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For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Colin Powell as McCain's VP?

Retired Gen. Colin Powell is among the potential running mates who have been considered by John McCain, campaign advisers told Politico. Powell was among the possible vice presidential choices the Arizona Republican senator was thinking of when he said he would not rule out a supporter of abortion rights, a key adviser said. Powell, who was President Bush's first secretary of state, would add celebrity to the ticket, as well as reinforce McCain's strength as a potential commander in chief, which his campaign considers to be one of his chief assets.

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Powell is ok and better than Ridge

Ridge is like a pro-choice McCain lite. Powell is better than Ridge but McCain is lacking economic experience which is why I prefer Romney. Though personally I could vote for them over Obama, but McCain really needs to back away from Amnesty and Carbon regulations if he wants to be taken seriously. There would be no contest on which team would have better foreign policy experience.

Powell has a few issues other than Abortion though.

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I agree with you Poptech - I prefer Romney but don't mind Powell

I said in another post that I could end up not voting for McCain if he picked a pro-choice candidate but Powell would be an exception.

Powell is a very liberal Republican but he's an honest principled and decent one. He didn't go around trashing Bush even though he disagreed with him. If Powell ends up endorsing Obama though, my opinion of him will completely change.

I wouldn't really like a Powell pick but I'd understand it. It would take the race card off the table. I wish that Powell was a registered Independent like Leiberman because then a ticket with either of those two would show that there really isn't a Republican in the race and we are just voting for the most conservative option available.

Umm...

Dare I say...brilliant?

One thing that I have said fervently since March 2003, is that we should have sent in about 150,000 troops to begin with.  We needed to just completely overwhelm and take over Iraq.  Instead we went with an economic force that was capable of "doing the job", but was not capable, in numbers, to act as security for all of Iraq.  We simply did not have enough feet on the ground to guard all of the weapons caches, the banks, the cities...Powell forsaw all of those problems and was insistent on sending more troops from the original planning and execution of the war. 

A McCain-Powell ticket might be strong.  As in, Barry H.O. and Joe B. better start shaking in their boots.  This isn't going to be like a rock concert in Berlin.  This is America.  Good b.s. and a smile only go so far...a b.j. for former prez clinton...and it appears almost the White House for baracka H. obama, jr.  But I think that Americans will see through this, and I believe that, especially in light of the amazing progress in Iraq, they'll realize that the only choice they have is really the progressive choice, in John McCain. 

Barack Obama talks a lot about being beyond politics, but in almost every way, he's a politician as usual.  At least John McCain has a plan to go forward; Barack's plan is first about surrendering in Iraq, and then submitting to Iran, then to China, then to Russia, and so forth. 

Whatever, it's past my bedtime.  I think that McCain-Powell might be kick as*.  I love my country...I want leaders that do too.  Is that so much to ask?

The abortion rights thing

The abortion rights thing bothers me a little, but since I argue it from a point of state's rights, it doen't lead the list.

I would have to go over Powell's comments regarding the war in Iraq, as well as where he stands on ecomonic issues, but at first blush, he seems like a good choice.

"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Obama timing

DENVER (AP) - Joe Biden got the call from Barack Obama while undergoing a root canal.

 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D92O9FFG2&show_article=1&catnum=0

Too funny. You really can’t make this stuff up.

 

If you can't remember . . . the claymore is probably pointed at you.   Murphy's Laws of Combat

That's kind of an

That's kind of an interesting point, and makes good copy LOL.

But you have to wonder where this will stop with the MSM: Will they next report who was in the room with Obama when he made the call? Was he standing or sitting at his desk? Or relaxing on the sofa?

...will we next have a report of what Obama was wearing when he made the call?

Root Canal

I read and heard that it was his wife who was undergoing a root canal when Oduma called. Actually, I like your version better.

I think...

...before McCain considers Powell, Powell has to consider McCain.  He famously hasn't.

Powell No Way

He was a terrible Secretary State, he is a back stabber, and if his own image might be at stake, you can't trust his loyalty. He reached his Peter Principle point as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He brings nothing to the ticket, except to balance the race thing and that is a terrible reason.

Besides, even though I believe abortion to be a state issue and the Feds should stay out of it, Obama's extreme position and promise to overturn all pro-life provisions as soon as elected, means McCain would be crazy to give away this issue by choosing an abortion supporter as running mate.

