CNN’s Martin Twice Equates Rev. Wright Scandal With Catholic Sex Scandal

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Roland Martin, a talk radio host out of Chicago and contributor to CNN, appearing on the network immediately Barack Obama’s "race speech" on Tuesday morning, compared the reaction to Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s much-publicized comments to the reaction to the Catholic sex scandal. Co-anchor Heidi Collins asked, "He [Obama] didn't disagree strong enough to go to a different church though. He stayed for many, many years. How do you think that will play?" Martin’s responded, "But frankly, I think that is irrelevant, because I don't -- look, I was born and raised Catholic. The first 25 years of my life of my life, I was Catholic.... And there are a number of people out there who are still Catholic today, even though the Church dropped the ball when it came to the whole issue of sex offenders, and some who left. But that's fine. But the reality is a person's faith is a personal decision."

Martin made similar comments on Monday’s "Newsroom" program during a discussion of Rev. Wright’s comments with co-anchor Don Lemon and Republican strategist Cheri Jacobus at the bottom of the 3 pm Eastern hour. "[Y]ou have a number of people who have said that, for Catholics, will you leave the Catholic Church because of what the church did when it came to sexual abuse victims? And you know what? A lot of folks have stayed."

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In both appearances, Martin then went on to also equivocate Rev. Wright’s comments to controversial comments made by conservative Christian ministers. During the "Newsroom" segment, Martin first said of Wright’s comments, "[L]ook, that is not, frankly, the most outlandish comment I've heard coming out of the pulpit, whether from the left or the right, Republican or Democrat," and later brought up two ministers who have endorsed John McCain -- John Hagee and Rod Parsley, something that Jacobus objected to.

MARTIN: Don, here's the problem you also see for John McCain....When you have Pastor John Hagee out of San Antonio who calls the Catholic Church a white whore, then you have Pastor Rod Parsley, who calls for the destruction of Islam as a focal point of the United States...

JACOBUS: Roland, I --

MARTIN: No, no, no. Cheri, Cheri, Cheri, Cheri...

JACOBUS: You're trying...

MARTIN: ... Cheri...

JACOBUS: You're comparing apples and oranges...

MARTIN: No, no, Cheri...

JACOBUS: ...and you know it.

MARTIN: Cheri, I am making the point as somebody who is an Evangelical, whose wife was an ordained minister for 20 years, that what you have is you have pastors on both ideological sides who will make comments, who endorse candidates...

JACOBUS: I agree.

MARTIN: ...and the candidates...

JACOBUS: Obviously they do.

MARTIN: ...are put in a position where they have to denounce them...

JACOBUS: Roland, there is a big difference between...

MARTIN: When they are not running for president.

JACOBUS: ...somebody else endorsing a candidate and that candidate endorsing that person to the point where they have them sitting -- as a leadership on their campaign and there's no...

MARTIN: Did John McCain call Rod Parsley a spiritual guide for America?

JACOBUS: Roland --

MARTIN: Rod Parsley created the Patriot Pastors that elected George W. Bush.

JACOBUS: Reverend Wright has --

MARTIN: Come on, now.

JACOBUS: Reverend Wright's comments have been known to Barack Obama for well over a year, and hee has kept him around. And you know that John McCain has said that he does not agree with the comments of the other -- these other people that have endorsed him.

LEMON: Cheri --

JACOBUS: So I really think you're being disingenuous and you're...

MARTIN: No, you've got folks on both sides who are making inflammatory comments, Cheri.

During the segment after Obama’s speech on Tuesday, Martin brought up not only Hagee and Parsley, but also Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

MARTIN: But what he also said in his speech, Heidi -- he also broke down the good the church is trying to accomplish. And so, I think we measure a man, we measure a woman, we take -- in the words of Anderson Cooper's show -- a 360 degree view of a person, as opposed to a 90 degree view of a person. And so, does anybody out there who says, well, why didn't you leave Trinity United Church of Christ? I would say the same thing to anybody who goes to Pat Robertson's church, Jerry Falwell's church, John Hagee's church, to Rod Parsley's church, to any number of other pastors who have made critical comments that we have condemned. So, I don't necessarily believe that anyone should say, well, you should have left the church, and I think what he did in this speech was speak to the good of Trinity, the bad of Trinity, the good of America, the bad of America, and say, we all -- white, black, Asian, Hispanic, male, female, gay, straight, Christian, non-Christian -- should be focused on a more perfect union for the United States of America.

