DailyKos: Osama Bin Laden Much Like Reagan

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DailyKos.com, the Left's most popular website and a key source of fund-raising for Democrats from coast to coast, says Osama bin Laden and Ronald Reagan have a lot in common:

So is Osama bin Laden truly "evil?" Most people who lost family members at the World Trade Center on 9/11/2001 would probably consider him to be evil. Was President Ronald Reagan evil? Most residents of Beirut who lost family members when the USS New Jersey rained 2,700 pound Mark 7 shells on residential neighborhoods in 1983 during the Lebanese Civil War probably considered Reagan to have been evil. Bottom line? Bin Laden is no more evil than other revolutionary leaders in other times or even than ordinary national leaders who propel their countries to war for "national honor," or to acquire the resources of others, or even to "do good."

To translate Kos-speak: Osama bin Laden isn't a terrorist, he's a freedom fighter. And Reagan wasn't a freedom fighter - he was a terrorist.

DailyKos' attempt to assert moral equivalence between a terrorist leader who masterminded the slaughter of thousands of innocents while aiding a regime that slaughtered women for showing an angle or wearing lipstick and a former American president whose tireless efforts lead to the freedom of millions from Soviet oppression is disgusting.

The writer of the Kos article then asserts that bin Laden's agenda is "congruent with the neoconservative agenda and the corporatist agenda" of the United States, based on something the writer thinks Osama said in his recent video message. But of course the writer's interpretation of the translation from Arabic could be off. But even it if isn't, to believe bin Laden's agenda really is "congruent with the neoconservative agenda and the corporatist agenda," one must first believe that bin Laden is telling the truth in his video message.

That's the problem with the entire DailyKos analysis of bin Laden's message: It accepts that the words coming out of bin Laden's mouth are truthful words rather than propaganda meant to mislead and misdirect.

DailyKos, it seems, wants to believe that bin Laden is a truthful freedom fighter battling terroristic America. In fact, the piece shows they've fallen for Osama's world view hook, line and sinker.

At the end of the piece the Kos writer asks, "Are we truly stupid?

The question answers itself.

Updated by Noel Sheppard at 1:16PM EST: Please also be advised that this blog was promoted to the front page by one of the moderators so that more people would read it -- "Promoted from the Diaries by Meteor Blades." Isn't that special?

—Bill Hobbs is author of Who Is Fred Thompson, a blog-centric look at the presidential candidate.


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I wonder...

...how much time Crocker and Petraeus are actually going to get to testify.  Right now Lantos is droning on about how bad Maliki is.

Hey Congresssman, how about shutting up and the letting the people on the ground say a few words?

Just keep 'em coming Kos

Just keep 'em coming Kos creeps.  We'll beat you with your own words.

I think they will beat

I think they will beat themselves with this kinda stuff!

Keep it comin!

And this is the man many liberals have chosen

as their ideological leader....for shame.

Saying both names in the same breath?

Ronald Regan - a terrorist?  Bin Laden - a hero, a freedom fighter?  Give me a break.  That website is a joke.  How can people (left liberals) take articles on that site seriously?  I wasn't in the WTC on 9/11, but I know based on all the evidence visable that Bin Laden is a terrorist - he wants to kill innocent civilians for his own cause. He's a murderer.  He's delusional. He's brainwashing more terrorists for more suicide missions.  Damn him!  Freedom fighter - my a$$.

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Take it easy!  We're not making a western here.
      ~ Uncle Junior
 
 (The Sopranos)

with this kind of dkos

with this kind of dkos commentary i just can't understand why the Dems are having so much trouble winning support:(?

Meteor Blades is an old

Meteor Blades is an old 1960's socialist radical who has voiced nothing but disdain for the country he grew up in and who has provided him with a living. His diaries are clearly intended to support the enemies of the United States. But to equate bin ladn with Ronald Reagan is ignorant but more importantly deplorable.

Daily KKKOS has alot in common with dog crap

They're both fecal matter.  They both give off noxious fumes and a foul odor.  Neither of them has any value even as a fertilizer.  They both need to be bagged and trashed.

All your heros are terrorists

Washington was a terrorist. Cornwallis was just trying to preserve order.

Patton, Bradley, Montgomery were terrorists. Hitler was just trying to provide a good life for Germany.

Chiang Kai-shek was a terrorist. Mao was only concerned for the peasants.

G. H. W. Bush was a terrorist. Hussein only wanted a good deal on beachfront property.

Thatcher was a terrorist. Pinochet just had a thing for sheep.

That Erich Honecker was a

That Erich Honecker was a swell guy too.  Honecker's soldiers killing people as they tried to escape East Germany were just being put out of their misery so they wouldn't be brainwashed by Western Powers.  He was probably only looking out for their well being by making sure they didn't escape. 

"The Wall will be standing in 50 and even in 100 years, if the reasons for it are not removed."  Erich Honecker 

9-11 reminder- This is chilling

This is chilling!

I wonder if Kevin Cosgrove would agree that Reagan is just like Bin Laden.

This shook me up

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EE9TLgCVLBM

MtM, that video has been on my favorite list for years, anger !