He needs Romney who can help him sweep the West as well as Michigan, Florida and a some of the New England states. And he needs his economic gravitas. 

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Traditional Marriage is not "Divisive" Obama.

GOP VP

If demographics were everything, Powell would be great. But then, if demographics were everything, Condi Rice would be better. (Of course, either one would demolish Biden.) I like Powell, but I have to admit, he was very wrong on the surge. He thought it was a loser. Rice's problem is that she is completely associated with Bush. At least Powell could argue that he wasn't a proponent of the Bush foreign policy - which he occasionally proved as Secretary of State. Then again, as Fareed Zakaria wrote, there are a lot of things that the Bush crowd got right. Bush's foreign policy, after 2006, has been pretty solid. I think Robert Gates has been a superb defense secretary. Still, just to cut through the media ack-ack, it may be too much an uphill climb for Rice, and McCain doesn't need to make it any harder for himself.

Right now, we have three nominations in the bag. All three are senators. All three are wildly in love with themselves. I'm begging McCain not to throw in another. Please don't pick another senator. We want a campaign, or at least a fun debate. With four senators, we'd get two months of Meet the Press and C-Span. Spare us, please.

Now Colin Powell. OMG can we

Now Colin Powell. OMG can we just pick the guy that will be running.

I expect the Pillsbury dough boy next.

Its like the old Uncle that keeps waving your birthday gift in front of you but not giving it to you. (What? none of you had an Uncle like that??)

 

It does not peak our curiosity, it pisses us off.

 

Knowing “The Maverick”, I’m sure I will get a finger in the eye soon.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

In strictly political view,

In strictly political view, Powell does not make sense. What state can he help with? The black vote will go to Obama, his back ground in the military is already covered by Mc Cain. I see no advantage.

 

I think the idiots in the Mc Cain’s campaign have too much time on their hands.

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

That's just crazy talk.

That's just crazy talk. Everybody knows the Pillsbury dough boy is too white. And doughy.

And extremely pokeable....

 

Powell didn't want to run

Powell didn't want to run for President because of the rigors of the campaign and his wife's fears. What makes anyone think that has changed now?

As for what he brings to the ticket, I say it's the entertainment of watching Al Sharpton's head explode (I originally said Jackson, but he's SO over!) as he tries to explain why Barack Obama is a genuine Black, but Powell is an Uncle Tom.

In A Word . . .

. . . No.

It's possible, but

Didn't I see a Fox News talking head (I forget which) saying Powell was about to endorse Obama a couple of weeks ago? It never happened, of course, but combined with McCain's new ad quoting Biden about himself, I'm struck by how various prominent members of the 2 "major" parties are now, in effect, admitting that Libertarians have been right all along regarding all our "not a dime's worth of difference" rants over the decades...
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

They did report that, but

They did report that, but then there was a print story, I forget where that said he didn't intend to endorse anyone, and wouldn't even say who he would vote for.

If it was anyone but Powell, I would be thinking "Way to keep all your options open") but I really don't think he is that type.

Terrible idea.  I don't

Terrible idea.

 I don't think McCain can win with a pro-abortion running mate. Furthermore, Powell, Ridge, Lieberman, Guiliani, etc. are liberal on a number of other things anyway. Powell is bad on gun control, homosexuality, affirmative action, and opposed the nomination of John Bolton. I also have seen him as a back stabber and disappointment time and time again, like that poster above pointed out.

All he really adds to the ticket is his military credentials. But McCain needs no boosting there. And also as that poster said, to pick Powell because he's black is terrible. Let's let the Dems be the ones to keep playing race. Let's follow Martin Luther King's principle of judging a man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. It's racist to vote against or FOR someone because of their skin color.

McCain has been on shaky ground with us before. But he's largely been achieving our support with a mostly conservative campaign (as well as benefiting from an opponent who is so hideous in his views, inexperience, incomptence, and frightening asscociations [eg. Wright, Rezko, Ayers]). As Mark Levin keeps saying, McCain has my vote as long as he doesn't do something stupid like spit in the face of conservatives by picking a liberal or moderate running mate.

Colin Powell? NO WAY!!!! (But thankfully I see a zero percent chance of that happening).

This just proves that you

This just proves that you can't even trust party labels; you have to look at their actions.

Michael Bloomberg calls himself a Republican, but that was only to get on the ballot in NYC.

