Surprise: Early Show Economist Blames 'Selfish' UAW

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Let's hope we haven't seen the last of economist Peter Morici on CBS.  The University of Maryland business professor, appearing on the Early Show this morning, put the blame for the failure of Big Three bailout squarely on the shoulders of the UAW for its refusal to accept pay cuts putting its members on par with non-union workers at US plants owned by foreign car manufacturers.  The Early Show did manage to balance things with some Dem demagoguery from the mayor of a Michigan city.

Morici singled out UAW president Ron Gettelfinger, calling him "unrealistic" and "selfish." Comic relief was later provided by Virg Bernero, mayor of Lansing, Michigan, who seemed to confuse South Carolina with South Korea.

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MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: Do you think that the lawmakers who rejected this are calling [the automakers'] bluff, and isn't that a huge risk?

PETER MORICI: Well I think they are calling their bluff, but I think they felt the American people were at greater risk. After all, these companies can't remain in business unless they accomplish wage parity with the Japanese manufacturers operating here.  And they've been told over and over again that the space between them isn't large. Then why won't the UAW move that distance?  If they won't move that distance before they get the money, then why would they ever move that distance after they got the money?

RODRIGUEZ: So are you saying if that if they file for bankruptcy and that spells doomsday, as the automakers predict that it will, will that be on the shoulders of the UAW who you believe were too selfish and too stubborn.

MORICI: I believe that Ron Gettelfinger, was—that's the president of the UAW—was too unrealistic and too selfish.
And a bit later.
RODRIGUEZ: Do you see GM and Chrysler merging to survive?

MORICI: Merging doesn't solve the basic problem. They're paying $1.25 for lemons, sugar and water and selling lemonade for $1 a glass.  Whether you put the two companies together or break them into seven pieces, if you're paying significantly more for labor in the production of automobiles, you simply cannot compete with Toyota and Honda.
Morici sees bankruptcy as a viable solution.
MORICI: It's possible to save these companies. Their technology's first-rate, they know how to make very good cars as is illustrated by what they do in China, and it's just a matter of getting their labor costs in line.  In bankruptcy court, Gettelfinger will have to deal, or the judge will abrogate the contract.

RODRIGUEZ: Yeah, it's sounding like they don't have much choice.
Rodriguez ended the segment by thanking Morici for his time.  Encouraging that she didn't say "goodbye forever."

I'd encourage viewers to view the whole of Harry Smith's ensuing interview of Lansing Mayor Bernero, but would highlight one gem. Asked if the UAW would be willing to make wage concessions to save the automakers, Bernero fumed.
VIRG BERNERO: Is the US Senate going to dictate exactly what an automaker works [sic]?  Again, I think it's the height of hypocrisy for them to be demanding that we go down to standards of competitors overseas.
Virg, those Southern accents might sound foreign to Michigan ears, but I assure you, Spartanburg's in South Carolina, not South Korea.

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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I NEVER watch CBS, but I'm

I NEVER watch CBS, but I'm surprised to hear that Morici appeared on that network. I doubt you'll see him again. He was a regular on the Lou Dobbs show until he stepped off the reservation and began making sense of the whole auto thing. He'll be banished from CBS just like he was banished from CNN!

The Bow Tie reflex

I have got to gain control of my Bow Tie Gag Reflex Syndrome because it seems that more smart people are wearing them lately. (and not only at weddings!)  I'm sure whoever booked this guy for CBS has been shown the door.

I'll fix that for

I'll fix that for ya:

Calypso Louie. 

GET A CLUE UAW

Lower the standard of living for UAW workers living in Michigan? I heard you can buy a house in Detroit for $1.00. Look, Mr. Mayor and other union thugs, when you are paying someone $78.00 an hour to make a product no one is buying, plus $31.00 an hour to ex-workers to sit on their a$$es, it doesn't compute! I want to know the exact amount of cash the UAW gave to BOH's campaign. I bet the amount could have paid wages to workers for quite sometime.

Thank you Republican Congressmen for holding out on the bailout. Come January 20 I'm sure Botox Nancy and Mentally Challenged Harry will bailout them out. But then the ball is in their court. They won't be able to use "it's Bush' fault" line then.

no...

They'll use the Bush scapegoat for YEARS to come. Don't you know? EVERYTHING is Bush's fault, even stuff that happened 30 years ago!

allow Chapter 11, get the

allow Chapter 11, get the contracts in line with the economy and perhaps they could have help. No rewards for bad behavior. All the anti war guys "we need the auto plants for national defence", 1st time i've heard that BS from them. Now thats funny.

