LOT more rational than that ultrastatist Joe Biden, whose "RAVE Act" was at least as stupid & hysterical as any idiotic drugwar legislation the Republicans have ever scraped from the bottom of their own statist control-freak barrel. (Hmm. Looks like I've insulted both 'major' parties in the same post again -- oh well!)
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Thank you Sarc !

August 30, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Free Stinker

Thank you Sarc !  ;-)

You can count on me

August 30, 2008 - 11:59 ET by sarcasmo

For that "double-insult" flavored post. ;) And Biden's "RAVE" law really IS an example of over the top hysteria taking precedence over anything resembling logic in lawmaking. Naturally, young people who want to fry their brains on MDMA while dancing to loud, unlistenable "music" have continued to do so despite Biden's law attacking property owners. 
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Not for you Sarc

August 30, 2008 - 12:03 ET by PopularTech

This one is not for you Sarc.

Huh??

August 30, 2008 - 12:31 ET by sarcasmo

I'm always the judge of that around here, until a certain guy named Sheffield kicks me out. You have 0 (zero) say in the matter of what I comment on or ignore, so please keep that in mind.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Comment Away

August 30, 2008 - 12:41 ET by PopularTech

But the post had nothing to do with you, then again your comments actually do help so thanks.

The post had to do with pot and drugwar hysteria

August 30, 2008 - 12:43 ET by sarcasmo

And therefore I decided, not you, that it had to do with me. Again, zero say. Get used to it.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

As I understand it,

August 30, 2008 - 12:48 ET by Free Stinker

As I understand it, Marijuana is somewhat legal in Alaska.

I'm not sure what point PT thinks you helped him prove?  That the current GOP V.P.  candidate once did something legal ?

Of Course Palin "Legally" Smoked Pot.

August 30, 2008 - 12:50 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot! - What a Role Model for young girls!

So what??

August 30, 2008 - 12:52 ET by sarcasmo

You're even more boring than usual today. Big deal. Again, nobody but you gives a crap, which is a good thing.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Why would nobody give a crap Palin Smoked Pot?

August 30, 2008 - 13:08 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

Do sour grapes produce a bad whine?

August 30, 2008 - 13:34 ET by acumen

Probably for the same reason nobody gives a crap if she drank a beer.  Like beer, smoking pot in Alaska is legal.  Unless she liked either so much it became an addiction and still affects her work and/or family life then who cares?

But you know that is not the case, don't you Pop?  Do you want me to post her response about how she feels about pot or would you prefer to do so?  Or would that hurt your attempt to further slander this woman's character?

What the hell, up until Palin got the nod you've always supported the complete facts so I'll post Palin's response; "but says she (Palin) didn't like it (pot) and doesn't smoke it (pot) now."  No opinion from Palin yet about her position on beer.

I said Palin Smoked Pot not drank Beer

August 30, 2008 - 13:37 ET by PopularTech

Palin Smoked Pot!

I fail to see how telling a fact is slander. So sue me! Oh wait she doesn't have a law degree just a B.S. in Journalism.

I think Pop is mad today

August 30, 2008 - 17:55 ET by Hermano

I think Pop is mad today because his pot is burning in his pants.

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Because it's a non-issue

August 30, 2008 - 13:35 ET by sarcasmo

And because there are more important things to discuss, even if you're hysterical about it. Oh, and I just posted. You fail.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Damn

August 30, 2008 - 13:38 ET by PopularTech

Damn

Scorecard

August 30, 2008 - 13:40 ET by Free Stinker

Sarc: 6

PopT: 0

I'd give them a tie of 0

August 30, 2008 - 20:14 ET by Unsane

Both are acting like childish, immature idiots.  It is fun to watch.  In a sick, twisted way... 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Yawn

August 30, 2008 - 20:24 ET by sarcasmo

And you're certainly an authority...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Thanks for the acknowledgement!

