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For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Denver looks like the Clinton Convention!

Rarely in the history of American political conventions has the losing side received so much time and attention as this week in Denver. Barack Obama has been forced, by the clout Hillary Rodham Clinton showed in their primary battle and his need for her voters in his race against Republican John McCain, to allow the gathering of Democrats to look a lot like the Clinton Convention.

Could this backfire on Obama? Might he end up looking tremendously unpresidential and inexperienced tonight by comparison to the Clintons who gave great speeches the previous evenings? Has the bar been raised too high for him to even come close to the lofty expectations that have been set?

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Bruce Catton

Right on Roger the Shrubber, not only is Catton America's greatest Civil War historian, he's my favorite author, period. And he wasn't even a college proffesor, which must drive academia crazy.

I remember reading Terrible

I remember reading Terrible Swift Sword in high school. Great stuff. The guy was a master!

 

Same book?

I have a book called 'Lee's Terrible Swift Sword' by Richard Wheeler, published 1992.

LesserOf2evils '08

I imgaine there are 5,000

I imgaine there are 5,000 books with the same title :)

This is the one I was referring to.

 

Lee for President

It only stands to reason that you should read the aforementioned Lee's Terrible Swift Sword

The greatest general of that time.

LesserOf2evils '08

Who am I to second-guess

Who am I to second-guess Sgt. Rock?

How is Four-Eyes these days?

X

Lee was the Luckiest general in the Civil War. 

Gen George Thomas was the best

Generalship

Lee was the most daring general. No dispute that Thomas was outstanding but I believe James Longstreet was the best. His tactics especially, his theory of defensive war, foreshadowed what was to come in the 20th century. Fifty years later arrogant WW I European generals still had not grasped the lesson that he learned at Fredricksburg about the futility of charging well entrenched positions.

Longstreet got a bad rap for 1)daring to criticize Lee's tactics on the 3rd day at Gettysburg, which were terrible and which were the same as Burnside's Union Army at Fredricksburg on an even greater scale and 2) for having the temerity to join the Republican Party after the war.

Catton

My own favorite is his Army of the Potomac trilogy:

  • Mr. Lincoln's Army
  • Glory Road
  • A Stillness at Appomattox

Thing is, while all three are brilliant, I liked the first two better than the third and yet it's that one that won the Pulitzer. Either way what a beautiful and moving writer.

Crime Wave in Scandinavia

Shrub, your Socialist Sucess Story has a link to crime rates in all of Scandinavia.

Copehagen, Denmark-more than twice the crime rate of NYC

Stockholm, Sweden-more than 3 times the crime rate of NYC

Oslo, Norway-more than 4 times the crime rate of NYC

"The Oslo police are blaming the
increase on an influx of East Europeans, and Minister of Justice Knut
Storberget is reportedly partly in agreement".

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2299327.ece

See, plentiful drugs and

See, plentiful drugs and vice are good for the community. Keeps the police and other Gov agencies at full bore. Another unintended consequence, that is completely predictable to most of us.

But no doubt I am 100% wrong, as always. 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

So true

Yep.  If we DARE show what legalizing drugs can do, we can expect a beat-down of propaganda by those with an obsessive devotion to drugs.

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

All those swarthy Bo-Hunks

All those swarthy Bo-Hunks running wild in the fjords!

Rog...

That could be used as an Ad campaign to rid San Fran of it's gay population. Swarthy bo-hunks may cause the airline industry to add flights from San Fran to Europe. 

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Imagine those long, 10-hour

Imagine those long, 10-hour direct flights from San Fran to Oslo?

One big gay make-out session.

Not that there's anything wrong with that... 

*shudder*

Eeeeeewww!

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For the second day in a

For the second day in a row, why hasn't anybody told me Rosie O'Donnell was vacationing in Scandanavia?

 

I guess--

I guess-- no moose is good moose!

Has the bar been raised too

Has the bar been raised too high for him to even come close to the lofty expectations that have been set?

I think it's certainly possible that Obama's halo has been banged up a bit. But more importantly, I think it's highly probable, if McCain uses both barrels from here on out in his campaign, that Obama will be handily beaten. 

Monetary density

Of things, including that internet favorite, Kopi Luwak.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

I think the Clintons and

I think the Clintons and their minions will do to Obama what they have been doing to Bush.  They'll say "we would support you if you would just do this...", then after Obama does it they'll say "ok, now do this...", and in the end they'll never support him and the Clintons will get everything they want while offering nothing.

