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For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: California might probe Schumer's role in IndyMac bank failure.

California's attorney general is reviewing a request by former employees of IndyMac Bancorp Inc to investigate whether a New York senator triggered the bank's collapse by releasing confidential information. At issue is a much-publicized letter that Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, sent in June to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) and Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS) questioning the company's ability to survive. The FDIC took control of IndyMac on July 11 after depositors withdrew more than $1.3 billion over 11 days...At the time, OTS Director John Reich blamed Schumer's letter for causing the run on the bank. In a letter to Attorney General Jerry Brown last week, 51 former IndyMac workers wrote: "From the day (Schumer's) letter was made public on June 26 until the closure of the bank, a run on the bank took place and the failure became inevitable."

Will Democrat Brown investigate Democrat Schumer? Will media report this if he does, especially as Schumer is scheduled to speak at next week's convention?

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RIP Gene Upshaw

One of the greatest Raiders ever has passed on. He was the only player to play in  3 Superbowls in three decades

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Upshaw

Had a lot to do with grandfathering the old timers into the benefits package too, I think.

Players Union President, wasn't he?

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Yeah Cool

I heard he was also very unpopular with some people because of his policies regarding benefits.

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Their is only a paltry

Their is only a paltry pension for the players that made the league what it is today. Before the salaries went through the roof. Considering how much $ the NFL makes this is pitiful.  

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

This news was definitely a

This news was definitely a bummer. The Steelers/raiders rivalry of the 1970's were pretty fierce. The Steelers knocked Oakland out in 2 AFC champ games in the 70's, and Upshaw was a beast!

Think about these two teams in the 70's-80's: they won 7 Super Bowls between 75-84.

Rest in peace, Gene.

I suspend my Raiduh hatred for a moment.

I HATE the Raiduhs, but I have to tip my hat to Gene Upshaw today.

The man only learned of his pancreatic cancer on Sunday!  Scary. 

The Olympics are now under way in Beijing.  May the people of Beijing get thoroughly sick of hearing The Star Spangled Banner.  May the Beijing Olympic Committee run out of U.S. flags for the medal ceremonies!  USA!  USA!!  USA!!!

Something different

Re: Shumer, I sincerely hope they pin the tail on that donkey...but I doubt it.

Here's an interesting article from my local paper...Dara Torres has returned home and is "resuming her life".  Her Olympic adventure has now made her a multi-millionaire

Before the trials, Torres was getting between $7,500 and $10,000 for speaking engagements. Now she commands between $30,000 and $45,000 "and they are not batting an eyelash," he said.

Torres signed a $3 million, two-book deal with Broadway Books and Random House. Her first book, a memoir, is set to be released on Mother's Day. The other is a health, fitness and lifestyle book slated for 2011. A national book tour is planned.

This is all well and good, (better than the Clinton's, for sure)....but my question is this:  If there's a big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for these atheletes, does that negate the striving for the love of the sport?  Or will young Olympians now have dollar signs in their eyes as do the college football & basketball players, viewing their "amateur" careers as nothing more than stepping stones to the big bucks?

And does this help or hurt sports?

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

It will always take tons of

It will always take tons of hard work and heart to compeat at an Olympic level, so I do not think it affects anything but the ticket prices. The athletes young and current will always be athletes first. 

 

 

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

From the interviews I've

From the interviews I've seen in regard to Torres, I don't get the feeling that she was "in it" for the cash.

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

Blonde, I'm with them. With

Blonde, I'm with them. With all the hard work and dedication that it takes to reach that level, coupled with the relative "crap shoot" to actually make the Olpympics and succeed, I don't think athletes can approach the competition with dollar signs in their eyes.

And considering the amount of work involved, I think they deserve to cash in on it as much as they can when it's over.

Swimmers, like Torres, and lots of other Olympic sport athletes, don't really have a "professional" venue in which to showcase their skills as a way to "riches" like basketball players do.

Well, all

You all are obviously thinking the same way I was...I think Dana Torres is terrific, and I'm glad she achieved what she did!

But that article just kind of sparked my thought process, and particularly in light of NBA & NFL scouting. 

Stray thoughts on a rainy day (still affected somewhat by Faye....the storm that apparently will never go away). 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Passion, passion, passion

I worry not.  Especially in the Olympics, the althletes that populate the upper echelons do so not just because of unique physical abilities but because of passion.  Michael Phelps may have had a natural gift for being a fish in water, but ultimately he exploited this due to his passion for swimming. 