August 30, 2008 - 22:21 ET by Unsane

Indeed I am, Sarc, especially in your case.  It repeatedly blows my mind that you are older than I am, yet are less mature than I am.  Your post here proves once again that you are nothing more than a boor who is an extreme embarrassment to the cause you claim to hold so dear. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

On whose maturity scale are you anything like "mature"?

August 31, 2008 - 04:35 ET by sarcasmo

Wow. That's chutzpah, little boy!!
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Weaker than ever

August 31, 2008 - 06:27 ET by Unsane

So, your saying "That's chutzpah, little boy!" somehow proves you have greater maturity that I?

That's PATHETIC. No matter. Continue to embarrass yourself and your cause.

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

What cause??

August 31, 2008 - 06:52 ET by sarcasmo

I'm just mocking your dimwittery, it doesn't rise to the level of "cause."
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

She's a good role model

August 30, 2008 - 14:16 ET by CobraMan

"What a Role Model for young girls!"

Pop, you actually show why Mrs. Palin is a good role model for “young girls.” (Why, btw, can't she a role model for young BOYS?). Mrs. Palin shows us all that, despite past indiscretions, you really CAN advance yourself and achieve marvels things, like becoming a GOVERNOR, if you admit to, and accept responsibility for, the mistakes you made in the past and work hard to overcome them. She’s a Governor, that's second only to becoming a President, and she attained this position through hard work and determination. That's the kind of role model I want my children to see.

Obama: My job is above my pay grade

Gender Relevant Role Models

August 30, 2008 - 20:46 ET by PopularTech

This is not the DNC.

And, again, I say @ss.

August 30, 2008 - 19:37 ET by bretzysdude

And, again, I say @ss.

Only because I let you

August 30, 2008 - 12:48 ET by PopularTech

Now that I have allowed it you can post...

Same to you

August 30, 2008 - 12:51 ET by sarcasmo

Dream on...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

You are now not allowed to post

August 30, 2008 - 13:07 ET by PopularTech

Go ahead try to!

Scorecard

August 30, 2008 - 13:12 ET by Free Stinker

Sarc: 5

PopTech: 0

Huh? Do you see him posting?

August 30, 2008 - 13:16 ET by PopularTech

I don't!

So you're saying you have

August 30, 2008 - 13:26 ET by Free Stinker

So you're saying you have enough pull around NewsBusters to block him from commenting on this or any other thread ?

I will now prevent you from posting...

August 30, 2008 - 13:28 ET by PopularTech

Try to post now!

Have fun storming the

August 30, 2008 - 13:41 ET by Free Stinker

Have fun storming the castle.

Geez, Pop

August 30, 2008 - 11:55 ET by Blonde

Why don't you just feed all of your negativity and anti-Palin links directly to MSNBC?

In other words, tell it to someone who cares. 

You're doing this just to annoy people here.  All a**, no forehead.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde - this is very sad - it's like someon turned him into

August 30, 2008 - 13:58 ET by Dee Bunk

a kossiac

The GOP is a Collective Now?

August 30, 2008 - 14:05 ET by PopularTech

I had no idea that the GOP is a collective now.

Ya know

August 30, 2008 - 16:56 ET by I.am.DILLIGAF

PT when she smoked pot she was in Alaska and I do believe it is leagal there and has been for a long time. At least she admits that she smoked it and inhaled not like some other person we all know of. Just keep watching her bud she is gonna knock the socks off of the Dems. and that empty suit they have.

Guns and Violence are not the answer but they are one solution to the problem== SARG

AK and pot

August 30, 2008 - 20:24 ET by Unsane

Actually, pot is legal there, up to 1 oz, thanks to a 1975 AK Supreme Court ruling.  So, if you are stopped for a traffic violation by the Anchorage A--holes and Power Trippers (I have zero respect for what they call "cops"), and they see a joint in your car, they won't do anything because legally they can't under AK law.

In 2004 there was a Prop 2 proposed to legalize pot.  (Shawn228 would have loved the campaign; at one point sob story after sob story was being rolled out by the pro-Prop 2 side to encourage people to legalize pot.) That effort went down in flames.    

