Hollywood to Launch Raft of Anti-military, Anti-war Movies

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Screencap of In the Valley of Elah starring Tommy Lee Jones and Susan SarandonFirst it was the traumatized Vietnam veteran, now are Iraq vets set to become the next "progressive" cliché?

Being the strapping patriot sort of folks that they are, the Hollywood left is gearing up to release a bunch of anti-military movies that portray veterans of the Iraq war as deranged psychopaths, screwed up by an "unjust" war. The New York Times's Michael Cieply reports (h/t Instapundit):

Now some in Hollywood want moviegoers to decide if the killing is emblematic of a war gone bad, part of a new and perhaps risky willingness in the entertainment business to push even the touchiest debates about post-9/11 security, Iraq and the troops’ status from the confines of documentaries into the realm of mainstream political drama.

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On Sept. 14, Warner Independent Pictures expects to release “In the Valley of Elah,” a drama inspired by the Davis murder, written and directed by Paul Haggis, whose “Crash” won the Academy Award for best picture in 2006. The film stars Tommy Lee Jones as a retired veteran who defies Army bureaucrats and local officials in a search for his son’s killers. In one of the movie’s defining images, the American flag is flown upside down in the heartland, the signal of extreme distress.

Other coming films also use the damaged Iraq veteran to raise questions about a continuing war. In “Grace Is Gone,” directed by James C. Strouse and due in October from the Weinstein Company, John Cusack and two daughters struggle with the loss of a wife and mother who is killed on duty. Kimberly Peirce’s “Stop-Loss,” set for release in March by Paramount, meanwhile, casts Ryan Phillippe as a veteran who defies an order that would send him back to Iraq.

In the past, Hollywood usually gave the veteran more breathing space. William Wyler’s “Best Years of Our Lives,” about the travails of those returning from World War II, was released more than a year after the war’s end. Similarly Hal Ashby’s “Coming Home” and Oliver Stone’s “Born on the Fourth of July,” both stories of Vietnam veterans, came well after the fall of Saigon.

Of course, these movies aren't politically motivated at all:

“Media in general responds much more quickly than ever before,” said Scott Rudin, a producer of “Stop-Loss.” “Why shouldn’t movies do the same?” He said his film was deliberately scheduled to be released in the middle of the presidential campaign season.

That impetus for immediacy is driving other filmmakers and studios as well. In October, for example, New Line Cinema will release “Rendition,” in which Reese Witherspoon plays a woman whose Egyptian-born husband is snared by a runaway counterterrorism apparatus. Paul Greengrass, the director of “The Bourne Ultimatum,” in which the bad guys belong to a similar rogue unit, is adapting Rajiv Chandrasekaran’s book about the Green Zone in Baghdad, “Imperial Life in the Emerald City,” for Universal Pictures.

Brian De Palma’s “Redacted,” focusing on an Army squad that persecutes an Iraqi family, is to be released in December by Magnolia Pictures. And Sony Pictures is developing a film based on the story of Richard A. Clarke, the former national security official and Bush administration critic.

Isn't it wonderful how the left can with one hand decry the "unfairness" of the one medium that the right dominates (talk radio) while shamelessly making politicized movies (and television shows for that matter) explicitly designed to whip up anti-war frenzy and bash our nation's military?

—Matthew Sheffield is the founder of NewsBusters and its Executive Editor.


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Hollywood Halfwits and war

Re:

“My son saw some war atrocities over in Iraq, and they had to murder him in order to keep it quiet,” said Lanny Davis, a retired Army staff sergeant whose efforts sparked the investigation at a time when his son was assumed to be absent without leave. The atrocity question did not figure significantly in the real-life trial, but the movie puts a twist of its own on the issue.

On another point, however, Mr. Davis had no quarrel with Mr. Haggis. “I’ve been thinking about flying my own flag upside down,” Mr. Davis said. “This isn’t my America, the one I stood up for.”

Really? I raise the bull---- flag on this one. I thought about flying my flag upside down during the Klintoon regime, too. A horrible crime by a couple of drunken idiots does not equate a "cover up". If this miserable man wants an outlet for his bitterness over the war, he can demonstrate in front of the nearest Mosque.