 

 allow me to Love America

 

Gettelfinger, meet Middlefinger

It's about time.

And the same for you, Mr. Mayor. 

 

"The King has no clothes!"

Thank you Peter Morici.

v

btw Peter, got something good to say about "the one"? 

Morici's lemonade analogy

Morici's lemonade analogy is absolutely perfect.  Concise, accurate and easy enough for even some dummies to understand.  That said, Gettlefinger probably has some of his goons out trying find Morici's shoe measurements so he has enough concrete.  But if Bernero ever ran astray of the UAW Mob, they wouldn't need to fit him for shoes...his head's already made of cement.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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Retirees

Down here in Florida, retired auto workers brag constantly about how much money they made putting a wheel on a car on an assembly line somewhere in Michigan and still make as retired auto workers. They worked at something that a robot can do more efficiently and still want to live off the bragging rights. Michigan thought their s@#t didn't stink for decades because they had a monopoly on high paying auto jobs. They aren't laughing now because people around the world stopped buying their cars and now they can't catch up. The market for vehicles will not shrink because the number of manufacturers shrink. We will just buy different vehicles and if Toyota or Honda don't make what we want to buy at a competitive price then they too will go out of business.

okiehawk---

You nailed it. I am a retiree--from IBM-- I pay for my health insurance, if not for Medicare, I could not afford to do so. I had to buy a separate life insurance policy because the $5000 IBM retiree insurance would not go far. My retirement is modest, yet my background and training took a couple of seconds longer, (extreme sarcasm), than learning how to mount tires using a robotic device.

And yet, I consider myself fortunate. The employees and retirees of the auto industry need to wake up. Half a loaf is better than none.

I am no socialist, but I would rather have employment at 75 % of my salary and see all my fellows gainfully employed than to get 100 % of my salary, see 25-35% of my fellows laid off and, eventually, my job disappear.

There is an old saying that if you get greedy, you will wind up needy. (paraphrased)

dumb

You've got it nailed okie. I was a mid to upper level manager in an auto, engine Ford UAW plant and then an upper level manager in the largest bike factory in the world that was steel workers union.

The unions were scared sh#@less of me and guys like me because we made them do their jobs and didn't take their s$@t.

That is, until the companies started to turn power over from us in Operations Management, to the "Human Resources Departments". THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THE AUTO COMPANIES and manufacturing in this country in general.

You see, "Human Resources" is the ACLU of corporations in America. They installed the Dr. Spock theory into management and effectively stripped managements rights from them and turned it over to the unions. They used to say, behind my back, (because they didn't have the spines to say it to my face) that I was an expert in the "Dominant Ape Theory of Management". They thought they were cute then but I see them begging for financial assistance today.

At the age of 40, I told them where to get off the ship; I quit and started my own businesses, of which I am on my third now. The first one, we failed but we got better and better with the second and the third. I never asked anybody to bail me out of anything since if I ever wanted to see where we ever went wrong, the responsible guy would appear each morning, in the mirror as I was shaving.

I am getting ready to sell the current business and retire now. That is unless these geniuses in Washington give all the money to a bunch of losers that have overpaid a bunch of lazy a$$es for the last 30 years. 

here's a thought...

Here is a thought I have not heard expressed....if /when the bail out happens, what will the backlash be as far as car buyers are concerned. There will be a LOT of pissed off people expressing themselves with their wallet. If the "bloated 3" think they have problems now , just wait.

At least the UAW has Keith Olbermann on their side...

Yeah, Olbermann.  The dork who fiercely and bravely defended the UAWs outrageous cost of labar (active, along with those just sitting around doing nothing) during one of his "worst person" rants the other week.  The Worst Person in the World?  The NYT reporter who dared to write an article describing the cost of uninionized labor.

Forcing GM into bancruptcy (restructuring) would be doing them a huge favor.   They'd come out of it a much more competitive company.

Peter Morici

I was unaware that he did not appear on Lou Dobbs because of something he said. Prof Morici is a unique educator. He can explain complex issues in plain language for those of us less into the intrigues of economics. He also projects an honest, likable personality.

I withhold judgment on Lou Dobbs until I check further. Prof Morici and Dobbs seemed to be in sync.

It's way more than the hourly wage/bennies package

How about this craziness:

"Peter Morici, a professor at the University of Maryland’s school of business, told CNSNews.com that one of the biggest problems the companies face is the UAW’s Jobs Bank – a program established more than two decades ago that guarantees nearly full salary and benefits to out-of-work employees.

