UPDATE: View video here via HotAir.
I tuned in to watch "Hardball," and the Miller Beer catfight commercial broke out, right down to the cleavage . . .
There was an epic dust-up on this afternoon's show between feminist Naomi Wolf and conservative radio talk show host Melanie Morgan.
At the risk of burying the lead a bit, I can't resist observing that Naomi Wolf might just be the most passively aggressive woman in America. She has an amazing, infuriating, ability to keep a smile plastered on her face while saying the nastiest of things. It took her no more than a few seconds to get into it with guest host Mike Barnicle on this evening's Hardball. Barnicle invited Wolf to comment on the WaPo story about Hillary showing cleavage on the floor of the Senate, introducing her as a Democratic consultant and former advisor to Al Gore who had advised him to wear earth tones. But before responding, Naomi had some correctin' to do.
NAOMI WOLF: Mike, let me just stop you right there. You basically have not done your homework, no offense [right]. First of all, I'm not a Democratic consultant, I'm a writer. Second of all, I was advising Gore 2000 on women's issues that I've been talking about for 15 years . . . so you've just been, the Republican National Committee came up with a bunch of urban legends, and I'm afraid they pulled the wool over your eyes.Pretty aggressive. Yet Wolf managed to maintain a brilliant, nay, beatific smile throughout. But when it came to aggression, Wolf was just clearing her throat.
WOLF: This administration uses very nasty, dark, tactics like smearing critics and dissenters.Wolf then took the attack to her fellow guest, Melanie Morgan.
WOLF: And Melanie, I'd like to confront you. You've done this too. You attacked Bill Keller [of the New York Times] when he published the Swift banking articles [the terrorist banking data surveillance program]. You essentially accused him of treason.Morgan was unapologetic.
MORGAN: Yes, Naomi, I did. It was right here on Hardball in fact where I said that anybody who publishes classified data in a time of war in a highly-successful program, such as the Swift program, they should be tried for treason. If they were found guilty of treason I would have no problem with them being executed. That's my exact quote . . .And I believe Senator Hillary Clinton is engaging in very dangerous and very, very unfortunate choice of words here. She has creeped constantly leftwards and it is hurting our military and . . . what she is driving towards is a premature evacuation of the battlefield, leaving Iraq in disarray and the American troops as losers. That is wrong.Wolf then upped the vitriol ante.
WOLF: Melanie, if I could get a word edge-wise, the American people have to know, no disrespect, actually, a lot of disrespect, you're playing a very dangerous game because when in American history leaders start to say critical speech is treason, critical speech is disloyal or unpatriotic, I mean that's what they did in the McCarthy era.Morgan is no shrinking violet.
MORGAN: It is unpatriotic. We have real men and women who are in a blistering sandbox in Iraq right now facing 130 degree temperatures and their lives and limbs are being shot off, and for you and anybody else to say it is patriotic to backstab their mission is just flat wrong. And there is a lot of disrespect intended there to you too.A bit later . . .
WOLF: I think it's very dangerous and un-American to resurrect this very dark history of smearing people who are asking hard questions.With that, Wolf had given her rival a huge opening, and Morgan wasted no time in blasting through it.
MORGAN: Oh, that's interesting, because Senator Clinton is one of the very finest operators of the smear machine. She and her husband Bill during all the impeachment hearings and the 15 women who made allegations against him. They were the ones who were smeared. Please don't turn that on me.The battle recommenced after a commercial break. Morgan repeated her support for the death penalty for those convicted of treason.
WOLF: In America, we do not execute people for their opinions, and that's the way the Founders set it up, and honestly Melanie you should go read the Constitution.
MORGAN: It's not "an opinion" when you publish top-secret information in your newspaper. That is endangering the lives of men and women on the battlefield in a time of war, and Naomi, you should know that.
WOLF: I certainly do know that, and I want you to really think long and hard about what kind of America youwant to see where people are afraid to speak and call the government to account because there will be calls for the death penalty.
MORGAN: And I don't want to be lectured to by you, Naomi, because we have men and women right now in battle, and you should be appreciative and grateful and do everything you can to support that.