 

 

"On the Eighth Day God Created the United States Army and the Devil Stood at Attention"

anti-war follywood

Where's Mel Gibson when you need him? "We Were Soldiers" is one of the first VN war movies that actually portrayed the men of my time as soldiers, not whacked out dope smoking murderers and mental cases. The only other decent one was "Firebase Gloria".

The left hates the military because it is everything they are not. They always will. They think the days of Hitler, Stalin, etc. are over. It never will be. If they do to today's soldiers what they did to us there won't be a military to protect them next time (their goal) and the results will be poetic justice - think France, WW II.

Why are they making this

Why are they making this CRAP? 

There has yet to be a movie made about the heroic battle on top of Takur Ghar in Afghanistan during operation Anaconda over three years ago in which US forces heroically fought off several hundered Tali/AQ.

THere has not been a movie made showing the heroics of Paul Ray Smith in the fight that garnered himself the posthumous Medal of Honor.

Nor has there been a movie made regarding any of a hundered firefights that have occurred in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yet, for political reasons to tar the conservative side of the issue, they will MAKE THIS CRAP???????

John Wayne is now Spinning at 3000 RPM.

I agree. Hollywood seems to

I agree. Hollywood seems to view liberals who oppose wars as the niche group to cater to. Much different compared to John Wayne's America.

again think of the anti-us

again think of the anti-us sentiment they will CASH IN on around the world - these films are not just US releases...

True, but I think the

True, but I think the movie-makers aren't just looking at it from a $$$ perspective. They probably feel these stories need to be told. (Their duty to fellow liberals who share the same underlying beliefs about our GIs.) I wonder if there are fringe conservatives who also think the average GI is deranged, unintelligent, and homicidal?

Contrary- Concur, think

Contrary-

Concur, think about it. 

If Paul Ray Smith had been  GAY, then they would have had a miniseries on every single network devoted to his life by now......

Stalinwood

...and Hollywood wonders why each year, less and less people go to the theater.  Of course, they'll blame the 6 people in the counrty that watch bootleg videos...  Just like the MSM blaming their plummeting ratings on the viewers themsleves ala Katie Couric.  Hollywood and the MSM are almost synonymous. 

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Good point.  After getting

Good point.  After getting beat over the head day after day with only negative news on the war, why do I want to go shell out $10 to watch a movie that will make me feel bad? 

Misery may love company, but I, for one, still feel proud to be an American and what America stands for.  And Hollywood wonders why people consider it leftist, anti-America, anti-traditional values?

Dutch

I don't really think

I don't really think subject matter is the problem. People bemoan content, but there are many other factors at play.

Hollyleft

Really shows how these folks "support the troops".

Profits

Meanwhile Hollywood executives continue to wonder why they are losing profits. Must be those darn DVD's.

Fading Profits

I think its time the American people stand up to the traitorous bastards in Hollywood and put an end to their Anti American retoric.  That goes for the actors, directors, producers and studios.

Come on America Stand Tall !!!!!!!

 

Movie Losses

Hollywood executives aren't too smart sometimes. My bet is that propaganda movies that portrays America at war in a negative light will go over like a lead balloon. The premise is ludicrous. People won't waste hard-earned money on that, especially when the same crap is being misrepresented on the news every day. Haven't they learned anything from Live Earth? The debate is over.

Remember the global market

Remember the global market that will just eat these treason films right up - cashing in on Anti-Americanism worldwide!!!!

But I do not question their "patriotism" at all:)

The crazy American Soldier/Vet Vietnam playbook template.

And how it demeans the individual and reduces the psyche to simplistic and irrational character.

This whole 'take' on the Veteran and Soldier sickens me.  There are several issues with the iconic crazy Veteran/Soldier.

1.  The soldier has to have zero honor and foundation for his chosen profession.

2.  The soldier must be by nature a brittle creature who is easily staggered by the concept of 'war' which is the purpose of an Army.