Right now if a plant closes in St. Louis and a new one opens in Kansas City, the workers don’t have to move from St. Louis to Kansas City; they can opt to get a $105,000 payout or go on Jobs Bank where they can collect 95 percent of pay for the rest of their lives,” Morici said."

WFT??? What idiot would opt for a one-time $105K payout over collecting almost your full salary (with full bennies) for laying on the couch watching TV for the rest of your life? And relocating is of course out of the question for a UAW member, unlike how the rest of US workers relocate all the time to follow their jobs.

Tell that to my worthless

Tell that to my worthless Bro in Law who for years threw in my face how much he made at Ford putting 3 screws in the bed of a truck, over $60k a year, and always bought new trucks every three years for 15 years.  Then in 2007 he took a buy out from the union and was all happy he was going to be able to sit around and make as much as he did when he was working.  Never mind that I told him the auto industry was about to crash and burn.  He scoffed at me and used his father as an example of someone making $40k a year in retirement for putting in 30 years.

Now he has burned thru the money they paid him and he is scared he can't get a job that pays as well as Ford did.  I told him he was an idiot and others like him in the unions will be crying a lot harder when the Big Three fail and they are trying to find their union rep who will disappear like a Democrate from the ghetto after the election is over.

 

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you"

Well, at least Michigan has their U of M football

Oh, wait ... nevermind.

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

Bye Bye UAW...

"MORICI: It's possible to save these companies. Their technology's
first-rate, they know how to make very good cars as is illustrated by
what they do in China, and it's just a matter of getting their labor
costs in line.  In bankruptcy court, Gettelfinger will have to deal, or
the judge will abrogate the contract."

The UAW ceased to be a viable voice for autoworkers when organized crime took it over in the 1960s (they tried in 1930s) and became the union that ran the automotive industry INTO THE GROUND with as much cetainty as the Islamic terrorists flew planes into buildings on Sept. 11th, 2001.

For decades the men in my father's family worked in the automotive industry.  It paid for our homes, the food on the table and the medical bills.  In the 1960s was when my father, his brother and many of their cousins, broke into the management ranks at places like Chevy, Ford and Chrysler.  Then came the widespread violence and riots during the intermittent strikes.

The writing has been on the wall since the 1970s.  

The union "professionals" and criminals will soon find another "host" to feed off of, (I'm thinking they'll "organize" government workers at all levels) these parasites finally killed the "host."

Coburn's math

I think it was Senator Coburn yesterday (or the day before) who argued that over the last year, GM and Toyota made about the same amount of money. However, Toyota showed a profit, while GM was deep in the hole. GM's cost of doing business was so much greater.

_ _ _ _ _  

That brings up a related point. Because of the bailout, Congress is now inspecting how the auto industry runs its business. Congress is now broadcasting Detroit's failures to the whole world. But think about it - Congress knew these figures before the economic collapse.

  • A lot of people knew that Detroit (Big Three and UAW) were collaborating in disaster, but no one said anything.
  • While you're thinking of that, remember that a lot of people knew that the mortgage and banking systems were rotting at the core, but no one said anything.

Maybe Congress should have been holding hearings about these practices before they became disasters. Well, OK, we don't really want Congress meddling in private enterprise. We'd like to throw some sunshine on these shady practices that wind up costing us money, but we don't want Congress to do it. Hmmmmm.

If only there was some other group of people who could investigate things and warn the general public of impending disasters ... people who could report about what's going on ... hmmm ... I wonder what that would be like?

UAW

I am from one of those "auto plant states".  No, not Michigan....Ohio.  I also have some stories to tell.  And I know for a fact that these are true.  Let the investigations begin with the UAW, and the leaders of the local unions!

1. Every time a new contract is signed, union leaders get BIG bonuses.  They also give a bonus to all the employees!

2. I also have a brother-in-law who RETIRED at the age of 49 with his FULL PAY until Social Security kicks in.  Compliments of GM.  He had his 30 years in.

3. The Union has 1 billion (that's right folks, you read right) with a capital B, dollars in their strike fund!

4. If it's any consolation to you people down in Florida, and the union does have to re-negotiate their contract, the first thing they plan to do is throw the retirees under the bus.

5. One LOCAL union leader built a 1.5 million dollar house on all his bribes.

This is where the Feds should start investigating!