Powell calls himself a Republican; darned if I know why.

I agree with you, but I think McCain is on the verge of thinking that conservatives are now back in his camp, so he can do more of his famous "reaching out" act.

One word, Sen. McCain: Don't.

Two words to add to your word, mb

Don't you dare! 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

MB - I'm not sure why Powell calls himself Republican either

but it's not the same as Bloomberg who did it just to get elected. I don't agree with Powell's politics but I have respect for him. He doesn't demonize Republican positions even when he disagrees with them.

A Powell pick would not be good in my opinion, but it wouldn't make me not vote for McCain like most other pro abortion picks possibly would.

I have to say that the Democrat shenanigans, double talk, and demonization (especially by their supposed "moderates" like Obama and Biden) have made me appreciate people like McCain and Powell more.

McCain and Powell are both patriots who have true honor and wouldn't intentionally screw people over. Powell proved it by continuing to say nice things about Bush and not capitalizing on his differences of opinions and McCain proved it by turning down preferential release over fellow prisoners who had been their longer. Powell could have made much more money and McCain could have avoided more years of torture.

What selfless sacrifices have Biden or Obama made? Those two are as phony as they come.

Good morning, Dee

Nice post.  I could live with Powell (but he won't do it, for all of the reasons with which we are familiar), but again, I'd hate to see the party drug further to the center.  McCain needs to really acknowledge conservatives with his pick.

Did you see this a.m. that there are going to be protests in Denver next week to try to "drag the party leftward"?

I almost choked!  I mean, how much further left could it be, with the #1 and #3 most liberal Senators on their ticket? 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Hi Blonde - that is a good way to put it "could live with it"

I'm just living with McCain anyway. It's going to be his policies that rule.

After that Saddleback debate, I'm realizing that I could live with a lot more because there was still such a stark contrast between the two on National Security, Abortion and taxes and those are my three most important issues for federal Government.

Two Words

Mitt Romney

Colin Powell was supposedly

Colin Powell was supposedly going to endorse Obama. Not a very good place to get a VP candidate. I detest Colon Powell. The only reason he would even be considered is his race. I don't care if the Democrates are racists and decide their candidate based on race but I don't want my party doing that. Colin Powell is the biggest liberal in the party. He said the GOP doesn't do enough to get the black vote. What people mean when they say that is the the party doesn't pander enough. We need to promise a big fat goody bag full of new entitlements. He is Mr. Compasionate Conservative. If we are going to pick our VP based on race why not Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell? I'd pay a lot of money to see Walter Williams in a debate with Biden.

   Well, now that obama

   Well, now that obama has chosen his own version of John McCain, if McCain chooses a person of color this race will just get weirder and weirder.

Mid, Good point, this whole

Mid,

Good point, this whole race is starting to look like the cantina scene in Star Wars..

We have a Black Marxist, with white Grandparents, with a father from Africa, with half brothers living seeming like, all over the world including a shack. Hooked up with John Mc Cain’s old pal, that likes black men that are articulate and clean.

We have John (I want to be a Democrat) Mc Cain, looking for another RINO to run with, “to bring the party together.. and win the election..

Meanwhile back in Denver you have the lunatics protesting that the Democrats are not.. left.. enough..

I think my head is going to explode..  

 

 

Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.

Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.

 

Romney

It has to be Romney to attract conservatives. Like I told a friend, mormonism is only an issue for the top job.

If McCain wants the estrogen based voters, who are mad over Hillary's loss, a women would be good for his ticket. However, I think it would remind people of Mondale's pandering VP pick and could backfire on wandering John.

Crash

I am a conservative Christian. Even though I disagree with Morons on a lot of their doctrine and practices, they are deeply family oriented and have strong morals. I have no probelm with Romney. As long as he don't advocate killing innocent babies or allowing my sister to marry the Olsen twins and their dog, he is alright with me.

I do have a problem with a man that is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Obama is a Muslim at heart. I don't care how many years he went to a Christian church. Judas followed Jesus for about 3 years and never converted. The MSM or the Dems are not going to make me see any different.  

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

ricklail: Better edit your

ricklail: Better edit your comment - unless you purposely misspelled Mormons. ;) I know it's rude to correct someone's spelling or grammer. But in this case I think you'd agree that a correction is in order.

P.S. I believe the the idea that Romney's faith is a major issue is nothing more than a figment of the MsM's imagination.