—Matthew Balan is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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typical lefty spin

Liberals can never accept criticism without being sure they blame someone else in the process.

 

Exactly cd... ....and

Exactly cd...

....and that too is getting way past old....especially lately regarding Wright/Obama hate preach mess.

It is getting aggravating to say the least and will not work to most thinking people, only the leftists in the msn love this BS and the loony leftists who are going to vote for the likes of Obama come hell or high water.

They really need to get a new tactic....they may want to try the truth...but the truth hurts for these simple critters...they can't face the truth.

Let's talk apples to

Right on. They always make it a "he's not the only one" deal. Rev. Wright is no worse than Pat Robertson or John Hagee...just louder and more flamboyant.

And let's talk apples to apples:

They are saying Catholics should have left the Catholic Church. But no one expected Obama to leave the entire United Church of Christ and start attending, say, Methodist services. The thinking is that he should have found another UCC "family" with a different pastor, to worship with. (the equivalent of a Catholic joining another parish).

 

Big difference...

between staying with a religion and staying with a church.

You stay with a religion because of the teachings of the religion, which has pastors who may not say what you like. You have a choice to stay with that religion but change churches/pastors.

absolutely right ...

Martin's analogy is ridiculous. The sinful actions by individuals have no bearing on Catholic authority.

Meanwhile, Rev. Wright teaches his own form of Protestantism from the pulpit, and makes his own authoritative claims as to what Christianity is. He is his own teaching authority.

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Only one problem

The Catholic Church never preached child molestation. The bishops dropped the ball because they were afraid of the damage to the clergy's reputation, and rather than address the issue squarely, they tried to hide it. But not even the slimiest bishop ever stood in a pulpit and preached that child molestation was a good thing.

Reverend Wright preached hatred of whites and that 9/11 was justified ("chickens coming home to roost"). Big difference.

Martin is a self-righteous bigot, who miraculously wants us to absolve his anti-Catholic rants on the grounds that he's an ex-Catholic. If that makes no sense to you, you get it. He doesn't. CNN doesn't.

My thoughts exactly

The Catholics did not stand in church and preach go out and defile children, they did not spew hatred, they just made the mistake of overlooking.  But people in churches where known pediphiles were left that particular church to go to another!

If a Catholic had a priest

If a Catholic had a priest who he strongly objected to his preaching, he would be free to go and join another parish. As was Obama to go to a different UCC congregation. No one expected him to leave the UCC altogether.

And for Catholics, it was a whole different dynamic. We were dealing with mis-handling of the situation above our local levels. It's not like we had priests in the pulpit at Sunday Mass defending molestors. It's no small thing to leave the Catholic Church completely. But I know people who stopped giving money because of the way their bishop handled the problem in their diocese. They protested in the way they knew how, without giving up their religion.

Way different!

It's one thing if there were some very bad people who gave your religion a bad name... it's another thing if your OWN preacher did those bad things!

I don't think any Catholic's would've kept getting their spiritual advice from someone who molested their child! 

-Suzanne

Atack the critics

Even if I accepted Martin's version of what these evangelical preachers say, that does not justify what Wright is saying. This is no defense at all. Instead of answering the criticism, Martin attacks the critics.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

   So an abusive Priest

   So an abusive Priest and reverend Wright are equivilent?  That's great!  The Catholic Church has been sued many times for lots of money because of the abuse scandals so all of us 'Whites' should start a class action lawsuit because we have been subjected to abusive defamation.

Bigotet Supporters

Muslims Against Sharia call on Senators McCain and Obama to cut all ties with their racist, Islamophobic, and anti-Semitic supporters.

McCain: <a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/mccains-spiritual-guide-destroy-islam.html">http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/mccains-spiritual-guide-destroy-islam.html</a>
Obama: <a href="http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/racist-congregation-cheering-racist.html">http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2008/03/racist-congregation-cheering-racist.html</a>

The comparisons are fair

Matthew,

What is illogical is for ANYONE to say, "You should leave your church."

I want to know how many conservatives are disgusted with one of the fathers of the Religious Right movement, Frank Schaeffer, who himself called for the overthrow of the government.

According to his own son, he was invited to the White House to meet with Reagan, George H.W. Bush and Gerald Ford!

But I doubt any of you will bother to make a proper comparison.

If you want to debate this issue - Bring it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html