By the way, note Wolf's decolletage. Was that a show of cleavage solidarity with Hillary, or, to the contrary, some not-so-subtle two-upmanship?
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Naomi Wolf Smiling At ..........
July 20, 2007 - 23:49 ET by Lame CherryPsychologically, people might ask why is it a woman would smile and show great delight in fighting which is inflicting domination on another person by force.
To keep the Freudian suspense at nil as this is about teaching, the reason is Naomi Wolf has been hurt and is hurting in her life. Her thrill or amusement is transferring that repression she suffered in weakness on others. What you were viewing was the simple bully.
You can find them on blogs constantly and usually on Democratic liberal issues. These are hurt souls who go to bed at night only content if they have enjoined others into their misery. Think of it as misery loves company, but she wants to the Dom not giving pleasure by sadistically admininstering pain on her conquests. One finds this in the extreme in serial murderers who take great pleasure in reliving their attacks.
Naomi Wolf doesn't need devo as she is playing this over and over in her head along with her other attacks. One could call her a writer and she would correct the talking head that she considers herself not a writer, but an author of ideas........she just in street slang gets her rocks off poking everyone with a stick. She is immune to the attacks as she is numb to them in self administered sense deadening to hide the original pain which drives her to do this.
All that matters to Naomi Wolf is drawing blood on someone's soul and it doesn't matter how much she is mauled because she will always look back and say, "Didn't I really inflict on that person".
Cleavage isn't so sexy nor is the woman when one starts seeing what is making this person tick. She is quite base and uninteresting. Sort of like a circus act of barking dogs.
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Great job, Melanie.
July 21, 2007 - 00:25 ET by dahliatraversGreat job, Melanie. Especially pointing out the King and Queen of Smear.
Mark
July 21, 2007 - 00:35 ET by Noel SheppardMark,
Spectacular piece. I mean your writing, of course. :-)
Honestly, great stuff. One of your best. ns
Thanks, Noel. I only wish I
July 21, 2007 - 06:04 ET by Mark FinkelsteinThanks, Noel. I only wish I could link to the video. My computer that contains the hardware for it is currently kaput.
"some not-so-subtle
July 21, 2007 - 06:15 ET by sarcasmo"some not-so-subtle two-upmanship?" brought a smile to my face, but it might have been even funnier (and definitely more "politically-correct"!) if you'd called it "two-upwomanship"! :)
JMR
Thanks, Sarc. I actually
July 21, 2007 - 06:53 ET by Mark FinkelsteinThanks, Sarc. I actually had considered going with "twoupswomanship" but it sounded a bit clunky to me.
Twoupswomanship?
July 21, 2007 - 11:15 ET by ThisnThatTwoupswomanship is still not PC enough. It still includes the word "Man". This needs to be changed to "Person", but this still isn't correct because that includes the word "Son". Need to change that to "Child". So, the correct word now becomes:
Twoupswoperchildship.
Please use that in all future correspondence. Rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it?
How about
July 21, 2007 - 11:29 ET by BlondeHow about "twoupchickship"?
Or in this case, "twoupchick(en)ship"?
Cleavage, Mark?
July 21, 2007 - 01:11 ET by Dave RI tuned into an episode of Hardball, and the Miller Beer catfight commercial broke out, right down to the cleavage . . .
Great line, as well as a terrific article.
Thanks.
Help Fred defeat everybody.
I would prefer that Wolfe
July 21, 2007 - 01:42 ET by gueinI would prefer that Wolfe show "cleavage solidarity" with Hillary...it certainly draws my attention away from what she is saying. That's a good thing.
Naomi: “In America, we do
July 21, 2007 - 03:37 ET by USA4freedomNaomi:
“In America, we
do not execute people for their opinions, and that's the way the Founders set it up, and honestly Melanie you should
go read the Constitution.”
No one in the NYT’s has been
executed.. (what a shame) I would bet that some have died because of them
though.
Naomi
you brilliant thinking “writer” why don’t you try.. to read the constitution.
We are at war and the NYT gave aid and comfort to our enemies in a time of war..
that IS the description of treason..
Our constitution:
Section 3. Treason
against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or
in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of
treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on
confession in open court.