I truly believe that just on the basis of the commitment required to even compete for the possibility of playing in the Olympics, the passion will always come first.  You must have passion for that particular even to toil in near total obscurity for many years for the very real possibility that you won't even medal in the Olympics or even go when the time comes. 

The Olympics are now under way in Beijing.  May the people of Beijing get thoroughly sick of hearing The Star Spangled Banner.  May the Beijing Olympic Committee run out of U.S. flags for the medal ceremonies!  USA!  USA!!  USA!!!

Schumer

"Boilerplate Schumer" was just trying to tip over some dominoes to prepare the way for the Obamanog.

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Cool

You called him Boilerplate? May I ask why? I have always known him as "Fruit Loop" ever since he took on the cereal industry.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

Boilerplate

Boilerplate is a term that applies to firms or individuals that float false rumors on stocks to influence the price.

That, in my view, is what Chuckie did to IndyMac.

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CA

CA,

I've never heard that reference in 28 years of involvement in the securities industry. Boilerplate to me has always meant "any text that is or can be reused in new contexts or applications without being changed much from the original."

My company does legal estate planning, amongst other things. As such, one could label our documents as "boilerplate" because they're created from a computer program and, therefore, they're basically the same from one client to the next. Make sense? ns

Noel

I've heard both "boiler room" and "boilerplate" in reference to groups that hype trash stocks.

I think there was a movie by one of those names.

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Spot On!

"If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!"

Spot on!

Dingy Harry can't stand John McCain?

Once again, another demoncrat can't address the issues so he/she has to lower themselves to character assasination.

Enter Dingy Harry Reid: http://www.lvrj.com/news/27217924.html

This is just further evidence that the more the Demoncrats lose their edge on this election, the more desperate they become by making jackass comments like this.

What a freakin' hypocrite! Of course, the Dingy One is absolutely loved by all who know him, right?

"I think we're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre

Dingy Harry is not as well

Dingy Harry is not as well liked as he would like to think he is. He helped sponsor an energy summit in Las Vegas held over the past couple of days. Reid made a speech that included the words "drill for oil" and some of his kooky Ecofascist base are pissed.

Evidently, he never got the memo that drilling is "EVIL"! Hehehe... 

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Interesting gt

Wonder if Dingy Harry has ever been ridiculed and/or shunned for his core beliefs.

Obviously he's sold out those too.

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Cool Arrow, About the Dingy One...

You can't be ridiculed or shunned for your core beliefs when you don't have any!

"I think we're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre

Harry Reid Core beliefs

But I'd bet he's caught some flak in his life over his religion.

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I have a new #1 reason why

I have a new #1 reason why I'm voting for John McCain. 

*****

"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will 

Obama's reaction to the

Obama's reaction to the Schumer story:

That's not the Chuck Schumer I knew. And this is just a distraction by the Republicans because they are bereft of ideas on the important issues facing Americans every day.

Yeah, I made it up, but doesn't at least the second part of it sound likely?

Didn't he also call Schumer

Didn't he also call Schumer 'clean'? 

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Obama VP ???

Colin Powell

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

And now, today's Shrub

And now, today's Shrub Report®:

Mr. Trotsky, most people do not survive an ice-pick to the head.

The candidates finally agree on a debate schedule.

Paybacks are a bitch.

McCain doesn't know what he's up against!

Today's Global Warming Update. Is it just this shrubber, or are the majority of Global Warming Retard stories coming out of Down Under these days?

Soft rocker John Graham Mellor would have celebrated his 56th birthday today… Also, Kenny Rogers turns 70, and conductor Basil Poledouris would have been 63. He created the music for such classics as Conan the Barbarian, Red Dawn, RoboCop, Hunt for Red October, and, his finest hour, Cherry 2000.

Today's Religion of Peace Update. And a bonus piece about tolerance, just for NB's resident Muslim parrot. Braaawk!

The Photo of the Day.

Robots patrol the deserts of Iraq. Is the T-101 not far behind?

Just think, your tax dollars could be funding Media Matters, NARAL, and ACORN! Woohoo!

The most horrific battle in history began on this date, 67 years ago.

And, finally, The Top Ten Olympic Highlights.

oh shrubby you bigotnorant

oh shrubby you bigotnorant slut:)!

very sorry - I know you want attention - but I already got my hands full with maher today - he's bashing all 4000+ world religions on national TV again so your obsessive Muslim repetitions are free and clear for today

sqwak,

TM 

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

Bwaaack! Truthie want a

Bwaaack! Truthie want a cracker?

 

Rog, I am beginning to

Rog, I am beginning to wonder if maybe we should have backed Germany there in Russia, then kicked Germany's back side. Then we could have seen to it Russia and Stalin went another way.