The smartest thing Obama could do would be to tell the Clintons and their fans to F off.

I would just like to post

I would just like to post that my biggest media issue this week is with Megan Kelly on FNC.  Why oh why did she cut her hair!  She used to look so hot with the long hair.  The shorter hair just doesn't get the job done.

Megyn Kelly

Well, let's hope she makes up to that with a favorable ratio of skirts to pants.  (Meaning, if she wears a skirt, say, 4 times for every time she wears pants, she at least knows and understands how important it is to be feminine as possible.)   

But yeah, I hope her hair isn't too short.  (I would have thought of Katie Cupcake as a hottie back in the day, but she insisted on having hair shorter than mine, and she looked awful, and I couldn't forgive that.  Amazingly, in her late 40s, she decided one day to have hair that goes to her shoulders and thus at least try to look feminine.  Too little, too late...too bad.)

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Megyn Kelly

She can read the phone book for all I care.  Just keep her on the air.

I like her segments on O'Reilly.  I wonder if there's a male News personality out there who offers more opportunities to women.

Torches & Pitchforks

More on Megyn

She can read the phone book for all I care.  Just keep her on the air.  Election Day 2006, as you know, sucked.  But what made it better was watching Fox News and Megyn Kelly's coverage.  She wore all red, to include, most critically, a red skirt. 

That was a horrible night, but for some reason I could take the bad news a little better.  :-)

Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief.  Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.

Big Mistake

I believe this outdoor stadium routine to be be another big mistake by Barry. It is too close to the newsreels we see from the 30's in a nation he recently visited. BTW , the entire Dim Convention has been so contrived, it is an insult to thinking people. For example, within seconds of Biden's talking about his family, even Affirmative Action Michelle whipped out a hanky and began to weep. How obvious, how sad. Just goes to show the contempt these phonys have for the people. And outside the buliding, on a public street, an ABC reporter was arrested by brown-shirted,...er, blue-shirted "police". All signs of things to come if Barry gets elected. Be afraid.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

I thought the worst moment

I thought the worst moment was the Hillary Calls For Unanimous Consent moment.  Even the FNC reporters were saying what a great moment it was, even though they had been reporting that she was going to do it as part of a deal with the Obama people for days.  That act was as spontaneous as the cheers of an old Soviet crowd.

ives...

Pray for lot's of rain in Denver tonight! 

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Recession

I still haven't heard the MSM recant all predictions and assertions that we are in a recession.  2d Qtr GDP has been adjusted UP.

The Temple Of Soros

There isn't anyway Obama can live up to all the hype for a speech tonight, but that won't stope the MSM from declaring it the greatest night ever and the presidential race to be over.  No one seems to care about the audacity of the whole unprededented event, moving from the arena to a football stadium and building a set.  Imagine if a Republican had done the same. Yes it looks like a Greek Temple alright, the Temple Of Soros!

The Annointing

Who has been designated to pour the vial of oil over the Chosen One's head? The Dems think he is "The One" then it needs to be done right. Too bad the prophet Samuel is not around to do it and then run like he did when he annointed King David.  

Keep praying for thunderstorms in Denver.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

quick explanation for rick

Obama = little David showing his potential

Hillary = Goliath defeated by a child

Bush = evil Saul gone off the deep end (the prophet Algore warned us he was not meant to be, but we ignored it)

Ted Kennedy = Samuel come to anoint the new king

McCain = Jonathan (natural heir of the throne too friendly with Obama for his own good)

something I don't understand

You know what really confuses me about lefties and Obama?

They go on all the time about Bush destroying the Constitution, hindering free speech, bullying his critics, blah blah.

But here we see Obama using a technicality to silence Harold Simmons, promoting the Fairness Doctrine, pushing net neutrality, and tacitly allowing people to attack conservies in Denver.

Why is no one worried about free speech under Obama?

Candance

See my post above. Now even ABC news is worried about "free speech". Our freedoms are in danger with this boy Barry. God forbid he gets elected.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

iveseenit--too

 If the arrest of that ABC news producer/cameraman had happened at the Reps. convention the msm would've went ballistic, but not hear, the dims or "for the people"LOL-LMAO-ROFL.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(GRINS)  kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Someone needs to throw a folding chair...

