CBS ‘Early Show’: Veteran Suicide Rates ‘Shockingly High’

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Tuesday’s CBS "Early Show" featured a segment on a recent Veteran’s Affairs report that outlined "an alarming suicide rate among veterans," according to co-host Julie Chen. Reporter Armen Keteyian then previewed an upcoming "Evening News" segment on the findings and shared the stories of particular veterans who served in Iraq:

Staff Sergeant Justin Reyes spent a violent year serving in Iraq...Medical records show Justin suffered severe psychological trauma after witnessing "multiple dead" and having to "sort through badly mutilated bodies." Earlier this year, one month after separating from the Army, Justin hanged himself with a cord in his apartment, at just 26...families recently sat down to talk about losing loved ones, all veterans of Iraq, to suicide...Mia Sagahon's boyfriend, Walter, shot himself at age 27 about a year and a half after he came back from Iraq.

Keteyian got a response from Democratic Senator, Patty Murray (D-Wash.) on the issue: "That's a lot of young men and women who've gone to fight for us, who've come home and found themselves that lost."

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Toward the end of the segment, Chen explained that "the Department of Veterans Affairs says that approximately this year 5,000 veterans will commit suicide, largely because of mental health issues...This sounds shockingly high. That's like 100 a week." Based upon the preceding segment, one would assume that high number referred to Iraq veterans, however, according to a May 10 Associated Press article, actually featured on cbsnews.com, the report said, "about 1,000 veterans who receive VA care commit suicide every year and as many as 5,000 a year among all living veterans." So Chen took the absolute maximum estimate as fact and did not clarify that it applied to all veterans.

While Chen never specified the 5,000 figure to Iraq, the segment clearly identified Iraq as a leading cause for the deaths. In reality, according to an October 31 Associated Press article, "A total of 147 troops have killed themselves in Iraq and Afghanistan since the wars began...Add the number of returning veterans and the finding is that at least 430 of the 1.5 million troops who have fought in the two wars have killed themselves over the past six years."

These deaths are certainly just as tragic, but according to the same Associated Press story, "Dr. Ira Katz, the VA's deputy chief patient care service officer for mental health, said there does not appear to be an epidemic of suicides among those who served in Iraq and Afghanistan who left the military." Compare that quote of Dr. Katz with this one by Keteyian during the "Early Show" segment: "And actually, I interviewed the person that did it, Dr. Ira Katz, who's the head of mental health for the V.A., and he described it as a back of the envelope estimate. And I can tell you Julie, our numbers are much higher than that overall." Which one is it? Clearly CBS was going for a much more alarmist story.

Here is the full transcript of the segment:

JULIE CHEN: In our Health Watch this morning, for some of America's 25 million veterans, their biggest fight isn't on the battlefield, but here at home. CBS News Investigative Correspondent Armen Keteyian with the story of an alarming suicide rate among veterans.

CARLOS REYES: His exact words is, your son has died.

KETEYIAN: Staff Sergeant Justin Reyes spent a violent year serving in Iraq. Gene Willis and Carlos Reyes are his parents.

GENE WILLIS: The war didn't end for him when he came home.

KETEYIAN: Medical records show Justin suffered severe psychological trauma after witnessing multiple dead and having to sort through badly mutilated bodies. Earlier this year, one month after separating from the Army, Justin hanged himself with a cord in his apartment, at just 26.

WILLIS: I think he was being tormented and tortured by his experiences.

KETEYIAN: Gene Willis and members of four other families recently sat down to talk about losing loved ones, all veterans of Iraq, to suicide. Is there any sense that they were having problems at all?

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN (MOTHER OF VETERAN WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE): I said what's the matter, Tim, I said, don't you want to come home? And he said, 'I'm not sure.' He said, 'everything's changed.' He said 'I'm not the same person anymore.'

KETEYIAN: Mia Sagahon's boyfriend, Walter, shot himself at age 27 about a year and a half after he came back from Iraq.

MIA SAGAHON: I just didn't realize. I didn't think he was thinking about killing himself. Otherwise, I would have taken him wherever he needed to go.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN B (MOTHER OF VETERAN WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE): You know, I think that's what the families are left with, the guilt of what we could have done or what we should have done.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN (FATHER OF VETERAN WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE): Guilt and anger.

KETEYIAN: No one had ever counted just how many suicides there are nationwide among those who have served in the military until now. A five-month CBS News investigation, based upon a detailed analysis of data obtained from death records in 2004 and 5 found this -- overall, veterans were more than twice as likely to commit suicide in 2005 as non vets. Part of a set of numbers that stunned everyone from Senator Patty Murray –

PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): That's a lot of young men and women who've gone to fight for us, who've come home and found themselves that lost.

KETEYIAN: To veteran rights advocate, Paul Sullivan.

PAUL SULLIVAN: This is pulling the fire alarm to say our veterans need help now.