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Palin Smoking

August 30, 2008 - 22:54 ET by Judith

Here's one girl with a message for you PT---F&&k Off.

Palin for Benefits for Gays!

August 30, 2008 - 11:46 ET by PopularTech

Same-sex benefits ban gets Palin veto (Anchorage Daily News)

That is a Specious

August 30, 2008 - 11:51 ET by Free Stinker

That is a Specious argument.

Her attorney general told her any bill she signed would be immediately over-turned by the Alaska State Supreme Court which had just ruled in favor of same-sex benefits.

I guess you would have preferred if she made Alaska spend taxpayers $$$s on a losing court battle. 

 

Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !

She really did not Veto the Bill Banning Benefits to Gays?

August 30, 2008 - 12:01 ET by PopularTech

What would Huckabee have done is the real question. I thought she was a social conservative?

You bring up that jxckxss Hucklebee?

August 30, 2008 - 12:05 ET by Free Stinker

You bring up that jxckxss Hucklebee?  I bet he woudl have wasted the taxpayers money in a losing court fight.

 

Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !

I agree Huckabee is a jackass and a Mormon Hater

August 30, 2008 - 12:09 ET by PopularTech

But all that matters is what he would have done. I mean Mitt should have went against the Supreme Court of Mass. So what is Palin's excuse? Obviously not Social Con Material!

Popular Tech, I agree about Hucksterbee

August 30, 2008 - 12:29 ET by jefflebowski

It has always been interesting to me that all these "men of God" spend so much of their time bashing religion. 

Common
courtesy dictates showing respect for something that someone else holds
sacred (if they're not flying planes into buildings).  I've also been
very dubious when somebody makes their living off of religion.  Would
they do it if they weren't paid?  Interesting point, a Mormon friend
told me that there is no paid clergy in their church.  All the
positions are voluntary.  Would Hucksterbee or Benny Hinn be "men of
God" if they weren't making a fortune?  Me thinks not.

Romney was my man and it didn't bother me one bit that he is a Mormon.  They seem to be very honorable people to me.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

So what is Palin's

August 30, 2008 - 12:34 ET by Free Stinker

So what is Palin's excuse?

I believe I already covered this.  She doesn't spend taxpayer money on losing fights.

She is on record as wanting to give the voters a chance to ammend Alaska's constitution to get around the Alaska Supreme Court decsion.

Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !

Palin Vetoed a Bill Banning Benefits for Gays

August 30, 2008 - 12:42 ET by PopularTech

Spin, spin, spin!

Sarah is;

August 30, 2008 - 12:05 ET by kilrod

 I posted this yesterday and i stand by it today.

Sarah is;

August 29, 2008 - 21:50 ET by kilrod

 First, congratulations to Sarah Palin, she is an excellent pick, and congratulations to Ole Mac for his brilliance in making the pick, i be leive they will win.!!

Best i can tell Sarah is everything a liberal despises; She is smart, educated, successfull, a good mother of 5, a good wife, a Christian, Pro-Life, Gov. of Alaska, lifetime member of the NRA,, former top athelete, former beauty queen, and a good decent person. She accomplished all this on her own right, without the help of "now", affirmitive action, the feminist, liberals,and least of all the dims. Exactly the kind of woman liberals love to hate so i expect the libs to do everything they can to destroy her. She is not beholden to the libs for her success and they can't stand that. She is an example of what the U.S.A. used to stand for, self reliant, self sufficient, and independent. She has made her way simply by standing up for what is good and right and decent, standing on the simple and solid ground of the truth. She has my admiration and respect.

kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Could not help but notice

August 30, 2008 - 12:34 ET by general company

Could not help but notice that when McCain intruduced her their were several USA chants during her speech, cant help but wonder how many there were at the Dems convention

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

USA

August 30, 2008 - 13:02 ET by DontFeedTheTrolls

It's official.