The
Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no
attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except
during the life of the person attainted.
I find it
sooooo amazing that every one from Michel Moore to every idiot in Hollywood claims
that they will die for speaking out while we are at war and then I hear them
say the same thing a year or two after they said they were going to move from
this “Nazi” state.
So Naomi
give me a list of the people that have been silenced.
It’s the S.O.S.
from the S.O.A$$ holes.
Better
stick to earth tones.. idiot.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
PS..good job Melanie
July 21, 2007 - 03:38 ET by USA4freedomPS..good job Melanie Morgan
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
Don't you just love it how
July 21, 2007 - 06:01 ET by motherbeltDon't you just love it how day and night we are treated to liberals on TV broadcasting to the entire world how they are being "silenced"????? LMAO!
Oh, that's interesting,
July 21, 2007 - 06:13 ET by motherbeltOh, that's interesting, because Senator Clinton is one of the very
finest operators of the smear machine. She and her husband Bill during
all the impeachment hearings and the 15 women who made allegations
against him. They were the ones who were smeared. Please don't turn that on me. -Melanie Morgan
Oooh, smackdown!! BTW did they ever talk about Hillary's cleavage??? LOL
Oooh, smackdown!! Yeah,
July 21, 2007 - 07:22 ET by dahliatraversOooh, smackdown!!
Yeah, loved that. Melanie said it in response to nothing, though, Motherbelt; Naomi Wolf and other liberals have been "silenced".
Melanie Spanks, Skank Tanks
July 21, 2007 - 08:05 ET by doctorfixitGreat, wonderful article. I love it when people stand up to the democrat slime-buckets. Of course we question their patriotism - they're traitors, and not just about Iraq. Look at open borders. Look at creeping international law replacing our Constitution. Look at destroying all private property rights by any means available, including inventing an entire new field of pseudo-scientific propaganda. We need more heroes like Melanie calling out these crack-sniffers and dismantling their patented smear tactics. Melanie is awesome.
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July 21, 2007 - 08:13 ET by allanfNaomi Wolf is a person whose misandry is legendary. She is a very angry person. For those of you who may not have caught her piece, you may want to review her work Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
The left despises Ann Coulter. Yet, Wolf is far less clever, much angrier and venal and has no satirical flair. She is a person who should not be taken seriously. Yet she is the darling of left wing intellectuals.
leftist word-salad
July 21, 2007 - 10:02 ET by bulbasaurWOLF: "You basically have not done your homework, no offense [right]. First of all, I'm not a Democratic consultant, I'm a writer. Second of all, I was advising Gore 2000 on women's issues that I've been talking about for 15 years."
This is a good case study of a common leftist tactic.
"see, I'm not a democratic consultant, I am an adviser to a former democrat vice-president, the distinction is important!"
This tactic of baseless quibbling over terms doesn't serve an intellectual purpose, it's purpose is to make the audience's eyes glaze and frame the opponent as a liar.
You can say a democrat favors socialized medicine, and they'll get in a big hissy fit and demand a correction: "I'm not for socialized medicine, that's another republican smear, I am for universal, accessible access to health care that can never be taken away. The distinction is important!"
"I'm not against the 2nd amendment, I just want to get guns out of our society."
Don't you wish that leftists would just once admit who and what they are?
This is why Ann Coulter is so hated by lefties, she doesn't hide what she thinks behind faux nuance, she does the opposite. Someone could say: "Ann, you said that John Kerry is arrogant." And she'll insist: "Actually, I said he is a pompous blowhard who has no business in politics, but you got the gist of it."
Spot on, bulb.
July 21, 2007 - 11:04 ET by dervishSpot on, bulb.
WOLF: ...you're playing
July 21, 2007 - 13:38 ET by HypocriteHaterVerbal Proxy War
July 21, 2007 - 14:54 ET byTrue, but they don't have to. They have plenty of followers and stand-ins to do it for them, people that they have not and will not lift a finger to dinstance themselves from, even when given oppurtunities. It's very effective, have your proxies play attack dog why you maintain the illusion of integrity. I must say, brilliant.