CHEN: Joining me now, Armen Keteyian. Armen, this report out by the Department of Veterans Affairs says that approximately this year 5,000 veterans will commit suicide, largely because of mental health issues.

KETEYIAN: Yeah.

CHEN: This sounds shockingly high. That's like 100 a week.

KETEYIAN: It is. And actually, I interviewed the person that did it, Dr. Ira Katz, who's the head of mental health for the V.A., and he described it as a back of the envelope estimate. And I can tell you Julie, our numbers are much higher than that overall.

CHEN: And you'll have more tonight on the Evening News.

KETEYIAN: Much more tonight on the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric.

CHEN: Armen Keteyian, thanks so much.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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CBS nicely rapes the families of suicide dead soldiers

Nothing makes a family feel better than to have your grief vetted on national television all so you can have everyone know your child committed suicide.......so you can have your soul raped before a nation again.

Another great job by CBS and Mrs. Moonves.......way to go Les, you married one off the ole liberal heartless tree.

 

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Anything to push their

Anything to push their agenda.

more BS and bent numbers...

As a veteran I am so sick and tired of this baloney. They've tried this before (in this war). The actual numbers tell a wholly different story than the meme that military people are low lifes and retards and that when they come home they are all mental basket cases just waiting to gun down 500 innocent American children - CRAPOLA, in spades!

The actual suicide rates for combat veterans and those serving in the combat theater are LOWER than the rest of the military service. As Bill Murray said in Stripes, "That's a fact Jack!" There was actually some surprise by legitimate medical professionals when they looked at the numbers.

This story was already

This story was already debunked by several milblogs weeks ago when the stats first broke.

As wizardjr already said the combat numbers are a lower percent than overall service numbers and those numbers in turn are lower than the general population of the country.

Just screaming something out to gather attention without doing the responsible reporting of even trying to put any kind of context or comparison or sense of scale.

Simply willing to make it sound like an epidemic due to pressures of war but ignoring how plain old John or Jane Doe is more likely to do themselves in with no wheres near the pressures that our military has been put through.

 

 

Same ol' same ol' tactics

Same ol' same ol' tactics with the msm, and they think we are too blind to see it...

Excellent news coming from Iraq and our progress in the war so it is dig in the barrel for the so-called bad news.

Nothing new with the leftists and their little pea brains...who have had an outright agenda for us to lose hand in hand with the leftist politicians.

Pathetic all.

Right On

With all of this good news coming out of Iraq, big news media has to remain negative or else they might be accused by the Clintons for being Bush-bots.  Liberal reporters would rather get cancelled than have that happen.

Ever notice the scared look on the faces of journalists who ask tough questions of the Clintons?  You don't cross the Clintons or else your home might be invaded and your laptop stolen.  Oh wait, that only happens if you accuse the Bill of sexual assault.  Journalists who ask tough questions of Hillary are only accused of sexual harassment.  That is, if they can get their question in between the planted ones.

 

Suicide

Old, Retired and glad of it.

 Returning from honorable service in a war and seeing what the liberal democrats (communist) are doing to the country to further their political agenda,  and how the left wing liberal (democrat) news has degraded your service and discriminated against your family is more than some can stand. It has little, if anything, to do with what you did or saw in combat.  Same for us Vietnam Vet's.

Scrap... Excellent,

Scrap...

Excellent, excellent points all.

Thank you for the wise post and for your service, my gratitude is endless.

bigtimer, I agree

bigtimer,

I agree totally...good post Scrap.

A Bigger Scandal

I have a bigger scandal for these nit-wits. It is going unreported by the news media.

Approximately 1900 Veterans die each day.   Yes each day.

This is a higher death rate than we experienced in World War II. Why its a scandal I tell you. A scandal!!!

So where are you Julie (Mrs Les Moonves) Chen?

 

This is so blatantly

This is so blatantly disrespectful it is shameful. By these numbers we have more casualties here then in Iraq,,,every year!! Would it kill these folks to mention a positve without crushing it with lies? Somebody needs to put a foot up a few A$$e$$ over there.

 

"Always do right. This will gratify some people, and astonish the rest". Mark Twain

Notice too that CBS used a

Notice too that CBS used a statistic about the US suicide rate as a whole. Most, if not all, Iraq vets that committed suicide were likely men. Men have a much higher rate of suicide than women.

I looked at WHO and CDC numbers for US male suicides and they were both around 17 per 100,000 (referenced below). Compare that to CBS's number that 18.3 of 100,000 Iraq vets commit suicide and it doesn't really look like Iraq vets have much higher of a suicide rate than the general public. If the government is responsible to get these vets treatment, then what about police officers that have a even higher rate of suicides that vets?

And its not as if I'm not sympathetic as I know Mike Bowman, whose son, Timothy Bowman was featured in the CBS news story. His wife is the first unidentified female in the above transcript.

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