At the (R) convention the official chant is - U S A

At the (D) convention the official chant is - O BA MA (or else)

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Thanks for the reminder

August 30, 2008 - 13:26 ET by general company

Oh, thats right, sorry I forgot. : ]

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I just watched CNN's Your

August 30, 2008 - 13:37 ET by ricklail

I just watched CNN's Your Money. Normally I wouldn't watch anything on there but Andrew Wilkow annouced he would be on there. Some fool who I never heard of and was black called Gov. Palin "a token."  He kept going on and on about her lack of experience as compared to Obama. These idiots just cannot understand there is no comparsion between the VP canidate and the canidate for POTUS. I don't think this experience issue is going to fly.  I could see how frustrated Andrew was getting with this clown. It is good think they had to end it or he may wound up telling him what he really thought.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

Try Comparing VP Candidates...

August 30, 2008 - 13:41 ET by PopularTech

Sarah Palin

Age: 44

Family:
- Husband: Todd
- 5 Children: Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper, Trig

Religion:
- Pentecostal

Education:
- B.S. Journalism, University of Idaho, 1987

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member, Wasilla City Council, Alaska, 1992-1996 (pop: 6,715)
- Former Mayor, Wasilla City, Alaska, 1996-2002 (pop: 6,715) (Votes: 909)
- Candidate, Lieutenant Governor, Alaska, 2002
- Governor, Alaska, 2006-present (less than 2 years) (pop: 670,053)
Total Career Political Votes: 188,125

Professional Experience:
- First Place, Miss Wasilla Beauty Contest, 1984
- Second Place, Miss Alaska Pageant, 1984
- Television Sports Reporter, 1987-1989

Joe Biden:

Age: 65

Family:
- Wife: Jill
- 3 Children: Beau, Hunter, Ashley

Religion:
- Roman Catholic

Education:
- B.A. History/Political Science, University of Delaware, 1965
- J.D. Syracuse University College of Law, 1968

Political Experience:
- Former Council Member of New Castle County Council, Delaware, 1970-1972 (pop: 500,265)
- U.S. Senator, Delaware, 1973-present (pop: 853,476)
Total Career Political Votes: 929,170

Committees:
- Foreign Relations, Member
- Health, Education, Labor & Pensions, Member
- Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Member
- Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Member
- Subcommittee on African Affairs, Member
- Subcommittee on Children and Families, Member
- Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs, Member
- Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety, Member
- Subcommittee on European Affairs, Chair
- Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security, Member
- Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection, Member
- Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration, Member
- Veterans’ Affairs, Member

Professional Experience:
- Attorney, Private Practice, Wilmington, Delaware, 1968-1972
- Adjunct Professor, Widener University School of Law, 1991-present

Does this site have a moderator?

August 30, 2008 - 14:05 ET by cest moi

Am I the only one fed up with the "I-Know-You-Are-But-What-Am-I" posts that are stacking up?

So what should be done?

August 30, 2008 - 14:10 ET by PopularTech

I'd suggest either lithium

August 30, 2008 - 14:13 ET by sarcasmo

Or some self control, but it's up to you...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

Hell, let's get pitchforks

August 30, 2008 - 19:39 ET by bretzysdude

Hell, let's get pitchforks and torches and track this @ss down!

Your spamming posts should be delteted

August 30, 2008 - 14:23 ET by Dee Bunk

and you should be warned about your name calling

Ok, sounds good! Why not just Ban Me?

August 30, 2008 - 14:27 ET by PopularTech

I should definitely be censored and everyone else can call me names, that should be fair. Why not just Ban Me?

I mean I am only going to find more and more stuff on Palin.

That'll be a refreshing change...

August 30, 2008 - 14:30 ET by sarcasmo

So far all we've seen is the same & the same-repeated, over and over, from you. Hence the complaints about your recent hysteria.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

I wouldn't want you banned

August 30, 2008 - 14:34 ET by Blonde

But a time out might suffice.

It generally does for ill-behaving children. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

PT, we allready get that

August 30, 2008 - 14:38 ET by Blazer

PT, we allready get that your pro-Russian, but what's the deal with your latest attacks against Palin, she is a conservative with definitive credentials ?

I'm with Blonde, I think you need some 'quiet' time, or some time in the corner.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Why not just Ban Me?