Thanks

I can't get back to edit it. I am glad that you caught it. There is no way that I would use that word for Mormons. It applies to Liberal Progressive Democrats.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

I approve this _essage.

'Cept for the missing M.

As for Barack Hussein Obama being Muslim. I can only speculate on what man truly believes. A belief is a vaguely held notion and a heart is a hard thing to know. Based I everything he claims to stand for - before polling data comes back - I think he is a marxist who wants the USA to lower our standards to fit in with the rest of the world; therefor, I also believe him to be unpatriotic. I doubt Barack could ever say, "America is number one, or the best country on earth." 

I would have voted for Powell in 2000

His integrity, experience, charisma, wisdom and executive experience will make him an ideal President, and an ideal compliment to John McCain as VP.

The reality of the abortion issue in the US is that the two sides are talking past each other. Everyone agrees that abortion is always a terrible decision, but while the "right to life" movement considers an embrio of any age to have non-negotiable rights as a human being, the "pro choice" movement considers the rights of a woman to control her own body to be non-negotiable. It would be far more beneficial to society if both sides were to focus on reducing the number of abortions through education and birth control. I believe that's the kind of pragmatic thinking that General Powell would bring to the dialog.

More on the Pelosi Politburo

If this doesn't make you furious, I don't know what will. 

She is "enforcing" rules in the House, removing Rep Walter Jones' (R - N.C.) tribute to fallen soldiers outside of his House office.

The woman's arrogance knows no bounds.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde

I saw this story about 2 weeks ago in our local paper. If you are going to read a story from the online editon of the New Bern Sun Journal you have to have a paid subscription so I was not able to link to it. I am glad that you posted this. I have alot of issues with Jones but as long as he supports our men and women now serving and our vets, I can get over them. People don't realize that he has 3 major military installations in his district,- Cherry Point Marine Corps Air Station, Camp Lejeune and Seymour Johnson Air Force Base.  

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

rick

Did you see that the link was to a SF paper?  I originally found this over at Blackfive.  Great site.

I understand Rep. Jones blows a bit hot and cold concerning the WOT.

Having said that, though, Nanny Pelosi deserves to be flogged, tarred, and feathered.   

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

I did notice the link took

I did notice the link took you to SF Gate. That was surprising.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

I like Powell and Michael

I like Powell and Michael Steele and Condi Rice. I know Powell and Rice are pro choice, not sure about Steele.  I would like to see some color for a vp pick. These are all strong smart and great black people.

mom

Powell for VP

At first glance one would say, "Wow a war hero and former sec.of state and joint chief of staff". Look a little deeper and you get, "Oops, I should have looked at the intelligence a little better before going over to the UN and telling everyone about WMD." Oops, I should have told someone about Richard Armitage vomiting all over Valerie Plame when he admitted his crime to me".

He should stay in the private sector and do some charitable works. He is a great man and great public servant, but with a little too much history with the former admin. He commands great respect and is too big a figure to be VP for any ticket. 

 

 

What a Team: John McCain, Colin Powell and Richard Armitage

Perfect choice. Powell can then bring along his close associate and second-in-command at the State Department Richard Armitage. Remember Richard Armitage? He was the person who first disclosed Valerie Plame's identity to Robert Novak.

NewsBusters noted Karl Rove’s complaint on The O'Reilly Factor: "Imagine what would have happened if Richard Armitage had come forward and said, 'You know what? I did it. I talked to Robert Novak and gave her the background and gave her the name.' And this would have all gone away. You'll notice when it came out that Richard Armitage was the source of the leak, the media rapidly lost attention."

The Wall Street Journal wrote at the time: “Meanwhile, according to the Corn-Isikoff book, Mr. Armitage never did tell the White House or his boss, the President, that he was the leaker. Instead, in October 2003 he told Mr. Powell, who told the State Department general counsel, who in turn told the Justice Department but gave the White House Counsel only the sketchiest overview of what he'd learned and didn't mention Mr. Armitage's name. So while Mr. Fitzgerald presumably knew when he began his probe two months later that Mr. Armitage was Mr. Novak's source, the President himself was apparently kept in the dark, even as he was pledging publicly to find out who the leaker was.

