The biggest news out of last night's GOP debate could be the hit taken by John McCain's reputation for straight talk.
For whatever reason, McCain chose to deny the undeniable: that on more than one occasion he has admitted not understanding the economy as well as he should. When the debate ended it took MSNBC no time to document the record. And a bit later, in the post-debate coffee klatsch, Chris Matthews and Howard Fineman unloaded on the Arizona senator for his fudging.
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CHRIS MATTHEWS: Now let's get a check on the truthfulness of what the candidates had to say here tonight. We turn to Hardball's David Shuster and his Truth Squad; David.
DAVID SHUSTER: Well Chris, let's start with that point Rachel Maddow was making about John McCain. John McCain was asked a question that included a quote of McCain talking about economics, and McCain denied the quote. Watch.
Cut to clip from debate.
TIM RUSSERT: Senator McCain, you have said repeatedly, quote, I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues; I still need to be educated. Is it a problem for your campaign that the economy is now the most important issue, one that my your own acknowledgement you're not well-versed on?
JOHN MCCAIN: Actually, I don't know where you got that quote from.
Unfortunately for McCain, Shuster did know and told Matthews and the world.
SHUSTER: Well, actually NBC News got that quote from last month. John McCain was heard saying on December 17th in the Boston Globe and Time magazine: "the issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book." And you heard Rachel Maddow refer to 2005, John McCain said something very similar to the Wall Street Journal in 2005 [NB: He told the WSJ's Stephen Moore: "I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."]
A bit later, Matthews and Newsweek's Howard Fineman pummelled McCain for his misrepresentation.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Howard, the Straight Talk Express: did it stall tonight? Was it derailed by his denial of a quote that's on the record?
HOWARD FINEMAN: I think he straight-talked himself right over that Bridge to Nowhere that he kept talking about. You can't pretend that you didn't say something that you said. You just can't. You can't wish it away, and it's an easy point for his rivals to attack.
Everybody was really nice on the stage tonight, pretty much, you know, very calm because they knew they were introducing themselves to the people. But the emails are burning up on that and several other things that McCain said, including what he said about tax cuts, and his support or lack of support for the president's tax cuts.
MATTHEWS: Well this is just the sort of thing that the Clinton organization is very good at slicing and dicing. If they get ahold of a quote like this in a general election, they'll say in the middle of an economic turmoil, David, this guy admits he's hapless.
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FINEMAN: His answer on taxes is completely illogical. He said he voted against the Bush tax cuts because he was concerned about runaway spending. In the meantime, we've had seven years of runaway spending, and now he's for making the tax cuts permanent. That's just completely illogical! It makes no sense, and it's clear that he's doing it for political reasons, or it seems that way to too many people. And for the Straight Talk guy, that's not a good position to have.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.





CHRIS MATTHEWS: Howard, the Straight Talk Express: did it stall tonight? Was it derailed by his denial of a quote that's on the record?















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McCain is a one trick pony
January 25, 2008 - 09:59 ET by Dee BunkThe military is the only thing he has a commanding knowledge of. He still hasn't realized the damage he's done with Campaign Finance. If he does win the nomination he may realize how much power he has handed over to the media and Hollywood.
Straight talk is kind of crooked when you don't know what you are talking about and McCain doesn't know very much.
I'll still vote for him over Obama or Clinton any day because they don't even have one good trick and they will also appoint more leftist judges.
McCain
January 25, 2008 - 10:40 ET by Chris NormanWell, he always was a "rebel". Now he's stuck, rebelling against his record...
Let's see
January 25, 2008 - 10:47 ET by okiehawk44The greatest country on earth will be led by either Ma & Pa Clinton or a RINO? Heck of a choice!
More "Straight Talk" From McCain
January 25, 2008 - 11:27 ET by PopularTech"I believe my party has gone astray. I think the Democratic Party
is a fine party, and I have no problems with it, in their views and
their philosophy." - John McCain
"But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would
not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of
women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations." - John McCain
"No drilling in ANWR, nor in the Everglades, nor off the coast of
Florida... To think that drilling in ANWR is the solution to our
incredible energy needs is frankly, is not keeping in the reality of
what's there, and what it would take to get it out" - John McCain
"I always have a glass of ethanol before breakfast every morning" - John McCain
"I think we can set up a program where amnesty is extended to a certain number of people, Amnesty has to be an important part..." - John McCain, 2003
"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I
do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be
educated." - John McCain
Lets here is for McCain telling it like he sees it! I am still waiting for my $50 an hour lettuce picking job...
McCain: "Americans Will Not Pick Lettuce for $50 an Hour" (AFL-CIO)
The Anti "Man-Made" Global Warming Resource
PT, you left out another McCain quote....
January 25, 2008 - 11:53 ET by R D Helm"I do not [support the FairTax], and I think we
should look very carefully at it. And I think we should look very
carefully at some of the provisions, which according to The Wall Street
Journal would increase an individual's tax rate up into the 30s."
I bet his real opposition to the Fair Tax is that his precious illegal aliens will no-longer be able to avoid paying federal taxes under this plan.
Or, maybe he thinks having the IRS around, snooping deep in our personal finances every year, is a good thing for this country.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. -J.W. von Goethe
→ Good point Helm
January 25, 2008 - 11:59 ET by Cool ArrowGive me a 30% consumption tax, and I'll smile all the way to the bank.
A tax free day in May is closer to 40%.
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Casper McAnus
January 25, 2008 - 11:31 ET by Cool ArrowCasper the friendly ghost fell flat on his butt yesterday.
Didn't know for sure at the time, but my money was on Russert being correct on his quote.
Romney had all their butts whimpering early on anyway.
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MSNBC - Mathews/ Scarborough/ Mitchell exchange
January 25, 2008 - 11:44 ET by Dee BunkMSNBC - Mathews/ Scarborough/ Mitchell exchange was the most telling and interesting in my opinion. Did anyone notice how Scarborough was dressed - could it have been any worse? Either there is something wrong with my picture or he has no fashion sense.
But seriously, it was so ironic and funny that Scarborough called Mitchell on her praise of how well McCain did during the debate. I was really shocked that he did that seeing as he is a RINO himself. I give him credit for that though. He was right on the mark.
slippery shuster & truth
January 25, 2008 - 15:01 ET by eddie bThe fact that Slippery is charge of discerning whose telling the truth is priceless in itself. The guy wouldn't know the truth if it whacked him in his smug, teeth-grinding mug. Really, this whole gaggle of Republican bashing buffoons are more a script for the Comedy Channel than MSDNC. What a DISGRACE!!