 

 

 

Wow!  A pundit that tells

Wow!  A pundit that tells the truth on the "all liberal all the time channel" NB is right on it!

So what?

We need conservative news media telling the conservative view point. 

Why?  Because this isn't working . . .

We know more of the machinations of liberals then we know of conservatives.  For example, who knew anything about Sara Palin until just a few months ago?  Know anything about a guy name Jindle?   Who are the conservative lights?  Where do we go to find out about them?  What are conservatives saying about the great issues of the day?  

Without knowing the above, we are bound to have the drive by media pick our candidates, conservatives staying away from the polling boths, and we lose another election.

Meanwhile, on the matter of the auto maker's bailout.  The republicans in the Senate held strong.  They are to be commended.  Write, e-mail, or call them.  They deserve your praise. Here is a way to do that:   http://www.senate.go....

Unfortunately, President Bush will likely cave.  And that lemonade - it is going to get really expensive - for taxpayers.    

 

 

Wow!  A pundit that tells

Wow!  A pundit that tells the truth on the "all liberal all the time channel" NB is right on it! - What we ned to do is cultivate teh lone piece of good grass that popped up among teh weeds.  Soon there will be more grass sprouting and if we are diligent in cultivation thegood grass will overtake teh weeds.

The people watchibng the weeds dont know anything but weeds.  But, if the grass starts to have a voice as powerful as teh weeds then more may understand teh difference between a weed and a good blade of grass.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

 There will be a bailout.

 There will be a bailout. Get ready for it. Even if Bush doesn't do something without Congress, and it's looking like he will, it will happen in January when Obama and the new Congress take over. And then, in March, they'll be back for more, and they'll get it. Then, a few months later, they'll be back for more, and they'll get it. Then, after taking billions in tax dollars, they'll file for bankruptcy anyway, or close up shop, never to repay the billions they were given.

 

"Libs never let you down. You don't have to talk to one very long before the stupid comes out."

Am Listening to Rush now

Rush is doing a fine job Mr. Powell of explaining this mess. Resist the bailout Mr. President.

"Resist the bailout Mr. President."

what? he is threatening to use the 700 bil to bail them out if the repubs. don't cave and approve the auto bailout.

 

Expect Morici to receive his

Expect Morici to receive his walking papers from U. Maryland sometime soon. It's a highly liberal school in a liberal county, so any conservative opinion, albeit realistic and well grounded, is not welcome in these parts.

I think that the unions

I think that the unions pricing themselves out of the market is definitely a factor. But I'd not call it "selfishness" so much as stupidity. 

Sigh

I love how the "concessions" the auto-unions have made is to cut the salary of new workers in half. First off, that makes it so they themselves don't lose anything. The downside? It will have the same effect as it did on the NYPD. Facing budget crisis, the NYPD union was forced to make concessions, and they did it by cutting starting salary. Now, the NYPD is scraping the bottom of the barrel to get new cops, since all the good ones, or even vets at the NYPD, leave for the surrounding counties, where pay is much more even. Heck, NYPD forces the cadets/officers to buy their own uniforms and equipment. It's pretty unbelievable. 

Auto industry labour benchmarks

It seems to me to be too simplistic to use hourly wage rates as a benchmark of labour force effectiveness.  Two other metrics must be used.  (1) What is the ratio of hourly wage rates to value added per labour hour, or alternatively what is the value added per labour  hour for each dollar of hourly labour input.  However, that is not sufficient.  We also need to control for technology.  A crude measure is how much fixed assets per worker applies in the three major auto companies.  The results of this analysis might yield a completely different perspective when we compare them with them to foreign rivals.  I have not done this analysis, but I suspect that the strategic problem lies in the product/market strategies of Detroit rather than in the capital/labour production structure.

I have not done this

I have not done this analysis, but I suspect that the strategic problem lies in the product/market strategies of Detroit rather than in the capital/labour production structure.

I don't think they're mutually exclusive.  When a company weighs itself down with disproportionate labor costs it puts itself under increased pressure to generate revenues.  SUVs effectively papered over the cracks because they had the unique combination of being high demand automobiles with high profit margins.  This gave management the false sense of security that it could sustain the prohibitive labor costs through high volume sales of SUVs and light trucks.  Management and labor did not account for the fact that increased worldwide demand for oil would combine with eco-Marxist environmental policy of artificially shortening oil supply to blow the price of gasoline sky-high...softening demand for SUVs (the cash cow of Detroit's Big 3). 

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

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