At a minimum, there appears to be a serious question of disloyalty here. By keeping silent, Messrs. Powell and Armitage let the President take political heat for the case, while also letting Mr. Rove, Mr. Libby and other White House officials twist in the wind for more than two years. We also know that it was the folks in Mr. Powell's shop--including his former chief of staff Lawrence Wilkerson and intelligence officer Carl Ford Jr.--who did so much to trash John Bolton's nomination to be Ambassador to the U.N. in 2005. The State Department clique that Mr. Bush tolerated for so long did tremendous damage to his Administration."

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"If the Republicans can subtly portray Obama as an affirmative-action nominee, McCain could well be our next President.” ~ Jeremy Mayer, NY Daily News

Sarah Palin

 Is there any doubt? A young, attractive, conservative governor and pro-life.  oh yeah, and she's a woman if that really matters.  Sarah Palin.

Oppose Obamunism-Elect a Conservative Congress in '08

I second the

I second the motion!! 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

NO!!!

NO!!!

We need to develop the "farm system". If she wins another election as governor in AK, I am willing to bet there will be much noise made about her, and she can position herself to win a bit higher office than the Vice-Presidency... :-)

 

The problem I see with

The problem I see with Powell is that he held a Cabinet post in the Bush administration. Although he may have disagreed with Bush on certain issues, I don't think the average American is necessarily aware of this aspect of Powell's tenure. Putting him on the ticket gives the Obama campaign the opportunity to use Powell against McCain. McCain needs to distance himself as much as possible from the assumption that his administration would amount to nothing more than a third Bush term. Besides, I don't see that McCain necessarily needs someone with Powell's military and foreign policy chops. I feel that McCain is pretty strong in these areas. Romney makes more sense for the VP nod.

On the fence

Colin Powell as a VP choice would blunt attempts at charges of racism but would not split the Black vote. However, I am not sure of Powell as campaigner and not sure how loyal he would be to McCain.

Another game changer could be Sarah Palin or Kay Bailey Hutchinson who could deliver significant numbers of Hillary supporters who are permamently upset with Obama by showing incredible disrespect to her by not even making an attempt of vetting her.

 

I would hope that McCain

I would hope that McCain would choose his running mate based on experience and what that person could bring to the ticket in the way of balancing McCain's weaknesses in the areas of the economy and enviromentalism. I would be very disappointed if he were to simply make this an affirmative action choice for the sake of playing gotcha with the Obama campaign.

Do two RINOs on the same ticket add up to a whole conservative?

In the case of these two, not even close.

-Dave.

NObamaMcCain in '08!

Only if...

You practice liberal math, Dave.

Like Chrissy, et. al. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

A 'third' Bush term?

A 'third' Bush term?

I'm sorta tired of this canard.

Why should McCain distance himself from Bush?  He isn't Bush and Bush ain't running for anything.

Bush won twice.  In the face of the MSM's infatuation with Kerry; in the face of the accepted 'herd' mentality that Kerry was the cat's meow regarding foreign policy and domestic issues; in the face of the silliness of the uproar over the Swift Boat veterans simply telling factually what Kerry was really about; Bush won.

Now, the accepted wisdom of our pundants is that everything Bush is bad.

By November, we will have a negotiated status of forces agreement with Iraq; we will have weathered the worst of the Oil mess; we will have more troops in Afghanistan; we will have not been attacked for nearly eight years; we will see that even though inflation is higher the economy still can't bring itself to enter a recession; and finally we will see that the public has re-evaluated Bush and forgiven him his sins.

What were Bush's sins?

He is prone to poor choices of words and how they are pronounced.

He goofed up in Iraq through Rumsfield who was fighting too many internal battles to overcome the hatred his new restructuring of the military brought.

The economy is flat.  This cannot really be laid at his door, and more government involvement in the free market will not fix it.

The Liberals want everyone to think Bush is stupid.

Check this out.

Jimmy Carter rode the anti-Washington sentiment of Watergate and Ford into the White House as an agent of change.

That's right.  An outsider brought into the government under similar circumstance to change things.

Well, due to his ignorance of things we got the change under Carter we deserved.

We will get the same under Obama if we fall for this again.