...during Obama-man's speech and watch him duck for cover. How many "AHs" are going to be in his speech tonight? We should wager on how many are used...I say 40. No way can the Obama-man outdo BJ Clinton...that crowd last night was on fire...no wonder young fat chicks and old battle hardened broads want him. If Obama-man gets the white chicks all hot & bothered, he's going to have a hard time winning over the white guys who see him as a threat. There's just no way for him to win...he's going to get his ass handed to him no matter how good he is...

Ubercon

It' always about the

It' always about the Clintons.  

But Bill delivered a great speech - until you actually listen to it....

Joe Biden, as foreign policy expert "stared down dictators"

I thought our country had enough of 'cowboy diplomacy'...how can the Dems lead with this tough guy stuff if we're all about 'just getting along".  Which foreign policy school will you guys be if you get to office:  The Rodney King school or the Marlboro Man school?

...And how do we rationalize what Bill Clinton said last night about wanting a nation that shows "the Power of Example" not an "Example of Power".  Sounds good, but isn't this 'stare down dictators' tough guy stuf just and 'Example of our Power?'  By the way, Joe, wasn't Saddam a brutal dictator?

...and who the heck is Clinton to lead with this statement anyway?  The power of his example....you have got to be kidding me!  President Stainmaster, torch bearer for the American ideal. 

...and Barack is older than i was when i took office [read: he has more experience than i had in 1992].  He may be older, but dude, you were a Governor..You at least had some executive experience, albeit from a small state.  This guy has virtually no experience and the experience he has he voted "Present". 

 

Obama slip of tongue or not!

Anyone else catch that Obama called Pres Clinton by name Pres Bush in his thank yous to BJC.  It went real quick, but he said, near the end, after doing allocades and thanks 3 or 4 times, "& thank you, Pres Bush".  Hope someone else caught this or was I dreaming!

Yes PawpawN

 Yeah, PawpawN, o-Dumb-uh almost thanked Pres. Bush but he caught himself just in time, o-Dumb-uh just aint so eloquent without his tele-prompter.

Arresting that ABC news producer/cameraman trying to film the dim bigwheels frolicking with the lobbyist should have people getting there heads outta there arse and wiping the dooky outta there eyes and ears and nose. The segment ABC did(follow the money) showed the dim rich, and dim bigwheels, setting in the plush skyboxes with open bar and free liquor and eats, compiments of the lobbyist, while the "sheep" on the floor were having to eat 7.00 hotdogs. I sure got a kick outta that, but them poor dumb b-tards oughtta wake up. I doubt the rest of the msm is even gonna  mention it, but the Reps. oughtta highlight it all they can.

o-Dumb-uhs greco-roman theater stage will backfire on him and i am lmao about it and i bet i'm not the only one.!! o-Dumb-uh better hope that telescoping stage does'nt suddenly collapse and fall cause the clintons are sure set to step in and take over if something un-toward should happen. It would sure make my back kinda itchy if i were o-Dumb-uh.!!!!

(GRINS)  kilrod

Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier

Obama & Mrs Biden swap spit

I made mention of the kiss last night when it happened.  As expected, It's getting some play on the Net today. 

Husband Joe looks on.

Torches & Pitchforks

I heard it too PawpawN....

I was in the NB chat room last night....we all heard it......another er, ah, er, er moment. 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Obama's speech tonight

Obama's speech tonight could be limited to "I like macaroni and cheese." and the pundits will be falling all over themselves in declaring it the greatest speech of all time and how eloquent he was.  "He was able to appeal to and embrace both the pasta and dairy components of the electorate with one statement.  I don't think I've every seen it done so well.  No one in the history of American politics has ever read from the printed page or a teleprompter with such feeling.  We seen the emergence of America's Seneca here tonight."  

And then Chris Matthews will go up in flame.  

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

Has the bar been raised too

Has the bar been raised too high? Heavens no. The time has come. (No matter your political leanings, you'll have to admit this is funny.)

The bar and it's height...

I hate to say it or even bring it up for discussion, but....

Could this nomination be 'affirmative action' gone completely insane? Is this what all the hoopla and the media frenzy is about? Barrack Obama really hasn't shown that he is capable of being even a good senator, let alone being the Chief Executive.

 

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

The bar height...