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Did you catch the interview

Did you catch the interview with Keri Walsh after her team won the gold medal in the Beach Volleyball competition?  She was answering questions to the NBC reporter doing the interview, and then asked if it was okay if she said something.  When the reporter said yes, Walsh pulled the microphone to her mouth and said "Mr. President, thank you so much for your inspiration and we appreciate everything you're doing", then the NBC reporter took the microphone back before she could say anything else.

Bruzilla, that just simply means...

That when it comes to the gold medal in beach volleyball, it was all George Bush's fault!

Heaven forbid that NBC would allow that propoganda to be put on the air!

"I think we're all bozos on this bus!" - Firesign Theatre

A pro-Bush, young, female

A pro-Bush, young, female northern Californian? Remarkable!

Hmmm... I wonder if she

Hmmm... I wonder if she could hear the director SCREAMING in the reporter's earpiece to get the microphone away from her.

Way to GO! :-D

Much better than the Dixie

Much better than the Dixie Chicks response.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Bruz

Bruz,

I went to bed before the end of the match. Did this really happen? Honestly? At what time? Please be as specific as you can (in EDT). ns

Noel, It's posted over at

Noel,

It's posted over at Hot Air.

http://hotair.com/ar...

 

dbo, GREAT CLIP

A bit of digging over at hotair... Man did that clip end, fast! someone in the control room... slow on the switch... NBC consistently sucks.

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IranianUranium

Guess what,

At HotAir, they link a clip to youtube, but when you try to watch it, it is no longer available, due to "third party copyright claims" or somesuch. Wonder why.

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liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008

Lovestruck Unsane

...and perhaps most importantly, Keri Walsh is 6 feet tall, IIRC.

(sigh)

I think I'm in love... 

The Olympics are now under way in Beijing.  May the people of Beijing get thoroughly sick of hearing The Star Spangled Banner.  May the Beijing Olympic Committee run out of U.S. flags for the medal ceremonies!  USA!  USA!!  USA!!!

Iran to put man into space???

From a story linked on Drudge.

Somehow, I envision it as:

http://i19.photobuck...

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The perfect chance to test

The perfect chance to test "star wars".

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bass, as soon as ack-ack-inadinnerjacket wants to go.

he's a very small manlette, able to fit in a small pay-load cone.

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LOL Upcountry...good

LOL Upcountry...good pick..

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Smackdown: Developing

I kid you not!

  1. Politico asked McCain how many houses he's got. McCain says "Let me get back to you"
  2. Obama jumps in and asks how McCain can feel for the struggle of people trying to fight off foreclosure when he owns seven houses?
  3. McCain (camp) fires back about how can a man who made $4 million last year and had a felon help him out in his home purchase, point the finger at McCain.

This is getting fun

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McCain just doesn't know

McCain just doesn't know what he's up against:) 

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

Cool Arrow

What would be awsome is if McCain reached into his pocket, pulled out 35 cents and tell Obama, "Hey Barak looks like I got enough money for an 8th house.  How much do you think your brother will take for his?" 

 

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The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985

Right semper

Looks like they found Cindy McCain's sister just in time.

Strange how that works out.

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Anyone else having site

Anyone else having site problems the past couple of days?

Extremely slow loading.....hanging up etc?

It's driving me nuts!

mb...site

I've been getting kicked off occasionally...but that happens alot on this computer and is not specific to NB. 

Other than that, loading fine. 

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Maybe

M aybe we got linked by Drudge somehow. That's usually when my access gets slow.

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well I'm just

well I'm just fine

doesn't everyone have a 64-way clustered SMP workstation array with an OC3 fiber connection like me...? 

Journalism is the opium of the liberals

mb.... Yes.... Especiall

mb....

Yes....

Especially yesterday...I don't know about today yet....haven't really been on it yet.

I lost a post once and got access denied once, between the very slow loading ect.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

number of houses?

Obama is claiming McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns.  Really?!  Who's going to buy that?! Why wouldn't he know?  How many does Obama own, that's what i want to know... probably 1 in Chicago, DC, Hawaii, and at least one overseas.

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Definitely some fun stuff going on here.

I wonder if Barack owns the little crate his brother lives in (on $1 per day) over in Kenya.

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What is the big deal?

How many did The Poodle have? Acutally how many did his wife have? What about Dingy Harry and Nazi Pelosi? This is just silly. It may play to those who are living like Obama's step brother but it is nonsense to me.

If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!