Yeah, sort of makes you long
July 21, 2007 - 18:15 ET by dervishYeah, sort of makes you long for the Clinton days when the attack dogs were all paid White House employees, eh? At least you knew who was who.
The Fact Remains
July 21, 2007 - 19:06 ET by acumenNever-the-less SPQR the fact remains NOBODY in the Bush Administration engages in labeling critical speech as treasonous. Which removes the 'illusion' point from your "illusion of intergrity" argument, doesn't it? Or are you now blaming the opinions of others on Bush too?
Mark F. I am so tickled you
July 21, 2007 - 16:11 ET by bigtimerMark F. I am so tickled you posted about this....
I watched this while it was going on yesterday afternoon here...I almost commented on open thread while in progress...but decided against it for various reasons.
Nevertheless, Melanie tore right through the phoniness of Naomi, the gal with an endless smile that is enough to make a fool of herself because nobody in their right mind would keep smiling after what words were said to her by Melanie.
It was the best leftist vs. conservative I have ever seen I think.
I do want to throw in the leftist insinuations by Barnicle when it came to Melanie and the comments he made about her stating that anyone who leaks classified info such as Keller should be executed for treason....he just couldn't help his leftist empty-headed self from time to time, but he didn't get much in edgewise.
Melanie Morgan is a true patriot and what I was going to post is she is one of my heroines, I heard her awhile back getting kicked off of some PBS or NPR program...simply for speaking the TRUTH...adn not backing down.
Something the looney leftists with an agenda do not want to hear, something the conservatives ought to take a lesson from if they want to get anywhere...they will gain some respect, admiration and VOTES...if they did.
I loved the part Morgan said about Hillary/Bill and the 15 women ect...
Melanie ripped Naomi a new arse...the only reason Naomi kept that shite eatin' grin on her face the whole time is she most likely had shite her pants and didn't dare change expressions until she could make her exit....
I laughed my rear off at the silly little plastic fool...it was a delicious cat-fight...the only one who got scratched and deeply was Naomi....and Hillary.
By the way what Hillary Clinton is doing now with this Edelman/Pentagon situation is despicable, but that goes hand in hand with the deplorable witch.
She has cleavage, though,
July 21, 2007 - 21:14 ET by dahliatraversShe has cleavage, though, BT, so it's not a problem.
Dahlia
July 21, 2007 - 21:16 ET by botgso do plumbers
lol
July 21, 2007 - 22:31 ET by dahliatraverslol
"Shut up," they explained.
July 21, 2007 - 21:19 ET by nkviking75No disrespect, Ms. Wolf, but cries of "McCarthyism" from the left are libspeak for, "Shut up, conservatives." It's a very dark tactic from your side, and it's a dangerous game. It's your side that is trying to enact legislation to silence the right's most influential voices on talk radio via the so-called "Fairness Doctrine". You may as well learn that conservatives have a right to be heard, and we're not going away.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Great point.
July 21, 2007 - 23:23 ET by Scout Finch"It's your side that is trying to enact legislation to silence the right's most influential voices on talk radio via the so-called "Fairness Doctrine". Right on!
And Bush = Hitler. Or Bush = McCarthyism. Or Bush = Whatever we twist and subvert the meaning of...........
Hillary Clinton?
July 22, 2007 - 00:21 ET by ferrarimanf355Hillary Clinton? CLEVAGE???
As John Stewart once elequoently said about Hillary, "That look... is where boners go to die."
Hell, I'm a liberal, and I liked Bill Clinton back in the day, but I think Hillary's got too much baggage to be electable, and I'm rooting hard for Obama.
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...
If Hillary's the answer
July 22, 2007 - 00:29 ET by botgit must be a really stupid question
ferrari... We have been
July 22, 2007 - 00:31 ET by bigtimerferrari...
We have been here about the same amount of time....You have finally made me laugh out loud with your second line there about Hillary from Stewert.
Hilarious!
True too.... I would think anyway.
Thanks....
What can I say? I think
July 22, 2007 - 22:30 ET by ferrarimanf355What can I say? I think Bill Clinton was a great president, but Hillary scares me. I don't think she's electable.
Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...