3.  The soldier must only have one fallback to their frustration, if any, with their experience - violent outrage against the evil machine manifesting in the harm to innocent people (to teach the world a lesson I suppose).

4.  The soldier must always choose the most vile of actions when faced with dilemma in battle.

5.  The soldier must always be the victim of some immorality.

6.  There is no higher cause for the military other than lack of choice leading to the victimhood.

7.  The whole concept of trauma must be the outcome of violence, when the exact opposite is the norm rather than the exception.

8.   The loss of a 'mother/father' in war is much more traumatic and emotional than the loss of same in a traffic accident which is of course much more the case by a factor of about 200,000 to 3,500.

But I'm just a cold-hearted statistician cum-Economist who cannot figure out that war is always not winnable and is always not necessary.

ACA

...

Quoted from:  'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)

Talk radio and movies are

Talk radio and movies are hardly the same thing. (I'm not for the fairness doctrine, btw)

I still maintain that if there was enough of an outcry for movies that glorify war, that only show soldiers as John Wayne-esque, they'd make them.

There is, actually. Why do

There is, actually. Why do you think that the Memorial Day movie marathons on AMC and even Turner tend to focus on the "good soldier/John Wayne" movies. Its interesting the lack of anti-war soldier stories on these movie networks.
As for why Hollywood produces the anti-war schlock - one only has to remember that the isolation of Hollywood makes DC appear quite in touch with the world. Remeber the movie "The Player"?

jmt
http://www.jmichaelt.org

Agreed

"300" was one such movie as well.

Dude, these people make

Dude, these people make these movies as political ads. Holier-then-thou leftists the world over are porting money to these 'arthouse' (flophouse is more like it) movie studios to produce this shi...er...schlock.

Then, the Hollywood crowd will justify these travesties with film 'achievement' awards from groups with monikers like 'Americans Soberly Supporting Honorary, Overt Luddite Eccentrics', so by the time the Oscars come around, they will be taken 'seriously' as 'art' because some leftist group that's made up of a dozen or so Berkley 'intellectuals' says so.

When movie posters boast 'reviews' from PETA, ACLU, NAACP, CAIR, and the like, do we really need to see it to know for what purpose it was filmed?

Surely, having seen the Billy jack films in my youth, I have some idea how badly these propoganda pieces will turn out.

Actually there has been an

Actually there has been an outcry just for any good movie, hence the reason the box office has been taking some big hits in recent years. 

As long as there are deep pockets by liberal elitists to put out these films they'll keep getting made regardless of demand.  It's the message that's more important to them right now.

“Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. It is a weapon our adversaries in today's world do not have. “ – Ronald Reagan

Cinema sales have taken a

Cinema sales have taken a hit, but DVD and home theater sales have soared. People are watching the movies Hollywood puts out; at home.

As for the movies that TMC and the like show around Memorial Day, most of those are about WWII, aren't they? And showing them a couple of times a year doesn't really mean there's a huge cry for them. The rest of the year it's Dodgeball, Hellboy, Rush Hour 2, etc.

it's been proven but ignored by Hollywood

movies like Gibson's "Passion" raked in an obscene profit even with all the negative publicity. So movies glorifying God, or honor, or sacrifice, or good vs. evil are very profitable. Look at cheesy sci fi like "Independence Day", which didn't bemoan the poor alien invaders, and where it was *good* to be human (not the whole "we met the monsters and they were us" crap)and it still makes money in rentals years later. "The Patriot"? another big winner.

So yes, there is an outrcy. Hollywood *refuses* to make them. Because while movie companies may lose money on craptacular porpaganda bombs, individuals making the decisions make lots of money. I'm sure even with a little help from the richest men in the world, many of whom are Middle Eastern royalty and self-appointed kingmakers.

Besides, you think most of these creatively minded metrosexual execs who approve the scripts would have the cajones to stand up and defend their choice if some angry headhunting "insurgent" came to call?