ACA

 

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I saw one of the kooks on

I saw one of the kooks on MSNBC this morning. He brought up the Bush 3rd term. We might as well get used to it. They have nothing to offer so they will continue this line.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

Unforch, the MsM is seeing

Unforch, the MsM is seeing to it that the past two years of the Bush administration are seen as the cause of all that is wrong in America. The political dynamics were much different in 2004 and Kerry was a much weaker candidate by the time of the general election. And according to what I've heard from Dems who are calling in to conservative talk radio, many would vote for Daffy Duck if he were the Democrat candidate for POTUS. The average American Dem in my neck of the woods also expresses the opinion that any Dem would be better than a Republican in the White House. Time will tell if McCain can overcome this perception and if Obama continues to lose his luster.

Hey aca.... Great to see

Hey aca....

Great to see you here...long time no see...

By the way...I agree with the four more years of Bush BS...it is getting very old...if I were him I would have a news conference and thank the msm/leftist political operatives for their endorsement.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Right back atcha BT

Right back atcha BT

Aw shucks, ACA

 Aw shucks, ACA

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Z

Powel, a lingering disaster.

1) His handling of Desert Storm gave us Iraq II

2) His addition of WMD in the Presidental address (16 words)gave us "Bush Lied, People Died" 

3) His cowardness of the Plume affair still reeks.

4) He has demonstarted NO competence in anything

 

The obvious choice for VP is Gov Romeny because he did so well in his campaign. 

Z

Powel, a lingering disaster.

1) His handling of Desert Storm gave us Iraq II

2) His addition of WMD in the Presidental address (16 words)gave us "Bush Lied, People Died" 

3) His cowardness of the Plume affair still reeks.

4) He has demonstarted NO competence in anything

 

The obvious choice for VP is Gov Romeny because he did so well in his campaign. 

Colin Powell? I came, I saw, I yawned!

Colin Powell is a phony wimp who was a disaster zone as SecState.  Of course, I'm not surprised he's on McCain's short list if Lieberman is also being considered.  Hell, Ted Kennedy is probably also on the McCain's short list.

I hope that Romney doesn't accept the VP position if asked.  He has 4 years to strengthen his conservative position but would be painted by McCain's liberal brush if he accepts.

Jeff Lebowski

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If he picks Powell...I

If he picks Powell...I won't vote for him, but I most likely won't anyway unless he picks a real conservative...I'm in the minority and don't care.

Powell, Armitage, and yes McCain, along with some others like Warner in the Senate all worked together as far as I am concerned to hurt President Bush and others during this war in various ways, I am not going to go through all of it again as I have posted as such over the years.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

ive read every post..

and although im a bigger Romney fan over Powell...it would be interesting what the media would do if it is Powell.  Abortion, gay marriage, tax cuts...yahdahyahdahyahdah..this year is all about the MSM, so if it is Powell..the MSM is gonna wind up tongue tied, and they're not gonna know what to do. It would/will be funny to watch.

The Gaffestakes

Have you seen the front page of www.gop.com ? Some clever bastard over there put up a running clock counting the time till Chief Little Big Gaffe decides to throw in some ad libs or, more likely, opens up in the comfort of the liberal media and tells us how he really feels.

So how long can he go entirely scripted? I give him 3 weeks, max.

 

 

The fact that McCain is even considering Powell...

...is a clear indication of the direction he intends to take the Republican Party (which I now consider to be centrist at best) once he is elected POTUS.

It is a direction no real conservative is going to want to go.

-Dave.

No Weekend Sports Thread?

Cheers to the Little League team from Waipahu, Hawaii, who staged the mother of all comebacks Saturday to come back from a 5-1 deficit in their final at bat to score 6 runs and win the US National Championship, 7-5, over Lake Charles LA.

They are now playing Mexico in the World Championship, and are up 1-0 in the top of the 1st inning.

Was a great comeback, tough

Was a great comeback, tough luck for our boys from LA.

5to3 right now in the 4th, Hawaii 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Both Good Teams

I've always liked Lake Charles, as I was a longtime fan of LC native/music legend Boozoo Chavis, who died a few years back.

But I have to cheer for Hawaii because I played Little League ball there when I was a kid.

Now 11-3 Hawaii in the 5th.

Waipahu Wins

12-3

Wow

Hawaii played great. Those kids can field and get timely hits 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Finally, a U.S. Navy

Finally, a U.S. Navy Warship Arrives in Georgia Carrying Aid and even better, the ship carries Tomahawk cruise missles . . .

But I liked Blonde's idea better. Let's have US Air Force A-10's over in Georgia for "Joint Manuevers".