McCain's houses

I just saw obama's attack ad.  First off, 7 houses worth 13 million is only $1.85 million per house.  I live outside DC and can tell you, that will only get you 4 bed, 3 1/2 bath around here.  How much is Osama's 1 palace outside of Chicago worth? hmmmmm...

The worth of Osama's palace...

Probably almost as much as the Reeeeeevvvvvvvernnnnd Jerihimyah Wright's million dollar palace that Osama Bama's church is building for him! 

Nice little "retirement" gift for a black racist, huh? Bet he'll invite Mr. and Mrs. Obamessiah over for tea sometime...

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IndyMac

Free market economics or government bailouts?

Schumer and libs will do anything for power, including brainwashing our population that we are in a never ending state of decline.

IndyMac is a small example yet normal liberal political malpractice.

The Feds cited Schumer in the IndyMac collapse 4 weeks ago. So?

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DAILY WAVE

for those of you critical of Schumer

Consider what will happen the next time a Republican politician says disparaging things about a poorly run (and we can all agree on this, right? IOW, even if Schumer had totally STFU, that bank would have either failed anyway or else remained poorly managed in realityville) financial institution and it subsequently fails...Some of you will no doubt want to spin it differently if/when that happens, but results should be the same, so if you're advocating a Schumer investigation now you're effectively advocating investigating that hypothetical Republican for his correct prediction in the future.

The investigation which should happen can easily come from the media, at $0 cost to taxpayers. "What kind of political contributions to politicians did this bank's incompetent managers make?" Then you can spin it as vindictive-Schumer if the politicians were Republicans, since there are a few dozen equally-crappy excuses for banks out there which have yet to go tits-up, sadly.

And BTW, like other large-L Libertarians, I've said disparaging things for decades about Fannie & Freddie, and I ran for office once, long ago. Should I be investigated/blamed, now that they're both rapidly flushing shareholder value down the crapper as we predicted, correctly??
JMR

The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.

JDW...

Prediction

Obama's now saying the McCain described a rich person as making $5 mil or more (in addition to poking him for not knowing how many homes he owns).  Didn't McCain predict that his (joking) statement would be taken out of context?  Or was that prediction referencing another part of the Saddleback forum?

Back To Denver

Denver to allow marijuana during convention

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Spontaneous patriotism at NBC

Did anyone see when the girls won the beach volleyball gold last night? When they were being interviewed they gave a nice shout-out to the President. It would be great if someone could post the video up here. NBC probably had a cow.

Point Counterpoint

Especially considering their gushing when they noted that an Olympic athlete (wish I could remember the event) attended the same high school in HI that His Most Excellent Glorious Messiah went to. 

The Olympics are now under way in Beijing.  May the people of Beijing get thoroughly sick of hearing The Star Spangled Banner.  May the Beijing Olympic Committee run out of U.S. flags for the medal ceremonies!  USA!  USA!!  USA!!!

Obama ... more than unfit

Obama is a true LIEberal supporting infanticide (h/t WND):

According to the transcript, Obama said:

As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending
physician who has determined, since they were performing this
procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that
fetus, or child – however way you want to describe it – is now outside
the mother's womb and the doctor continues to think that it's nonviable
but there's, let's say, movement or some indication that, in fact,
they're not just coming out limp and dead, that, in fact, they would
then have to call a second physician to monitor and check off and make
sure that this is not a live child that could be saved.

His denial that he ever supported infanticide is a LIE ... what a surprise! This loser is unfit to be a Senator let alone POTUS. The more I learn of BHO the more I feel I have no choice but to support McCain. I cannot fathom this amoral person as POTUS; I thought Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter were awful...this loser is even worse IMHO.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

It makes sense that

It makes sense that Schmuckie Schumer would go after IndyMac Bank for originating loans based on minimal documentation.  After all, with all the credit reports his staff stole from political enemies, he would have been in a perfect position to provide IndyMac with the necessary documentation.

If any Democrat AG would give serious consideration to this complaint, it would be Jerry Brown.  Nutcase that he is, Brown is also a uniquely principled man.  That said, word on the street is that the erstwhile Governor Moonbeam is considering a re-run for Governor of California once the Last Action Zero leaves office in disgrace.  With Gavin Newsom and Villaraigiosa continually outdoing each other in the competition to embarrass themselves and their party the most, Edmund G. may actually be seen as the "safe" choice.  If he's got another gubenatorial run in him, Brown will likely throw all principle out the window and appease the Schmuckster.  That said, Schumer is a criminal and has gotten far too poisonous...he needs to be cut off at the knees at some point.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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