A couple years ago I saw an

A couple years ago I saw an author (male) on a CSPAN book show.  He'd written a couple books, one on how banning DDT has, in essence, been a genocide on the African population.  The other was a book about how many, MANY of the so-called- Vietnam vet turned killer or violent stories were found to be former military members who had NEVER even been "in country" or in battle if they had been there.  It was ALL media invented, spun and driven.  I really wish I could recall the author's name.  I had saved some of the info on him and his books on my old computer that "self-destructed" many months ago.  Perhaps one of yunz or one of the NB's writers know who I am talking about ...

So My Lai was a myth

So My Lai was a myth produced by the media?

"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world
history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first
time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.

I DID NOT SAY THAT!...

I DID NOT SAY THAT!... DUHHH!!! WRONG COUNTRY... DUH!!!

 I was TALKING about those crimes reported here in the states by alleged Vietnam vets ... who were actually found, by people who knew how to do research and look for the WHOLE frakkin' story, to NOT have even served a tour in Vietnam ...

Jump back on track, dude.

 

 

kafka

You are reporting that William Calley engaged in what illegal activity after serving his sentence?

Come on kafka, I'm wondering what you know and when you knew it.

Has he been killing people since returning to civilian life?

That was a streach even for

That was a streach even for you kaf. Really reaching out arnt you?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Cut n run Kafka

That was going to be so much fun, too.

That's the trouble with arguing with Libs.  The debate either stonewalls at the first level with the PeeWee Herman rope-a-dope (Iknow you are but what am I), or the Lib just realizes they left something on the stove.  Hope the cat didn't get too badly burned.

Were all the people being

Were all the people being killed trying to escape from East Germany to West Germany a myth produced by the media?  Didn't people want to try Honecker for crimes for all the people killed trying to leave East Germany?

Now if you're going to bring up the Mai Lai Massacre, make sure to bring up the Hue Massacre.  That's South Vietnamese civilians killed by the NVA and Viet Cong after the Tet Offensive.

  Maybe the US soldiers from the Mai Lai Massacre had learned their skills from Honecker's soldiers on the Berlin Wall.

"The Wall will be standing in 50 and even in 100 years, if the reasons for it are not removed."  Erich Honecker


 

By the way: the word

By the way: the word genocide is implying intent. I think you used the wrong word.

"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.

Not my choice ... The

Not my choice ... The author's.  I, however, believe it is the correct term.

How comes that? Who

How comes that? Who intended to kill those people?

"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.

Why, the evil racist West,

Why, the evil racist West, of course. 

Actually, the author implies the eco-left's insistence and importance in being victorious in banning such things as DDT (the original study of DDT's effects highly in question) in the face of horrific increases in malaria and other mosquito related diseases primarily in the generally poor African population over the decades since DDT's banning. 

These are the same people who insist genetically altered crops (for the purpose of disease and pest resistance) SHOULD NOT be used to feed the Third World ... because supposedly no one knows generations down the road how humans will react to such modern foods.  Yeah, better they should starve to death now.

But you digress ... The point of my original post has been completely tossed aside by you.

It's funny to me that the

It's funny to me that the same people that claim liberals fighting to ban DDT has led to millions of deaths in Africa, also fight against the spread of condom-usage in Africa, which would obviously prevent millions of AIDS related deaths.

You can't have it both ways.  Too funny.

Abstinence only, fella!

Abstinence only, fella!

LOL Bal!

LOL Bal!

Abstinence - the one and

Abstinence - the one and only method 100% effective:)!

 Ignore that and weep...

And 100% unrealistic. ;-)

And 100% unrealistic. ;-)

100% real!

oh, just like anti-smoking campaigns:)?

Not unless we're born with

Not unless we're born with a really, really strong innate need to smoke that kicks in at 13 or so that I'm not aware of.

the smoking thing kicks in

the smoking thing kicks in at about age 8 or 9 - this based on caveman analysis - way before they had the "big tobacco" industry:)

gender confusion kicks in about the first day of public school...

Hate for the US kicks in round about the first year of college...

I have many useful stats!

Perfectly stated.  Ha! 

Perfectly stated.  Ha! 