 

"They're both doofuses!" --Mark Levin (speaking of Obama and McCain)

Colin Powell

A pro-abortionist is a pro-abortionist, be it Ridge or Powell.

Powel is a let's not win in Iraq as well. He is a liberal by any definition of the  word and would not get 25 black votes running against the Messiah.

 

True,

I agree, wonder what Condi Rice would do for the ticket though? 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Simple Answer

She'll be smeared by the Left as an "Aunt Jemima"; many on the Left have been doing that to her for years.

Powell?

A non starter for me!

John McCain's veep pick

What if the maverick were to pick....

 

 

Wait for it....

 

 

 

 

 

H!llary?

 

 

 

JN.... LMAO...well now,

JN....

LMAO...well now, he does have all the respect for her in the world after-all...

...that would be a riot.

I can just hear it now...from both sides of the aisle but mainly the msm would drop over dead.

Oh the scenario is too delicious to contemplate. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

BT, I've been giggling about this

 I dont know where I read about it, but somewhere, someone, brought the big idea up. I just rolled!

How could this election get any more fouled up than it has allready?  A joke I tell ya!

Powell? No way!

He brings nothing to the ticket, and would be a blatant attempt to pander to the race-baiters, one that wouldn't work.

I think Romney is probably the best choice that springs to mind. Maybe they're vetting some less-visible prospects, but of those I've heard mentioned, Romney is the best choice.

Powell

NO NO NO! All this yak about Mac being a RINO, what the heck do you all think Powell is?? RINO, RINO, RINO. Backstabber too and unstable about the war and surge. He would add nothing, all the black are voting for Oduma anyway.

Precious metals market manipulation proven

Again, by Ted Butler singlehandedly, as the "watchdog" financial media (HA!) yawns and the CFTC dozes. A relevant excerpt:

These
facts speak for themselves. Here are the facts. As of July 1, 2008, two
U.S. banks were short 6,199 contracts of COMEX silver (30,995,000
ounces). As of August 5, 2008, two U.S. banks were short 33,805
contracts of COMEX silver (169,025,000 ounces), an increase of more
than five-fold. This is the largest such position by U.S. banks I can
find in the data, ever. Between July 14 and August 15th, the price of COMEX silver declined from a peak high of $19.55 (basis September) to a low of $12.22 for a decline of 38%.

For
gold, 3 U.S. banks held a short position of 7,787 contracts (778,700
ounces) in July, and 3 U.S. banks held a short position of 86,398
contracts (8,639,800 ounces) in August, an eleven-fold increase and
coinciding with a gold price decline of more than $150 per ounce. As
was the case with silver, this is the largest short position ever by US
banks in the data listed on the CFTC’s site. This was put on as one
massive position just before the market collapsed in price.

This
data suggests other questions should be answered by banking regulators,
the CFTC, or by those analysts who still doubt this market is rigged.
Is there a connection between 2 U.S. banks selling an additional 27,606
silver futures contracts (138 million ounces) in a month, followed
shortly thereafter by a severe decline in the price of silver? That’s
equal to 20% of annual world mine production or the entire COMEX
warehouse stockpile, the second largest inventory in the world. How
could the concentrated sale of such quantities in such a short time not
influence the price?

Is
there a connection between 3 U.S. banks selling an additional 78,611
gold futures contracts (7,861,100 ounces) in a month, followed shortly
by a severe price decline in gold? That’s equal to 10% of annual world
production and amounts to more than $7 billion worth of gold futures
being sold by 3 U.S. banks in a month. How can this extraordinary
concentrated trading size not be manipulative?


but read the whole thing. Taxpayers are likely to be on the hook for this one once a bailout becomes 'needed,' while "gold bug" types scream "I told you so!" Sigh.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

The WaPo covered the same thing in oil markets

Which, while extreme, has concentrations which are not as extreme as those found in precious metal naked shorts.
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

barf

Choosing Powell would be tantamount to choosing Leibermann. McCain is the moderate on the ticket, he needs a strong conservative to balance it out. The liberal Powell would demoralize the base.

Hmmm..

One would think that he know's that.

However, if he did do that, that confirms that the GOP is trying to out-liberal liberals in the belief that, according to the MSM, most Americans view liberalism favorably.

Or maybe it's as sinister as a GOP/DNC collaboration where they're taking turns running the Whitehouse???

Muh-Ha-Ha-Ha...!