August 30, 2008 - 14:43 ET by Free Stinker


Why not just ban me?

No ban.  A mere spam block would be fine.  We saw the "Sarah Palin Smoked Pot" comment the first 15 times.  The other 85 carbon copies were unnecessary.

I mean I am only going to find more and more stuff on Palin.

We'll be waiting.

 Hey Free, ya' know there

August 30, 2008 - 14:50 ET by Blazer

 Hey Free, ya' know there was a time in my life where I was decidedly liberal, and happened to smoke copiuos amounts of pot too. Maybe PT would like to denigrate me and assuage my conservativeness.

When I stopped smoking weed, and started seeing the virtues of being a conservative, was also around the same time I got a job, moved out of mom and dads basement and decided to get married and raise a family, coincidence ?

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

This explains a lot

August 30, 2008 - 20:58 ET by PopularTech

.... a lot.

between Blazer and Pop Tech

August 30, 2008 - 21:04 ET by

one has shown an ability to learn and assimilate new viewpoints.

yes indeed there is a lot explained here,  a lot indeed

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

I agree this calls for moderator action

August 30, 2008 - 14:22 ET by Dee Bunk

especially the spamming. I used to think we could handle our own problems here but it's not the case - we need moderators.

Poptech is spamming the same exact (or almost exact) stuff in multiple places

Relax they will be here soon...

August 30, 2008 - 14:24 ET by PopularTech

They are probably enjoying the weekend.

Maybe you should to

August 30, 2008 - 17:02 ET by general company

So PT what do you hope to accomplish. You hoping to change minds, or do you have another plan? You sound very childish, kinda like you dropped your ice cream and you think it is your sisters fault. We have come to think of you as a bit more then a simple brat. Maybe you should go to the movies or something to help you relax?

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Moderator

August 30, 2008 - 22:59 ET by Judith

If there is a moderator, then moderate! Chas Johnson wouldn't put up with this redundant crap.

There There Mrs. Greenspan....

August 30, 2008 - 14:23 ET by Barker

When I saw the look on Andrea Mitchell's face yesterday I knew John McCain had hit a grand slam with his pick of Sarah Palin.

I swear she was about to cry; the poor dear.

Palin backed Alaskan windfall-profits tax (Hot Air)

August 30, 2008 - 14:54 ET by PopularTech

Palin backed Alaskan windfall-profits tax (Hot Air)

This gets better by the minute!

Palin backed Alaskan windfall-profits tax

August 30, 2008 - 15:06 ET by Free Stinker

Here are the facts for those who do not make their decisions based upon headlines alone.

Palin changed the tax system (now called ACES) after finding that the previous tax plan wasn't going to bring in nearly as much $$ as the former governor said (lied) it would. Not being a dupe of the Oil companies, Sarah Palin had the tax law changed, and also had public forums for people to comment upon this.

Update: I noted some of this previously here: Sarah Palin is not afraid of "Big Business"  

Here is the first apragraph from the article:  JUNEAU -- The State of Alaska got about $1.5 billion richer Friday -- and all of it thanks to a governor unafraid of the powerful oil industry, a handful of convicted felons, and a state Legislature that opted not to vote along party lines.

Someone's arguements get more specious by the minute.

Palin Caused Gas Prices to Increase - Alaska Raised Tax 25%

August 30, 2008 - 15:16 ET by PopularTech

Nice Spin but the truth speaks for itself...

Alaska Raises Tax On Oil Profits To 25% (CBS News)

Specious

August 30, 2008 - 15:20 ET by Free Stinker

Not spin at all.

But keep trying to work your magic.

CBS Must be lying then?

August 30, 2008 - 15:37 ET by PopularTech

Alaska Raises Tax On Oil Profits To 25% (CBS News)

No magic, just the facts.

So you support all the

August 30, 2008 - 15:39 ET by Free Stinker

So you support all the previous corruption in Alaska, and how the Oil companies had the pre-Palin governor eating out of their hand?

Thanks for clearing that up.