Thanks Leon! but i dont

Thanks Leon!

but i dont like ta brag:)

Leon you really should try

Leon, you really should try to curb your really really strong innate urge to turn on a computer and access the internet. In your case, abstinence is the only solution.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

This is what kicks in

This is what kicks in around 13 or so...

Leon is discovering his "special purpose:)!"

And i guess we must be the ones to teach him sh*t from sh*nola...

Leon, have you checked the

Leon, have you checked the new phone book lately? Your name might be in print. Go look!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Yeah ... Exactly who is

Yeah ... Exactly who is against condoms for Africa (and I assume you are hinting at some conservative religious group)?  Now, compare those numbers to those insisting DDT still NOT be used. 

FYI, it is the cultural African male who resists not only the use of available condoms, but practicing being faithful to his wife (one woman), whom he brings home the diseases to ... and she in turn passes onto their children.

Nice try ... apples and onions.

Some conservative religious

Some conservative religious group is right...the Bush administration.

Yes - God bless em:)!

Yes - God bless em:)!

Show me the money ... Oh,

Show me the money ...

Oh, and BTW, the USA isn't the only country that can help out poor countries ... It's just the only one who really cares to. Tons of condom crates can be sent to Africa ... But ya can't physically go in there and put them on for them ...

"But ya can't physically go

"But ya can't physically go in there and put them on for them..."

Job opportunity Leon! At least it will get you out of your moms basement.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM,

LOL-Damn, you beat me by a whole minute.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

Bandwidth my friend, and

Bandwidth my friend, and too much free time! :-)

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Now THERE is a Job this American doesn't want to do!

Now THERE is a Job this American doesn't want to do! 

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

drill,

But ya can't physically go in there and put them on for them ...

LOL-Maybe Leon here will volunteer. After all, he cares so much.

Help Fred defeat everybody.

Bush is not Conservative

Bush is not a real Conservative.  It's amazing you libs cry and pee over HIM.  Wait till we have another Reagan like president.  THEN you will know how much Patriotism hurts you dummy libs. 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Screw Africa

Hey Leon, you can't blame the Bush Administration for the epidemic that has been going on for decades in Africa.  Calm your hatred of Conservatives, and you might learn some things.

Fatty 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

 

By the way.  I'm tired of throwing my hard earned dollars at another region who can't seem to crawl out of the 14th century.  More waring tribes.  More war lords, and drug selling.  It's not the fault of the US that those people with aids can't seem to maintain a faithful relationship.  We should have stopped donating to them a LONG time ago.  We can only do so much.  I'm sick and tired of people pissing all over my country, when we are the LEADING charitable country.  To hell with you all.  Or your place of unending suffering of your choice :-)

Off-topic

This entire discussion is off-topic. Please move further replies on this to the forum.

If you can't win a debate, attack the word genocide

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Ignoramuses

The irony. So many have paid the ultimate price so that these ignoramuses can do what they are doing.Truly sad.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

I know, I justed wanted to

I know, I justed wanted to see you flip out! That was supposed to be posted above.

"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.

Which is 50% of how

Which is 50% of how liberals operate (doing things for effect) ... The remaining 50% is self-preservation at the cost ($$$ and freedoms) of the rest of the population.

And that brings us back to 100% of how Hollywood operates.

That is how politics works.

That is how politics works. So why shouldn't Hollywood copy that?

"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.

}}}----> kafka

So suppose Hollywood lets slip they are making a movie about a woman running for President whose husband was once President.  Suppose the plot centers on reopening an investigation into the mysterious death of this woman's closest confidante which occurred during her husband's tenure as President.

Nothing to suggest it's anything but fiction, is there?  The disclaimer will most assuredly be posted onscreen.

Suppose Hollywood decides this work of fiction will be released a month before the 2008 election.

Still no problems with this work of fiction Kafka?

Why can't you be honest?

Gee, I'd pay money to see

Gee, I'd pay money to see that one.

}}}----> Kafka runs again

I guess these Libs really do know how to get under my skin.  Catch them in blatant hypocrisy and they just run off to another blog because they are so embarrassed by their own ignorance.