 Now that osama has mentioned the 19 kooks, does that mean the 911 deniers all go away now?

Entitlement over infrastructure every SINGLE time.

 

Upcountrywater: I didn't know that.

I didn't know it was there for years. I discovered it yesterday looking for the new Osama Bin Laden tape, thinking it had been released.

MtM, No worries, however youtube is becoming more and more

 PC .  So many videos i've commented on are gone, along with  the people who uploaded them. SUKZ

Entitlement over infrastructure every SINGLE time.

 

Mica

that is a a rough one

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Is Kos truly stupid?

Is Kos truly stupid? Surely, if they actually knew what was, they'd see none other than Bill Clinton as evil - per the definition of the leftists themselves.

- Clinton believes in killing.

....The "leader of the free world" [Clinton] waxing oh so eloquently: "'We're not inflicting pain on these fuckers,' Then, with his face reddening, his voice rising, and his fist pounding into his thigh, he leaned into Tony [Lake], as if it was his fault. 'I believe in killing people who try to hurt you.  And I can't believe we're being pushed around by these two-bit pricks.'" --George Stephanopoulos writing about the Somalia Crisis in "All Too Human,"  page 214. 

Kosovo - Former President Carter and Nelson Mandela said of Clinton's action:

-- Jimmy Carter - On Kosovo, New York Times, May 27, 1999 "[Our attack] has been counterproductive, and our destruction of civilian life has now become senseless and excessively brutal... The American-led force has expanded targets to inhabited areas and resorted to the use of anti-personnel cluster bombs. The result has been damage to hospitals, offices and residences of a half-dozen ambassadors, and the killing of innocent civilians... [Our] insistence on the use of cluster bombs, designed to kill or maim humans, is condemned almost universally and brings discredit to our nation."

Nelson Mandela..."I also condemn NATO [Clinton] for taking action outside of the United Nations and doing precisely what Milosevic is doing. Killing civilians, destroying the infrastructures of the country. Destroying bridges and all of the structures, which are important for the development of the country. I pointed out to President Boris Yeltsin that we must strongly condemn any country or group of countries that take action of this nature outside of the United Nations." President Nelson Mandela, at a press conference in Budapest on May 3, 1999

- Rwanda - Clinton was at best complacent. Many on the left argued that he knew, did nothing and prevented even the UN from acting. 800,000 died.

- DR Congo - The worst conflict in the world since WW ll. It began in 1996 as the Rwandan issues spilled across the border. A full blown civil war broke out in 1998 completley off the radar of the US media, wanting Clinton's "Never Again," promise to be protected, even in the face of a much larger evil, as 4 1/2 million were to die.

- Afgnanistan - Clinton sit on his hands when the Taliban took over, and commited gross atrocities and acts of genocide on a beaten old proud country. At least Reagan and Carter tried to help these people.

- Pakistan became a member of the nuclear club. 

- HIV/Aids in Africa. Has not the left wing always spotted Reagan as evil on this issue? But according to the left wing,  How many times is Bill Clinton going to apologize to Africa?, it was President Bill Clinton, whom which the knowledge and the popular support (and a little budget surplus) to act, who did next to nothing. It's president Bush who has stepped up to the plate on the issue, and many in the world did take note, with, of course, the exception of our MSM. 

Of course, there is much more.

At least President Bush answered the call of many liberal voices. In a 1998 Frontline (PBS) presentation on Bosnia's Karadzic, a featured column on the topic on genocide by Samatha Power's "Never Again - The world's most unfilled promise," she challenges the world, especially American Presidents, with:

But, as Pol Pot, Hussein, Karadzic and the Rwandan Interahamwe discovered, neither it [The Genocide Convention] nor the rhetorical commitments of the American leaders have translated into a willingness to halt the masterminds of genocide.

And then there was a President George W. Bush, who at envisioned an end to the genocidial maniac Saddam Huissen's regime (which cost the world some 2 million lives -before Bush), and sought to deliver the country back to the Iraqis - something that without a doubt, they deep deeply desire. It is indeed sad, that it has not gone better.

The silence is deafening.

mix and match 'til you get the "news" you want

It is so typical....

"USS New Jersey rained 2,700 pound Mark 7 shells on residential neighborhoods in 1983"

No such thing happened. The NJ shelled out of town and edge of town military emplacements. HOWEVER... in January of 1984 the towel heads blindly shelled residential areas of Achrafieh, wounding and killing many. KOS just echos the nonsense the Arab's have used for years to propagandize their own people so they would hate Americans (who came there to support the goverment and stop the killing - along with the French and Italians). And why not? He hates our military as much as the Arabs do - they are everything he is not, nor ever will be.

for full history, see http://www.liberty05.com/civilwar/civil3.html

chuck in st paul, USAF '62-'70

Guess the KozKidz would

Guess the KozKidz would agree that there is no difference between OBL and FDR. Or OBL and Bill Clinton. Right?

Good post

Good post Wizardjr! 

Spot on.

These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day

Osama like Reagan??

More like KOS has stepped into the shoes of Joeseph Goebbles.

Touché!!!

Touché!!!