It is ok the Taxes really did not go up under Palin

August 30, 2008 - 15:42 ET by PopularTech

We can all pretend.

PT & EVERYONE

August 30, 2008 - 17:11 ET by MrShy

Okay, you don't like the Palin pick. Duly noted.

Everyone else -- and PT -- drop it! It's way past tedious.

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

No doubt she caused those

August 30, 2008 - 15:22 ET by Blazer

No doubt she caused those increases due to her fighting the croneiness and corruption within her own government in Alaska being married to, or beholden to the oil companies, PT. in the long run her policies were good for Alaskans and America as a whole.

I realize your po'ed that the fake Mass. Repub. Romney or Pawlenty weren't nominated but just what the hech did they bring to the table anyway, a set of testicles ?

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

Keep Spining

August 30, 2008 - 15:35 ET by PopularTech

Oil Profit Taxes went to 25% on Palin's watch.

Romney brought real qualifications; highly educated, extensive executive experience (both public and private), true economic experience, no vices and most importantly the ability to be Commander in Chief Day 1...

Mitt Romney:

Age: 60

Family:
- Wife: Ann
- 5 Children: Tagg, Matt, Josh, Ben, Craig

Religion:
- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Education:
- B.A. Brigham Young University, 1971
- J.D. Harvard University, 1975
- M.B.A. Harvard University, 1975

Political Experience:
- Governor, Massachusetts, 2003-2007 (pop: 6,437,193)
Total Career Political Votes: 6,839,107

Professional Experience:
- Vice President, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1978-1984
- CEO, Bain Capital, Incorporated, 1984-1998
- CEO, Bain and Company, Incorporated, 1991-1993
- President, Salt Lake Winter Olympics Organizing Committee, 1999-2002

Anyone who thought Romney was fake isn't very bright, he is as real as they come.

  "Anyone who thought

August 30, 2008 - 15:43 ET by Blazer

 

"Anyone who thought Romney was fake isn't very bright, he is as real as they come. "

 

Well PT anyone who can get elected in Taxachussetts isnt' a real conservative imho. No surprise that ol' Romney had to run to the left and go Pro-Choice to do that.

Sarah Palin is the real deal and is the bonafide conservative ol' Mitt wished he was and she didn't have to sucker the other side to get elected either.

Thanks for takin' the bait on Romney anyways, I knew you were P.O'ed about somethin', i just didn't realise it was about misogyny and chauvanism.

Say hi to Putin for me.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

                               " The Cake is a lie."   

This is just getting stupid

August 30, 2008 - 20:28 ET by Unsane

Pop, if you hate Palin that passionately, the solution is simple.

Stay at home.

Or, go vote for Obama.  And be happy! 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

I don't hater her, I simply do not believe in Affirmative Action

August 30, 2008 - 21:07 ET by PopularTech

There were plenty of more qualified people to be VP, Romney, Rudy, Colin Powell ect... this is just a joke.

Huh???

August 30, 2008 - 21:25 ET by Unsane

What "affirmative action"?  Would you be saying such if Kay Bailey Hutchison was picked?  Or another woman?

(Honestly, I would love to have seen Romney picked instead.  I would prefer that Palin win another gubernatorial election before moving up.  But I still like this pick.) 

I am otherwise an admirer of your work, but here we part ways. 

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

We all have our opinions.

August 30, 2008 - 21:31 ET by GregE

We all have our opinions. But you've for some reason gone off the deep end with your endless redundant rants about how you don't like her.  Present new reasons, new discussion.  There are others to vote for. Obama, Barr, Constitution party, Green party, etc. Go for it. We need a third party to someday break up this two party crapper.

Most posts I've ever seen from you I like. You always add links to content elsewhere and it's interesting. But today it's just making the threads very long for no reason. Reminds me of an Air America forum, where substance and ideas are rare but insults are endless. And NO it's not just you, it's the combination of the stuff flying back and forth between you and several others that is just lengthening the topics, making things harder for everyone to read, taking up space, and otherwise getting in the way of civil discussion. I can't stop you or anyone else so I'm probably talking to the wall but there it is.

others more qualified

August 30, 2008 - 23:26 ET by Judith

PT, its done, honey bun, its done. Yesterdays hash.

