Please get it right. Democrats, particularly a prometheus like Obama don't flip-flop. They are nuanced.  If you  had only listened carefully to Obama'a original position you would have found he left enough room in there to do anything on Iraq.

Republican's like McCain flip-flop, especially when big oil gets a hold of them.

This is only the first quarter of the general election.

I believe we will not see the barrage of media from McCain Campaign and 527 groups until after the conventions. The general electorate don't start paying attention until after Labor Day. Then you will see all of Obama's words and deeds coming right back at him as well as what Hillary said about him.

While he thinks he can say or do anything he wants and get cover from his MSM, it will all eventually be countered with the truth.

So I am not at all concerned that he keeps drastcally changing his positions and tries to berate reporters that they are not listening, because that is ALWAYS the way  has felt - expecting that no one notices.

Been voting since 1959. I remember quite well the morning of the election that put peanut brain in the white house. His pastor said live on Good Morning America "We do not allow n------ or other rabble rousers in this church." That evening, no network showed the film clip and it was never seen again. They all qouted him as using the word negro and colored instead. Thank God we now have other sources for news than the self appointed censors of the msm.

Democratic debate, April 16, Philadelphia: (emphasis mine)

MR. GIBSON: And Senator Obama, your campaign manager, David Plouffe, said, when he is -- this is talking about you -- when he is elected president, we will be out of Iraq in 16 months at the most; there should be no confusion about that.

So you'd give the same rock-hard pledge, that no matter what the military commanders said, you would give the order: Bring them home.

SENATOR OBAMA: Because the commander in chief sets the mission, Charlie. That's not the role of the generals. And one of the things that's been interesting about the president's approach lately has been to say, well, I'm just taking cues from General Petraeus.

Well, the president sets the mission. The general and our troops carry out that mission. And unfortunately we have had a bad mission, set by our civilian leadership, which our military has performed brilliantly. But it is time for us to set a strategy that is going to make the American people safer.

Now, I will always listen to our commanders on the ground with respect to tactics. Once I've given them a new mission, that we are going to proceed deliberately in an orderly fashion out of Iraq and we are going to have our combat troops out, we will not have permanent bases there, once I've provided that mission, if they come to me and want to adjust tactics, then I will certainly take their recommendations into consideration; but ultimately the buck stops with me as the commander in chief.

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Let's be very clear. Obama's clear position is that all of the troops must be out in 16 months, unless it is a matter of safety for their removal. Given that we have a professional military, and giving them 16 months to do it, one assumes that troop safety will not be an issue.

By Obama's own words, he has no wiggle room on strategy. It does not matter if we're winning dramatically, or if the Iranians are at the gates of the oil fields. Obama gave no conditions on strategy. He said we will be out in 16 months, no matter if the strategic situation changes or not.

Now he's trying to slip in, without anyone noticing, the phrase "and Iraq is stable." Sorry -- that's why we were telling His Hopefulness to listen to the generals in the first place, but he told us he knew better. The stability of Iraq is strategy, not tactics. And to play this cute little game with words (Just words?!) is why everyone eventually turned on Bill Clinton.

Lord Obama, please don't tell us that it all depends on the what the meaning of 'strategy' is. We don't want to go through that crap again.

If he flips and claims that the strategic situation has changed, and therefore the troops can stay, it will mean that the conservatives were right all along, and that he wasn't as smart as he thought he was. That means his defense against inexperience ("I alone had the correct judgment about Iraq") is debunked. It means that he owes the administration an apology. It means that he has no credibility.

Let's not be so incindiary.  Wouldn't it be better if we said, for example;

"Obama goes both ways on Gay Marriage"

Let's be first in toning down the fiery rhetoric.

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