Half hour later they're back like they didn't notice the rebuttal they fled.

Kafka is toast now

Too many drive-by postings.

}}}----> Thanks, Matt

As you know, we really do enjoy a good debate.  This one promised to be so much fun.

BTW, is that Susan

BTW, is that Susan Sarandon standing behind Tommy Lee Jones in the picture?  Seems the woman has stereotyped herself with these roles anymore.  Also, the studios must save loads of dollars not hiring a make-up man/woman and make-up for her, as she just steps on set as is.

Her much anticipated role as that mother Cindy Sheehan should be one of the easiest she's ever done. Both physically and mentally.

Yes it's Sarandon

She's a good barometer of the political agenda of a movie. Her being in it doesn't necessarily mean it's liberal but it sure won't be conservative or libertarian.

Anymore she just steps in

Anymore she just steps in and is herself in these roles.  I even doubt if they have to write any dialog for her ... She just opens her mouth and her own words, beliefs, opinions, and ideology spews forth.

Poor comparison . . .

In the past, Hollywood usually gave the veteran more breathing space. William Wyler’s “Best Years of Our Lives,” about the travails of those returning from World War II, was released more than a year after the war’s end. Similarly Hal Ashby’s “Coming Home” and Oliver Stone’s “Born on the Fourth of July,” both stories of Vietnam veterans, came well after the fall of Saigon.

The Best Years of Our Lives is as different in tone and message from Coming Home and Born On The Fourth of July as WW2 different is from Vietnam.  The latter two films are unabashedly anti-war movies, focusing negatively on military culture, the war itself, and the improper care for disabled veterans who are trying to return to a civilian life that can never be the same.   Being anti-war films, the filmmakers probably needed a couple of years to gauge the audiences sentiments regarding the war and acceptance of such films.  Of those two, Born is the better one -- although Stone takes some politically-motivated liberties with the story telling -- because it was based on the autobiography of Ron Kovic, a Marine vet and parapelegic.

The Best Years of Our Lives makes no judgment on the war itself; in 1946, its audience understood the stakes all too well.  It focuses on how the war changed the lives of three returning veterans --- one a double amputee played by actual WW2 vet Harold Russell -- and the challenges of returning to their civilian lives.  And it remains won of the greatest films about war vets ever produced.  It's one of my favorites.

 

 

The Best Years of Our

The Best Years of Our Lives

One of mine also.  I tear up every darned time.

Harold Russell actually had a cameo role in the TV series "China Beach".  He played the lead character nurse's WWII vet uncle when she came home to Kansas (I think it was on leave) from `Nam.  It was in the final season of the show ... and I swear I heard the theme music for Homer from the movie being used for his "China Beach" character's scenes.

A list of Russell's acting accomplishments:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0751174/

He passed away in 2002.

}}}----> Tear jerkers

We Were Soldiers had me crying like I've never cried in my life.  Even more so than Saving Private Ryan.

I have two Vietnam vet

I have two Vietnam vet friends who still are unable to watch "We Were Soldiers".  One served on the big gun on one of those choppers that dropped guys in and swooped in to bug them out on the battlefields.

Such movies are guilty of commiting a major sin ... Showing the Vietnam soldier as human, and not some careless mindless killing animal.

I'm shocked!  Hollywood

I'm shocked!  Hollywood making Lefty-oriented movies?  Unbelievable! </sarc>

 

Another irony here is that

Another irony here is that the US is a more violent place than Iraq and most of the killings here are committed by liberal dumbocrats.

Why do you think they (see

Why do you think they (see Hillary) are pushing so hard to allow convicted felons "the vote"??!!??

A little misleading, as

A little misleading, as we're not at war here in the U.S. But please, carry on.

Quite the contrary ... "The

Quite the contrary ... "The War On Poverty" ...

And by the way, why do you people feel the need to give us permission to "carry on"?

"War on

"War on Poverty"...really?

I wasn't saying "carry on" as a spokesperson of the left, and don't actually think I can give or not give permission.

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