When the combination of her policies are as bad as Obama's

August 30, 2008 - 15:02 ET by Dee Bunk

then maybe we will listen. No politician agrees with anyone of us on everything and we don't even agree with each other on everything. Bringing up areas of disagreement doesn't mean anything without context.

Now with this election, the context is who's policies do you agree more with McCain/Palin or Obama/Biden. It's a no brainer for me. If you feel you need to vote for Obama - go ahead

Did you watch the Saddleback debate? It's re-running tonight at 8:00pm Eastern on Fox and I think again at 11:00pm. I suggest you watch that if you haven't as part of making your decision. If you won't be around you can record it.

Palin smoked pot - Obama snorted coke and smoked pot, so if drug use is a problem with you, then the McCain/Palin ticket is the lesser of two evils there.

I can't knowingly vote for drug users

August 30, 2008 - 15:07 ET by PopularTech

Taxing oil companies is just like Obama.

On one issue PT

August 30, 2008 - 15:41 ET by Dee Bunk

you ignored my whole point

not like Obama

August 30, 2008 - 16:12 ET by Andante

 by PopularTech ..."Taxing oil companies is just like Obama."

She wants to drill Anwar = not like Obama (and McCain) and that's good. Now McCain can say "Hey, the Governor of Alaska knows more about Anwar than Obama or me, if she thinks we should drill who am I to say no" 

 

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama

Wow ANWR! Big Deal

August 30, 2008 - 21:11 ET by PopularTech

So exciting... do the math it is not the be all and end all. Every Alaskan Politician is pro-drilling, just like most conservatives. This is hardly exciting.

Uneducated idiots need to stop listening to that hypocrite Newt and being led around like sheep.

Wrong, again

August 31, 2008 - 01:12 ET by Andante

 by PopularTech "...So exciting... do the math it is not the be all and end all."

Relax PT, you've got it wrong...again. I never said ANWR was the be all and end all. I'm beginning to think you live in a 'demon haunted world' (yeah I stole that but it was a good book)

We "uneducated idiots" know that ANWR is not a final or even a long term solution. Anwar is a short term fix that will help the economy while we find better energy solutions and drilling in ANWR would  signal OPEC that the party is just about over.  

A few weeks ago the mere possibility that we might consider off-shore drilling caused oil prices to drop. Can you imagine what would happen to the cost of gas if we actually stuck a drill bit in the ground?

How was that for an "uneducated idiot"?

Huked on foniks werkd fer me.

 

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama

Tiresome

August 30, 2008 - 15:57 ET by Karma

Affirmative Action

Vote with pants.

Smoked pot.

She's HOT.

Mmmmmm....Juicy Fruit.

Karma

August 30, 2008 - 17:29 ET by easygoer

Exactly, why respond to the kook?

Hey, do any of you guys remember during the Democrat primary in a northern industrial state that I can't recall Obama ridiculed Hillary's efforts to connect with the white working class and more specifically, hunters, with the line "she acts like she's out there in duck blind every morning" or something to that effect? I thought it was a good line and had a chuckle. Obviously, you can't say that about Palin, but she will have an authentic appeal to these voters. Also, we'll be spared from a Romney hunting photo op.

http://www.palmettos...

The next day still brings

August 30, 2008 - 16:44 ET by bigtimer

The next day still brings excitement to the base of the party...McCain finally gave a good excuse to vote for him for some of us..with some zest at that.

While I don't agree with all Palin has done in the past...I was tickled he picked her, it was one of the most brilliant moves he made...especially after Thursday night...I feared he would pick someone else that would not energize the base, let alone stick it into our eyes again.

The gal is a fighter... I can't wait to see the debate between her and Biden.

I have had more fun watching the msm meltdown...what fun it has been.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Right BT

August 30, 2008 - 17:13 ET by Dee Bunk

I'm fired up and excited for the first time since Romney dropped out. Even though I would have much rather had Romney than McCain - I think this ticket has the best chance of beating Obama.