Has been lowered for the office of President. No longer do you have to demonstrate an ability to manage a crisis. Nor do you need to have any ability but to be presentable and dress well. You need no back ground. The character of those you call "friend" has no bearing on your character. All you need to do is claim your a great guy, (gal), and you deserve to be President.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

bass...

Scary, ain't it? 

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It's like I told my wife

You are going to hear nothing but gushing approval and love/lust for this man Obambi from the MSM for the next few days.  Hit the ball out of the park commentary will flow like diarrhea from Olberwuss's mouth. 

He will rise in the (skewed) polls and it will seem as if he is untouchable. 

Then he will open his mouth in three debates and that will seal the deal for McCain.

Obama the Emperor?

So, he has no clothes? 

LesserOf2evils '08

Obama's speech

The Obama campaign has released a promotional video to prepare us all for the Messiah's speech.

Joe Biden - "Borrowing" A Welsh Man's Identity

Ann Coulter's column

"Everyone acts as though Biden's outrageous plagiarism of British Labor Leader Neil Kinnock's speech during the 1988 presidential campaign was just a mistake, a slip of the tongue. Biden, his defenders say, had credited Kinnock in other speeches, but simply forgot to add the attribution one time."

http://townhall.com/Columnists/AnnCoulter/2008/08/27/joe_biden_hair_we_can_believe_in

Paul Greenberg's column

"It seems Lord Kinnock's rags-to-power story so entranced a younger Sen. Biden that he, uh, borrowed the Welshman's words (and whole speaking style) during his first bust of a presidential campaign in 1988."

http://townhall.com/Columnists/PaulGreenberg/2008/08/27/identity_theft_the_case_of_the_talented_mr_biden

 

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE, YOU MUST VIEW THIS VIDEO!!!

This is how absolutely ignorant the people who listen to the Environmentalists are.  It shows the utter decline of our education system as run by secular-humanist liberals for the last 80 years.

It would be funny if it wasn't so disturbing: Woman Amazed by Rainbow

 

Mattm, I believe that is

Mattm,

I believe that is Tipper Gore speaking in that video.

Matt

Let's face it. You can't fix stupid.  

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

WOW!!

That is just... hmm... I can't decide if it's more hilarious or more disturbing.

It's disturious.

Really puts the whole environmental movement in perspective, no?

And she votes!!!

I don't think Joe Biden was Obama's FIRST Choice...

I think some VP choice told Obama NO....maybe more than 1 person told him NO?
Biden ? Deleware ? 3 electorial votes ? C'mon..!!
On the Surface it looks Stupid...and now with Biden talking it Sounds STUPID !
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised

First choice

Yeah, it was McCain. But he was busy.

LesserOf2evils '08

Obama's speech tonight...

A lot of people have made fun of the stage set-up at the stadium as Greek like, and some have suggested Obama will be coming out in a Toga.

Although his rhetoric is going to be tear jerking, the message will be the same... Follow me,  follow me!  This type of speech with a Greek background, reminds me more of... This.  and this, and this, and this.

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I totally agree Clear.......

I mentioned yesterday this has all the trappings of "Triumph of the Will".....all they will need is the dark torch procession, and Leni Refenstahl to produce it.  This is really going to turn people off. 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

BEGRUNT...

They are counting on a following of people that know nothing of history. 

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Sad clear, isnt it?......

The lack of historical knowlege, will allow the rise of another "Chosen One"......and the rest is history. 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

Tonight...Toga Toga

Tonight...Toga Toga Toga!

....these are great pictures!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Great minds think alike. We

Great minds think alike. We posted at the same time. See above.  

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

TOGA

Did you read the comment "The part of the Minotaur will be played by Robert Reich"?

That's funny.

Torches & Pitchforks

Toga, Toga, Toga

It will be a real animal house in Denver tonight. By the way, the college football season begins tonight. At least there will be something good to watch besides the show at Mile High.  

HELL BARRUCH  or should that be hail?  

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

I think you're looking for

I think you're looking for "HEIL," rick.

Uh-oh, here come the crazies...

Oh, brother CT. Sad that

Oh, brother CT. Sad that this is real. That first one sounded almost rational until they blamed it all on the RNC.

Personally, I noticed how during the approach of Fay that our local meteorologists seemed to be first excited by the prospect and then disappointed when Fay didn't turn into a Cat 1 hurricane.

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