He and Biden have a free pass from the media and it's going to take some clear comparisons of actual reform by McCain and Palin against Obama's empty promises to overcome the media hype and extreme money disadvantage.
This was such a bold pick and it has the media buzzing and took the attention off the Obamamessiah for the first time since he gave his 2004 convention speech.

These discussions sure to

August 30, 2008 - 17:24 ET by GregE

These discussions sure to get extremely long and a very high percentage BS when the personal insults on each other just go on and on and on. Ridiculous.

my word Blonde

August 30, 2008 - 17:51 ET by

your Gators chomped Hawaii today

"You can not support the Troops if you do not support their Mission" 

Latest poll...McCain/Palin vs Obama/Biden

August 30, 2008 - 19:51 ET by Andante

 47/45

From:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Zogby_Palin_Gives_McCain/2008/08/30/126447.html

"The interactive online Zogby survey shows that both Obama and McCain have solidified the support among their own parties - Obama won 86% support of Democrats and McCain 89% of Republicans in a two-way head-to-head poll question not including the running mates. When Biden and Palin are added to the mix, Obama's Democratic support remains at 86%, while McCain's increases to 92%. "

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama

Gallup Daily: Obama Continues to Lead 49% to 41%

August 30, 2008 - 19:52 ET by PopularTech

Gallup Daily: Obama Continues to Lead 49% to 41%

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!

August 30, 2008 - 19:59 ET by GregE

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!

wow

August 30, 2008 - 20:04 ET by MrShy

So all that pomp and circumstance.... you know, the TWO VENUES (the arena just wasn't enough) the Greek columns with a model-runway style extended platform, oh, and the Air Force One replica (which they quietly kept out of site for the festivities) and STILL.....

... nary a bump. I mean, from 2 to 7/8 up ain't a whole lot.

And now McCain has Palin and we'll see what the next polls reflect. Yummy! 

 

* * * SOCKS THE CAT '08 * * *
For REAL Change

.

August 30, 2008 - 20:50 ET by Andante

.

Oh yeah??

August 30, 2008 - 20:49 ET by Andante

Well, my pollster can beat up your pollster so there >:/'

(See what happens when you're raising a nine year old boy)

 

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama

stupid computer (certainly not operator error ;-)

August 30, 2008 - 19:49 ET by Andante

.

Andante... Heheee... I

August 30, 2008 - 19:54 ET by bigtimer

Andante...

Heheee...

I love your post above and the one above it!

You put the big old smile on my face.   ;)

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Thanks

August 30, 2008 - 20:28 ET by Andante

 I try to keep it light but sometimes willful ignorance drives me to the dark side. 

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" -- Obama

Uhh, yea, so?

August 30, 2008 - 20:04 ET by GregE

http://www.politico....

Good for them. People who are not actually running for any office not
being party-affiliated is how it should be. We could only dream of every American being
that way and getting out of calling themselves by a party name when they aren't running for anything.

If she's good enough for Craig Ferguson...

August 30, 2008 - 23:50 ET by cest moi

...she's good enough for me.

Enjoy! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh-lW2opLyQ

Thanks cest moi - that was great

August 31, 2008 - 00:02 ET by Dee Bunk

I love Craig Feruguson - that cracked me up

 

I continue to believe...

August 31, 2008 - 09:09 ET by Reality Check

...that McCain was probably the only Republican primary candidate that could win in an admittedly hostile political environment;

...that his selection of Palin shows that he is serious about winning;

...that the overwhelming positive response by grassroots Republicans shows clearly that the Republican party believes that a women's place is at the helm of this country;

...that the left's petty and sexist tactics during the first 24 hours show, equally clearly, how they truly feel about women who don't support their belittling agenda; 

...and finally, that the race has been turned upside-down.  The Republicans are the maverick, Washington-outsider party, up against a Daley Democrat and a lifetime DC partisan.

Delicious.  Simply delicious.

Reality Check